CPU PROBLEM NEED HELP
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Ok, so recently I have noticed my computer is running real slow. When I opened up my task manjager, I found my cpu at 100% and then it dropped down to around 65-80%. I wasn't sure why it should be running this slow because all I had open were Utorrnet, and my McAfee program (which is open by default, and can only be closed by ending it's task). Before answering my question, I have alreay performed two full scans with McAfee and deleted what came up. I was wondering if anyone had any solutions to fixing this, I have listed a few specs and some info below. The main reason I am bringing this up is because my computer should not fail at running The Sims 2. Anyway, here is the info:
Computer:
Intel Celeron M CPU 520 @ 1.6 ghz
960mb RAM
ATI Raedon (can';t remember exact model) with 256mb Vram
Also, just as I opened My Computer, I just got this error saying somjetjhing about an unknown trojan, and I think I found a way to remove it, so we shall see. If you have ANY ideas, please tell me.
Computer:
Intel Celeron M CPU 520 @ 1.6 ghz
960mb RAM
ATI Raedon (can';t remember exact model) with 256mb Vram
Also, just as I opened My Computer, I just got this error saying somjetjhing about an unknown trojan, and I think I found a way to remove it, so we shall see. If you have ANY ideas, please tell me.
The task manager (if you use 2000/XP) should be able to say what program uses how much CPU under the Processes tab. If there is no CPU, use View->Select Columns and there should be a checkbox for CPU.
What's the exact name of the trojan?
EDIT: Oh I see unknown. Try to boot Windows up in Safe Mode then perform a full scan and delete whatever it finds. Also make sure to disable Restore XP to avoid getting those things again. Then after that reboot and enable Restore XP and see what happens.
The other option is try to disable Windows Automatic Update temporarily and see what that does. (This is all from when I was having trouble with the 100% CPU usage in Windows XP. The last option worked for me.)
EDIT: Oh I see unknown. Try to boot Windows up in Safe Mode then perform a full scan and delete whatever it finds. Also make sure to disable Restore XP to avoid getting those things again. Then after that reboot and enable Restore XP and see what happens.
The other option is try to disable Windows Automatic Update temporarily and see what that does. (This is all from when I was having trouble with the 100% CPU usage in Windows XP. The last option worked for me.)
Lol, yes, I know Celeron's are pretty bad
and I have auto updates off, I know about checking CPU in Taskmanager, and I'm using vista (lol, probably the problem right there)
I have removed a few things, and my method of removing that error message worked, but still my CPU idles between 50-70% when I just have my basic stuff open, along with taskmanager. Nothing even says it's using much CPU in my taskmanager, aside from system idle process (which is good to have a high amount of CPU in, that means it is free cpu.)
so, still, I am looking for a solution.
and I have auto updates off, I know about checking CPU in Taskmanager, and I'm using vista (lol, probably the problem right there)
I have removed a few things, and my method of removing that error message worked, but still my CPU idles between 50-70% when I just have my basic stuff open, along with taskmanager. Nothing even says it's using much CPU in my taskmanager, aside from system idle process (which is good to have a high amount of CPU in, that means it is free cpu.)
so, still, I am looking for a solution.
Your problem is that Vista is meant for newer, dual core PCs. You don't really have enough ram either. Stick to XP buddy.
Lol, the laptop came with vista basic, so I think it should run it... but anyways, I have posted an image of the problem
So first off, I would like to re-state that after removing one of the trojans on my computer, my cpu usage did drop down, and so it now jhangs around 45-85%. In this screenshot, I will illustrate the problem with 45-85%...

Notice the green arrow pointing to cpu usage? For anyone who doesn't know, the System Idle Process holds all the CPU not in use, and is subtracted from the CPU usage percentage at the bottom (red arrow) I have sorted all processes by CPU usage percent, and aside from the System Idle Process, there are only two tasks using CPU, both only using 3%, so how does that equal out to the 49% illustrated by the red arrow? this has brought me to the obvious conclusion of this being a virus, and so I am getting norton, since my mcafee won't find it. If you know any other good antivirus out there, please tell me.
So first off, I would like to re-state that after removing one of the trojans on my computer, my cpu usage did drop down, and so it now jhangs around 45-85%. In this screenshot, I will illustrate the problem with 45-85%...

Notice the green arrow pointing to cpu usage? For anyone who doesn't know, the System Idle Process holds all the CPU not in use, and is subtracted from the CPU usage percentage at the bottom (red arrow) I have sorted all processes by CPU usage percent, and aside from the System Idle Process, there are only two tasks using CPU, both only using 3%, so how does that equal out to the 49% illustrated by the red arrow? this has brought me to the obvious conclusion of this being a virus, and so I am getting norton, since my mcafee won't find it. If you know any other good antivirus out there, please tell me.
Really man, Vista and laptops do not mix unless you've spent a lot of money on a hi-spec machine. To be honest, with the specs you have listed you'd be lucky to get XP running at optimum.
Looking at your list of processes you seem to have a lot of needless crap installed. If it was me I would bite the bullet and format to XP.
Looking at your list of processes you seem to have a lot of needless crap installed. If it was me I would bite the bullet and format to XP.
Although I do somewhat want to format to XP, I would need to go find all my stuff, plus, I am worried that I Won't have the codecs my laptop needs in order to function properly...
Also, to further prove my point about this laptop anjd vista:
Recommended system requirements for vista are as follows:
* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
* 512 MB of system memory
* 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
* Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory
* DVD-ROM drive
* Audio Output
* Internet access (fees may apply)
Minimum are even less:
* 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
* 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
* Support for Super VGA graphics
* CD-ROM drive
My laptop meets and beats both lists of requiremenjts, so it should run fine.
Also, yes, I know this laptop came with a bunch of stuff on it that I really don't need, so formatting would be njice for that reason too, but all of my stuff :(
Also, to further prove my point about this laptop anjd vista:
Recommended system requirements for vista are as follows:
* 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor
* 512 MB of system memory
* 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
* Support for DirectX 9 graphics and 32 MB of graphics memory
* DVD-ROM drive
* Audio Output
* Internet access (fees may apply)
Minimum are even less:
* 800 MHz processor and 512 MB of system memory
* 20 GB hard drive with at least 15 GB of available space
* Support for Super VGA graphics
* CD-ROM drive
My laptop meets and beats both lists of requiremenjts, so it should run fine.
Also, yes, I know this laptop came with a bunch of stuff on it that I really don't need, so formatting would be njice for that reason too, but all of my stuff :(
Those may be the requirements they've stated but they're not realistic at all. If you're stubbornly sticking to your Vista guns then I reccommend you find the max RAM you can have in your laptop (Laptops normally have 2 slots for SODIMMs) and upgrade to 2 gigabytes so that your PC isn't constantly swapping to virtual memory and dying.
Just an FYI, I had this spec:
AMD 5000+ X2 @ 2.6 Ghz (Dual Core)
1 GB DDR2 PC 5400 RAM
Geforce 8800 GTS 512Mb
SATAII HD
All running Windows Vista Business on a 700W powered workstation.
STILL LAGGED from fresh install when I ran any games.
To rememdy this I got a matched pair of 2GB DDR2 6400 RAM (Faster) and it ran acceptably.
Now, in order to do my programming coursework I had to revert back to XP which starts up BEFORE the monitor comes on (I have a TFT).
It begs the question, what the hell are Microsoft doing!? For the gamer the only discernable advantage is Vista's DirectX10 capability which allows you to play next gen games. Considering you have a laptop (The next-gen capability of that is laughable) - XP, all the way.
Just an FYI, I had this spec:
AMD 5000+ X2 @ 2.6 Ghz (Dual Core)
1 GB DDR2 PC 5400 RAM
Geforce 8800 GTS 512Mb
SATAII HD
All running Windows Vista Business on a 700W powered workstation.
STILL LAGGED from fresh install when I ran any games.
To rememdy this I got a matched pair of 2GB DDR2 6400 RAM (Faster) and it ran acceptably.
Now, in order to do my programming coursework I had to revert back to XP which starts up BEFORE the monitor comes on (I have a TFT).
It begs the question, what the hell are Microsoft doing!? For the gamer the only discernable advantage is Vista's DirectX10 capability which allows you to play next gen games. Considering you have a laptop (The next-gen capability of that is laughable) - XP, all the way.
Ok, well, formatting is looking like a good idea, but there are two issues.
1. My dad. He claims that formatting is a bad idea with this laptop, because I will lose all of the codecs necessary for it to run. I personally believe that windows update, and the recovery CD that came with my laptop probably have those drivers and codecs, but I think he is still worried that I will mess up my nice laptop he got me for christmas, but we will see.
2. My laptop wasn't always running like this. I don't know when it happened, but it ujsed to run things quickly and smoothly, and it's cpu never used to say 100%, it just started eventually. I did get norton, and I have McAfee. I have done full blown scans with both (the norton one took about seven hours) and neither found anything. I have also tried a program called trojan remover, and nothing there either. So why did this happen now? Can having a fairly full hard drive make a difference? I have a 65.5 GB hard drive, and I only have 18.2 GB free, and I have been wondering the whole time if that could have something to do with it.
I hate technology right now
... well, not really, I just wish mine would work better.
1. My dad. He claims that formatting is a bad idea with this laptop, because I will lose all of the codecs necessary for it to run. I personally believe that windows update, and the recovery CD that came with my laptop probably have those drivers and codecs, but I think he is still worried that I will mess up my nice laptop he got me for christmas, but we will see.
2. My laptop wasn't always running like this. I don't know when it happened, but it ujsed to run things quickly and smoothly, and it's cpu never used to say 100%, it just started eventually. I did get norton, and I have McAfee. I have done full blown scans with both (the norton one took about seven hours) and neither found anything. I have also tried a program called trojan remover, and nothing there either. So why did this happen now? Can having a fairly full hard drive make a difference? I have a 65.5 GB hard drive, and I only have 18.2 GB free, and I have been wondering the whole time if that could have something to do with it.
I hate technology right now
... well, not really, I just wish mine would work better.
Unfortunately, I never personally had set a system restore point, and the most recent one that my computer auto set, was before I installed a driver (don't remember what) which was two days ago, and this problem has persisted for longer then that.
Also, I tried doing a disk clean up, and then a disk error-check, and I have also recently been trying to reduce used space on my hard drive. My computer seems to be idling between 47-75 now, which is slightly better than before. whether the things are related, I'm not sure. I will try freeing up more space (besides which, if the problem persists, I will probably be formatting anyways) and I will be seeing if that helps. I have been looking up my specific case on the internet for so many days now, and I just can't find anythinjg to help me. Also, Eddie, turns out my computer intelligence agent (also known as my computer smart friend at school) agrees with you, anjd said that downgrading to XP is probably a good idea, I am starting to tjhink so too.
Also, I tried doing a disk clean up, and then a disk error-check, and I have also recently been trying to reduce used space on my hard drive. My computer seems to be idling between 47-75 now, which is slightly better than before. whether the things are related, I'm not sure. I will try freeing up more space (besides which, if the problem persists, I will probably be formatting anyways) and I will be seeing if that helps. I have been looking up my specific case on the internet for so many days now, and I just can't find anythinjg to help me. Also, Eddie, turns out my computer intelligence agent (also known as my computer smart friend at school) agrees with you, anjd said that downgrading to XP is probably a good idea, I am starting to tjhink so too.
Just make sure you have all the drivers for your laptop downloaded, most importantly your wireless/network so you can reconnect and DL the new drivers. Hope it goes well :)
I really do not recommend going back to XP with a laptop that came with Vista. Most store-bought computers come with Vista-exclusive hardware installed and you will probably cripple most of your key components by reverting to XP because XP drivers will not exist for them. For example, when I reverted to XP on a desktop that I had purchased, my ethernet card, multi-function card reader, DVD drive, swappable drive, media card, and soundcard were all rendered useless because they were Vista-exclusive hardware. Your dad was right. If you have not reverted to XP, DON'T. In my case, because I have a desktop and I had spare cash, I replaced all the components with XP-compatible ones. On a laptop, you're screwed.
Also, these guys are full of crap and your computer should not lag running Vista. Vista is a hog, but any PC with a gig of RAM and a processor clocking over 1 Ghz (even a lame Celeron M) should be fine. You clearly have some kind of malware infecting your system, especially because this problem started recently.
Be honest: Have you been pirating software and/or looking at porn (I bet you have because you mentioned you have a torrent program)? I won't judge you for either because I've certainly done a fair bit of both, but if you have, I recommend you be much more careful in the future. Porn and piracy are almost sure bets to get bad crap installed on your PC. You have to be especially wary of key generators and cracks.
Anyway, here is my advice:
The easiest way to get rid of simple malware is:
1. Click on the "Run" prompt under the start menu.
2. Type in "msconfig"
3. Go to the "Startup" tab
4. Uncheck EVERYTHING. You should probably have done this anyway (it disables all programs from automatically starting up). You probably won't notice any difference in day-to-day operation of your computer sans some programs taking one or two seconds longer to startup.
5. Restart and see if you problem is fixed.
This sometimes doesn't work because some malware is more proficiently programmed and registers as a service and not as a program. If that is the case, follow these steps:
1. Repeat the steps to run msconfig
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Uncheck EVERYTHING THAT IS MANUFACTURED BY MICROSOFT CORPORATION.
4. Restart and see if your problem is fixed.
Note that this will disable some features that you probably want to use. If this occurs, go back to your services and enable anything that you can clearly identify and know that you want to use. The malware will probably be an obvious entry. There are more complicated and judicious rules for deciding which services to enable or disable, but I won't go into them here. Disabling extraneous services is key to getting any computer to run properly.
Sometimes malware will claim to be manfactured by Microsoft. If your problem still isn't fixed, go back through your services and uncheck anything, even Microsoft services, that appear suspicious in any way.
If none of this fixes your problem, you have a sophisticated trojan and will probably need to reformat.
As a footnote, I remember one time that an error in Quicktime had caused my computer to behave similarly. Do you have Quicktime installed? There's a chance that might be the root of your problem. If it is, the steps above will eventually fix your problem. The error in Quicktime has to do with a memory access bug or something like that in its automatic updates feature. Always turn off automatic updates for everything you install because that's pretty much the #1 source of computers getting bogged down over time.
Also, these guys are full of crap and your computer should not lag running Vista. Vista is a hog, but any PC with a gig of RAM and a processor clocking over 1 Ghz (even a lame Celeron M) should be fine. You clearly have some kind of malware infecting your system, especially because this problem started recently.
Be honest: Have you been pirating software and/or looking at porn (I bet you have because you mentioned you have a torrent program)? I won't judge you for either because I've certainly done a fair bit of both, but if you have, I recommend you be much more careful in the future. Porn and piracy are almost sure bets to get bad crap installed on your PC. You have to be especially wary of key generators and cracks.
Anyway, here is my advice:
The easiest way to get rid of simple malware is:
1. Click on the "Run" prompt under the start menu.
2. Type in "msconfig"
3. Go to the "Startup" tab
4. Uncheck EVERYTHING. You should probably have done this anyway (it disables all programs from automatically starting up). You probably won't notice any difference in day-to-day operation of your computer sans some programs taking one or two seconds longer to startup.
5. Restart and see if you problem is fixed.
This sometimes doesn't work because some malware is more proficiently programmed and registers as a service and not as a program. If that is the case, follow these steps:
1. Repeat the steps to run msconfig
2. Go to the "Services" tab
3. Uncheck EVERYTHING THAT IS MANUFACTURED BY MICROSOFT CORPORATION.
4. Restart and see if your problem is fixed.
Note that this will disable some features that you probably want to use. If this occurs, go back to your services and enable anything that you can clearly identify and know that you want to use. The malware will probably be an obvious entry. There are more complicated and judicious rules for deciding which services to enable or disable, but I won't go into them here. Disabling extraneous services is key to getting any computer to run properly.
Sometimes malware will claim to be manfactured by Microsoft. If your problem still isn't fixed, go back through your services and uncheck anything, even Microsoft services, that appear suspicious in any way.
If none of this fixes your problem, you have a sophisticated trojan and will probably need to reformat.
As a footnote, I remember one time that an error in Quicktime had caused my computer to behave similarly. Do you have Quicktime installed? There's a chance that might be the root of your problem. If it is, the steps above will eventually fix your problem. The error in Quicktime has to do with a memory access bug or something like that in its automatic updates feature. Always turn off automatic updates for everything you install because that's pretty much the #1 source of computers getting bogged down over time.
author=brandonabley link=topic=565.msg7630#msg7630 date=1200511036This is false, actually! I've used Vista on five different machines and XP is still far more responsive. Vista is just slower than XP. That doesn't make it unusable at all.
Also, these guys are full of crap and your computer should not lag running Vista. Vista is a hog, but any PC with a gig of RAM and a processor clocking over 1 Ghz (even a lame Celeron M) should be fine. You clearly have some kind of malware infecting your system, especially because this problem started recently.
author=WIP link=topic=565.msg7632#msg7632 date=1200512515
This is false, actually! I've used Vista on five different machines and XP is still far more responsive. Vista is just slower than XP. That doesn't make it unusable at all.
What I am complaining about is that the other posters were claiming that his computer is not powerful enough to run Vista Basic. That is patently untrue! Of course it's a sluggish piece of crap, but I think these guys were overestimating how much power it needs.
Oh okay. Carry on then.


















