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Can you still get jailed for missing civil court hearings, or does that apply to only criminal court?
i think you can but it depends what the offence is
usually they just decide on a judgement whether or not you're there(on if you owe them money/the crediters are out of order). then, if you still don't pay you'd be called into court again, and if you don't show up they can issue an arrest warrent which can send you to jail.
usually they just decide on a judgement whether or not you're there(on if you owe them money/the crediters are out of order). then, if you still don't pay you'd be called into court again, and if you don't show up they can issue an arrest warrent which can send you to jail.
Yeah I just discussed this with a friend and did some fact checking of my own. Sorry guys, this article is pretty much one sided, sensationalist full of shit! My bad, I really should have known a lot of this stuff.
However, if you still want to discuss the issues of debt, living beyond your means, credit cards, debt collectors, etc, feel free! I don't want this topic to be a waste.
However, if you still want to discuss the issues of debt, living beyond your means, credit cards, debt collectors, etc, feel free! I don't want this topic to be a waste.
HOW TO NOT GET INTO DEBT
A SELF-HELP GUIDE BY ME
STEP ONE: DO NOT SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE.
THE END
A SELF-HELP GUIDE BY ME
STEP ONE: DO NOT SPEND MONEY YOU DON'T HAVE.
THE END
While the article itself is pretty stupid, I do have to comment however that setting a court date over 250 dollars is pretty fucked!!!
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Easy for you to say, I assume you aren't trapped in the American higher education system
Students getting into debt to pay for school and Johnny American getting into debt because he took a triple mortgage on his house so he could buy more shit he didn't need (like, at all) are two entirely different things.
"I was surprised that the police would waste time on my petty debts," said Williams, 45, of Minneapolis, who had a $5,773 judgment from a credit card debt. "Don't they have real criminals to catch?"
These are the stupid people who they are arresting. Don't they have time for REAL CRIMINALS? PETTY CRIMES shouldn't be punished so long as REAL CRIMINALS EXIST.
"Less than a month earlier, she learned by chance from an employment counselor that she had an outstanding warrant."
Uh, if I found out there was a fucking WARRANT FOR MY ARREST I'd probably get it checked out some time over the course of a month.
A lot of the problems for US debt stem from the awful medical/education system, but a lot of them don't. I know a lot of people my age who carry debt on their credit cards, thinking it will magically go away over time, or something. People are stupid, and it's not really worrying that some dickhole county in Minnesota (or whereever) had allowed people to be arrested for missing court dates. OH NO YOU BROKE THE LAW AND NOW YOU HAVE TO SPEND A NIGHT IN A HOLDING CELL BOO HOO
p.s. please don't bite me in the ass irony
edit: One of the stories points out that the woman was offered drugs (OH NO). Americans. PFEH
edit2: I am not pro drugs (no druge for me) but I have been offered drugs many times in the course of regular walking down the street life, it is not TERRIFYING
p.s. please don't bite me in the ass irony
this was pretty much exactly what i was thinking as i read your post
only applying it to me, of course
post=143936not really, if they're over the due date, then what else are the crediters supposed to do? they can't just let them off
While the article itself is pretty stupid, I do have to comment however that setting a court date over 250 dollars is pretty fucked!!!
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taking them to court is probably better than smashing their kneecaps
Why are these mafiosos smashing my knee caps when there are REAL SNITCHES to be kneecapped?
It does seem odd that the court system and law enforcement are being used as tough guys, comin' to rough you up. Seems a little ...exploitive.
It's part to make an example of someone, part intimidation. They can take somebody to small claims court over unpaid credit but I doubt it isn't very profitable to do this with every person. They picked someone and filed a claim to motivate them to pay them back. If they do, great! Cancel the claim with minimal cost and the loaner gets their money back. Otherwise the defendant will get in a court fight they probably won't win. Either way they'll show to other people that you either pay back your debts or take you to court!
(or you can declare bankruptcy)
(or you can declare bankruptcy)
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It does seem odd that the court system and law enforcement are being used as tough guys, comin' to rough you up. Seems a little ...exploitive.
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(or you can declare bankruptcy)
The various systems in place are ripe for exploitation - my best guess about that is that laws used to be simple, until some wise guy came up with a way to exploit it so they had to be more specific. And now, these more specific laws, when taken out of context, allow more exploitation. hey wait a minute...
My favourite is the story of bankruptcy rules. Used to be, all your debt would be forgiven. But then some lawyer students (and their doctor friends) discovered they could take student loans, earn their degrees (as a financial lawyer, for example) and then declare bankruptcy. 7 years later, clean credit.
Yeah, student loans don't get erased with bankruptcy anymore.
monetary debts left unpaid should be paid via sexual favors, or if same blood type their blood and non vital organs should be at disposal for personal use of debt holders.
idk - mind fart i guess.
idk - mind fart i guess.
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You're right. However;
The laws allowing for the arrest of someone for an unpaid debt are not new.
What is new is the rise of well-funded, aggressive and centralized collection firms, in many cases run by attorneys, that buy up unpaid debt and use the courts to collect.
There's nothing at least a little messed up about this? Especially in the middle of a recession? The quintessential American problem is living beyond your means and borrowing what you can't pay, but is the solution to this is to throw everyone in jail?
jails and prisons are also starting to be owned by private companies so yeah, the answer is to throw them in jail to rake in tax payer money. I think they ask for 80,000$ per person a year. Which is ridiculous considering it takes more money to feed a dog then a prisoner.
And minimum offenders anyone?
What the fuck happened to this country?
























