PEOPLE WANT WHAT THEY CAN'T HAVE.

That's nothing, I missed how bosses would just effen explode all over the place no matter what kind of monster they were in the first Grandia game, complete with all the light beams and triangular orange particle effects.

It also took me a long while to see the skull in the puff of clouds that appears in A Link to the Past, it happened so fast and I couldn't see the shading that I thought it was just a cloud.

This is also a reason why I'm trying to get my FM and Z80 synth library to work with my engine, I loved the KRRRSSHSHHHHHHHSHSHSHHSHSHAHHAAAAAAAAAA sound effects.


It's not like a drug or anything, it's just good sound design. When you hit stuff and it's actually doing damage, you need to hear it. If you mute your speakers for games like these, you'll notice your hits and kills just feel flat.

I don't think so.

"(g)(1) The term "drug" means (A) articles recognized in the official United States Pharmacopoeia, official Homoeopathic Pharmacopoeia of the United States, or official National Formulary, or any supplement to any of them; and (B) articles intended for use in the diagnosis, cure, mitigation, treatment, or prevention of disease in man or other animals; and (C) articles (other than food) intended to affect the structure or any function of the body of man or other animals; and (D) articles intended for use as a component of any article specified in clause (A), (B), or (C). A food or dietary supplement for which a claim, subject to sections 403(r)(1)(B) and 403(r)(3) or sections 403(r)(1)(B) and 403(r)(5)(D), is made in accordance with the requirements of section 403(r) is not a drug solely because the label or the labeling contains such a claim. A food, dietary ingredient, or dietary supplement for which a truthful and not misleading statement is made in accordance with section 403(r)(6) is not a drug under clause (C) solely because the label or the labeling contains such a statement."
- FD&C Act, Section 201(g)(1)

You would have to put forth evidence that the articles and effects you claim fall under this definition of a drug. You can't just melt your definitions and blanket everything just because it sounds cool and fits your world lens. It's like calling everything sex even though it really isn't.

I actually didn't quite know what you mean, but I would have if you just said "addictive". There's being clever, and then there's just adding buzzwords to actual commonly known game terms. It's like saying you're making a "adrenaline" game when you're really just making an action RPG. "Action RPG" makes more sense.

Next post please pertain to the topic at hand!

The topic is about "wanting what you can't have" or about "drugs". Either way, you're being awfully vague and could warrant anyone's interpretation of the above. We have talked about many elements of game design, however, your thesis statement is still unclear. I'm referring to a one-sentence summary of the argument you are trying to make with what you have said in the opening post.

Everyone's responses have been all over the board in game design, therefore, any particular topic is unknown and any topic could be tied to the last one. I'm simply defending my position in the statement that we have been talking about game design for responses starting an idea of game design (i.e. sound design linked to game design). This would then follow into a discussion of what makes something in a game addictive.

However the clinical definition of what a drug is or isn't not the type of post I'm really looking for or want to read.

With this statement, you are being a more polite version of craze in a thread made a while back. Discussion was all over the place and craze would repeatedly say something to this effect but in a more direct way because they were posts only Craze did not like/want/care about as the thread opener. Even though I am directly responding to you now, the post where I reference the definition of "drug" was actually made out loud to just anyone.

It's important to understand the word "article" in that document. If you made such a claim that a video game is a drug and that it will cause certain effect, that document would actually apply in the United States. This is why some things (such as energy drinks) carry those labels stating this product's claims have not been verified by the FDA.

Some people seriously want to treat video games as drugs in this fashion, especially after the World of Warcraft Korean Death incidents. What seems like a purely semantic argument is actually also much more than just that.

WolfCoder, you are a fucking idiot. I hope Ke$ha shoots you.

I hope Ke$ha shoots you.

What the hell is wrong with you?

Don't worry, I dun goofed. I apologize, all.

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I hope Ke$ha gives you AIDS

... Would've been a more realistic a wish to make.

Especially since Ke$ha's so drunk she wouldn't be able to hit the broad side of a barn...at point-blank range.

How do you guys feel about epic intros (whether to the game or a specific character) where you get access to all kinds of sweet abilities - then it gets taken away and you're L1? Does it drive you to build up a certain dude, or is it just fun? Annoying? Stupid?

Examples:
-Legacies of Dondoran 2 demo
-Jade in Tales of the Abyss
-Tales of Phantasia's intro with the parents fighting Dhaos (iirc)
-Kind of seen in Magitek in Final Fantasy VI
-1/8 of the cast in every single Suikoden game
-Every game that begins with a dream of you being The Epic Heroes

Please submit more examples, too. I feel like there are many more that I can't think of in my current sick and tired state!

MKID, please go into more detail. Just saying "they annoy me to no end" isn't that useful! Why does it annoy you? Is there a better way to execute it, or should it just be removed? Can you see any merits?