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People aren't starting the discussion just to annoy you, but to get an argument why something is changed, and to clarify if it's for better or worse.
I agree with this.
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Sorry for annoying you, kentona.
I believe we would just like an official rule for a potentially conflictive situation, as LockeZ said.
But if the staff thinks it's not needed, well then, who am I to disagree.
author=kentona
here's something that everyone should understand: fuck off.
I am getting tired of this constant cantankerous scrutinization of every little bullshit thing and it being blown way out of proportion when it doesn't even matter all that fucking much.
I don't think this is "every little bullshit", it's an important matter that requires a simple solution with reasonable arguments being presented.
I didn't expect this "fuck off" from you, if you're stressed out just take a vacation, but I think this website is in a level of seriousness that should require lucid moderation.
Seeing as people are always complaining about how we never get any foreign games, I don't really see the reviews as a bad thing.
And for the record, google translate works just fine.
And for the record, google translate works just fine.
Zephyr
1241
Jag tycker att recensionerna ska vara på engelska eftersom hela hemsidan är engelskbaserad.
De flesta(om inte all) verkar kunna språket. Jag tycker också att recensionerna är mer för läsarnas skull för att få höra bra saker om ett spel dom har att pröva.
Jag säger inte att det behöver bara vara på engelska, men inkludera i alla fall en engelsk översättning i samma recension.
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I think the reviews should be in english since this whole site is english-based.
Most people(if not all) seem to know the language. I also think the reviews are more for the readers as to get a good word of a game they have yet to try out.
I'm not saying that it should be only english, but do at least include an english translation within the very same review.
De flesta(om inte all) verkar kunna språket. Jag tycker också att recensionerna är mer för läsarnas skull för att få höra bra saker om ett spel dom har att pröva.
Jag säger inte att det behöver bara vara på engelska, men inkludera i alla fall en engelsk översättning i samma recension.
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I think the reviews should be in english since this whole site is english-based.
Most people(if not all) seem to know the language. I also think the reviews are more for the readers as to get a good word of a game they have yet to try out.
I'm not saying that it should be only english, but do at least include an english translation within the very same review.
Shinan
4314
Well, since you might expect it more from me, "fuck off". This argument is retarded. God forbid people are exposed to cultures that aren't their own. If you can't read a review then don't fucking read it. Christ.
Seems to me the people most against non-english stuff are those that don't have English as their first language. Which is interesting in its own way I suppose.
Så du kan nog stritta åt fittan du med.
This whole thing just seems to have been handled exceptionally poorly. From accepting the reviews out of nowhere with no explanation to the whole "Fuck Off" thing. It really is just poor, poor management.
So yeah, it was fucking retarded.
BIG IMPORTANT FRONT PAGE NEWS
We will be accepting some very rare cases of foreign language reviews. Please understand this is a MAJOR BIG DEAL. Let the whining commence!
We will be accepting some very rare cases of foreign language reviews. Please understand this is a MAJOR BIG DEAL. Let the whining commence!
Shinan
4314
Honestly, it would have helped if that there had been on the front page. Anything would have been better than what happened.
rpgmaker.net is the only place in the world where six or seven people constitutes backlash.
Re: this discussion. There have only been two instances of this happening ever. I'll look into finding a suitable way to have a translation of the reviews available as well. But to suggest we need some hard rule for something that statistically never happens, and when it does happen the world doesn't end, just leads to an inflexible bureaucracy. This is a RPG Maker website, not a government agency -- and even for us this is a relatively minor issue.
I think kentona is just frustrated with the constant barrage of armchair philosophical discussion regarding website mechanics and "policy". I haven't spoken with him regarding it, but really we as a community (myself included) like to scrutinize and over-analyze things that are really minor in the larger scheme of things -- often suggesting potential solutions that are time consuming and/or won't even have the desired effect.
Re: this discussion. There have only been two instances of this happening ever. I'll look into finding a suitable way to have a translation of the reviews available as well. But to suggest we need some hard rule for something that statistically never happens, and when it does happen the world doesn't end, just leads to an inflexible bureaucracy. This is a RPG Maker website, not a government agency -- and even for us this is a relatively minor issue.
I think kentona is just frustrated with the constant barrage of armchair philosophical discussion regarding website mechanics and "policy". I haven't spoken with him regarding it, but really we as a community (myself included) like to scrutinize and over-analyze things that are really minor in the larger scheme of things -- often suggesting potential solutions that are time consuming and/or won't even have the desired effect.
Well, I think you guys are overreacting... this is just a topic. We're discussing in a forum called "user feedback". There's no barrage or "cantankerous scrutinization" or whatever.
And no one is suggesting time consuming solutions or schemes, it's just a matter of "deny" or "accept".
Anyways, if you have a community full of very opiniated people that's no reason to be mad or impolite.
And no one is suggesting time consuming solutions or schemes, it's just a matter of "deny" or "accept".
Anyways, if you have a community full of very opiniated people that's no reason to be mad or impolite.
I wasn't referring to this topic by itself -- in fact, I mocked the idea of it constituting a backlash. There are, however, epic suggestion threads present with multitudes of complex suggestions to combat such simple things as personal preferences.
However, things are rarely "deny" or "accept". It is usually "accept" or "deny, but we continue to push the issue". kentona made his point pretty clear several times prior to the outburst: this is not enough of an issue to formulate a rule or a policy change regarding, at least not yet. Not everything in life needs to have a rule, especially when the issue at hand is at worst a minor inconvenience to a small handful of users. Not quite the matter of great importance it was suggested to be.
However, things are rarely "deny" or "accept". It is usually "accept" or "deny, but we continue to push the issue". kentona made his point pretty clear several times prior to the outburst: this is not enough of an issue to formulate a rule or a policy change regarding, at least not yet. Not everything in life needs to have a rule, especially when the issue at hand is at worst a minor inconvenience to a small handful of users. Not quite the matter of great importance it was suggested to be.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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There's definitely something to be said for having a rule for every situation. It keeps mods from ever being able to abuse their power, and keeps people from ever being able to claim that the mods abused their power. It keeps people from getting punished just for being stupid - when everything is clear-cut, the only way to get punished is to intentionally break the rules. There's no more room for interpretation or misunderstanding or playing favorites. If you break the rules, you get punished; if you don't break the rules, you don't get punished.
One person might think that, for example, "no trolling" is just common sense. But another person might have been on other websites where it was allowed, and then seen that this website doesn't have a rule against it, so logically assumed it must be allowed here too. Then they would get punished or even banned for something that they had no way of knowing was not allowed. If different mods punish people for different things, this can be extremely bad and result in major scandals and very accurate accusations of unfairness. Even if they all agree, it is often very confusing.
Ultimately, though, how you run the site is up to you. If you find that dealing with numerous threads full of questions about your policies is less work than writing and then adhering to ten pages of rules about social interaction and another six pages about submissions, then it probably is. I can definitely see your side too - making and following rules can sometimes be a lot of extra work, people might just switch from asking about the rules to complaining about them, and you don't want to look draconian.
One person might think that, for example, "no trolling" is just common sense. But another person might have been on other websites where it was allowed, and then seen that this website doesn't have a rule against it, so logically assumed it must be allowed here too. Then they would get punished or even banned for something that they had no way of knowing was not allowed. If different mods punish people for different things, this can be extremely bad and result in major scandals and very accurate accusations of unfairness. Even if they all agree, it is often very confusing.
Ultimately, though, how you run the site is up to you. If you find that dealing with numerous threads full of questions about your policies is less work than writing and then adhering to ten pages of rules about social interaction and another six pages about submissions, then it probably is. I can definitely see your side too - making and following rules can sometimes be a lot of extra work, people might just switch from asking about the rules to complaining about them, and you don't want to look draconian.
author=ShinanWhat had happened exactly? That people attacked someone for posting a Spanish review? That people attacked the staff for accepting a Spanish review? That even after I stated what the rule was for non-english reviews people kept goading me and provoking me? That ankylo quit in disgust as a result? Yes, you are right. Anything would have been better than what happened.
Honestly, it would have helped if that there had been on the front page. Anything would have been better than what happened.
And I am just plain tired of being attacked for all of my decisions. I tried hard to make RMN a site that people would want to be a part of.
The foreign language review aren't that big of a deal, if you don't like them, ignore them. RMN is(or is supposed) to be welcome to people's opinion about games.
Now this is true, the review was short, and it didn't really go over many of the things reviews normally go over. That was like a post, which should have been on the game's page.
RMN is an awesome site.
I haven't seen any activity of the member who posted it anyway. You pushed them off.
author=Fallen-Griever
What is bad about those reviews isn't that they're in a foreign language (hint: Chrome is good at translating things if you're really lazy), it's that they're terrible reviews, lacking in depth that show no deeper understanding of the game's mechanics than "lol gam gud".
Now this is true, the review was short, and it didn't really go over many of the things reviews normally go over. That was like a post, which should have been on the game's page.
RMN is an awesome site.
I haven't seen any activity of the member who posted it anyway. You pushed them off.
