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CloseTheir screen topics are full of VXP RTP screenies. They all look the same.
That's one of the biggest problems about these engines: There are not many ripped graphics for them out there and it's harder to make them.
But even with those engines RMN is better than the rest because some guys here use different resources.
That's one of the biggest problems about these engines: There are not many ripped graphics for them out there and it's harder to make them.
But even with those engines RMN is better than the rest because some guys here use different resources.
We all probably should quit using RPG Maker. Unless you're making money or using it for a portfolio to get a game making job. Otherwise its a hobby.
orochii
6740
Pfff... when you think you're the best is just that you've never seen anything. When you do, and accept it, you can go beyond. I think it's important to get feet on the ground.
All people start in zero (even "geniuses", if they don't get experience they don't get anywhere), from practice and experience is how they get better...
I have to admit that, the first time I presented a game of mine into a community was worse than what I imagined, but well... that's understandable! (I didn't thought about leaving it though, it was the opposite, made me to feel an urge to learn, which I still have).
When you make a first step, you're floating in the air!
Orochii Zouveleki
All people start in zero (even "geniuses", if they don't get experience they don't get anywhere), from practice and experience is how they get better...
I have to admit that, the first time I presented a game of mine into a community was worse than what I imagined, but well... that's understandable! (I didn't thought about leaving it though, it was the opposite, made me to feel an urge to learn, which I still have).
When you make a first step, you're floating in the air!
Orochii Zouveleki
Jparker1984
2008
author=ShortStar
We all probably should quit using RPG Maker. Unless you're making money or using it for a portfolio to get a game making job. Otherwise its a hobby.
I completely disagree with you.
If it's anything but productive, such as payment, or some form of a job for others, it is a hobby. Because then why else are you doing it? For fun? That's a hobby.
If it's, say, for a class project (could be?) then it's some form of a job. Anything else, not a job, and you're just doing it to do it, is a form of a hobby. Something you're doing in your own spare time.
If it's, say, for a class project (could be?) then it's some form of a job. Anything else, not a job, and you're just doing it to do it, is a form of a hobby. Something you're doing in your own spare time.
Dyhalto
7536
Collecting stamps or going fishing are hobbies.
Creating an RPG is a productive activity. The reward for completing one and having thousands (or more) of people play it has an intangible return on investment. If anything, people should be aspiring more to that spiritual self-fulfillment instead of trying to make the number in the bank account bigger.
This notion people commonly have that making money should be foremost goal is wrong. People should be making money so they can afford to do the things they want to do.
Creating an RPG is a productive activity. The reward for completing one and having thousands (or more) of people play it has an intangible return on investment. If anything, people should be aspiring more to that spiritual self-fulfillment instead of trying to make the number in the bank account bigger.
This notion people commonly have that making money should be foremost goal is wrong. People should be making money so they can afford to do the things they want to do.
Brent
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author=Dyhalto
This notion people commonly have that making money should be foremost goal is wrong. People should be making money so they can afford to do the things they want to do.
Amen to that brother. You should be doing this for the experience and the joy of completing a video game that others can play and get joy from that. It's nice to get rewarded for spending countless hours doing something like making video games as a side hobby, but one's goal shouldn't be to earn a hefty pay day from it.
Besides, when you become a professional, the serious side of gaming takes over whatever fun you used to have making games like the ones we make here. ^^
Yeah, sitting in a dark cellar doing graphics or maps for somebody who is telling you what he wants and what kind of story and gameplay the game will have.
Must suck to work for a game you don't have control about as a whole.
I mak gam to tell a story, a visual one and not a book. To can play character etc to make it more fun. Visual novels suck. Because when I play I need the feeling of having "succeeded" anything, a riddle, a battle, whatever...
Must suck to work for a game you don't have control about as a whole.
I mak gam to tell a story, a visual one and not a book. To can play character etc to make it more fun. Visual novels suck. Because when I play I need the feeling of having "succeeded" anything, a riddle, a battle, whatever...
author=Dyhalto
Collecting stamps or going fishing are hobbies.
Creating an RPG is a productive activity. The reward for completing one and having thousands (or more) of people play it has an intangible return on investment. If anything, people should be aspiring more to that spiritual self-fulfillment instead of trying to make the number in the bank account bigger.
This notion people commonly have that making money should be foremost goal is wrong. People should be making money so they can afford to do the things they want to do.
It still is considered a hobby.
I do work on the computer such as digital art as a hobby, and then I show it off for the mere fact of showing it off, but I don't make it JUST because I want others to see it. For a game it could be that, or because they merely want others to see it. But the fact remains, that it still is a hobby. People playing it or not.
A hobby is -anything- you do in your spare time. May it be creating a game, to fixing a vehicle, to drawing, or collecting stamps. It doesn't have to be some generalized, simple thing such as placing stamps in a book, or collecting rusty old coins. Being productive doesn't change what a hobby is. There is no fine line in how one goes about doing a hobby.
author=SorceressKyrstyYou might not care for this topic as much as other people, since most of your games tend to be on the better side.
Question: why are you telling us this? I mean, it's not like you're the first person to ever feel disheartened about being worse than other people.
You didn't even poise a question or a point for discussion. You just stated a story.
Yeah, cool story bro. Point?
I have had that problem, but then I realized who cares. In 10 years, nobody will care about some 13 year old's game. I just do this when I am bored.
author=Jparker1984There are some people who just sit around using it all day, and then blame it for their problems.author=ShortStarI completely disagree with you.
We all probably should quit using RPG Maker. Unless you're making money or using it for a portfolio to get a game making job. Otherwise its a hobby.
author=Adon237
There are some people who just sit around using it all day, and then blame it for their problems.
That's an interesting remark.
author=kentona
Right now, no one cares about some 13 year old's game.
:D
Thanks?
Anyway, as many have said, there will always be that better game than yours. Every game has it's strengths and weaknesses.
Dyhalto
7536
author=Thiamor
It still is considered a hobby.
I was making the distinction between a goal-oriented activity and mere R&R.
But if you want to go with the broad definition of "hobby" then putting my feet up and relaxing on the couch is a hobby. Watching TV is a hobby. Chilling with buds is a hobby. Eating snacks is a hobby. Reading a magazine while taking a shit is a hobby.
Generalising human time spent as "Work" or "Hobby" is overly simple.
Anyway, people got my previous point. No sense repeating :D
I think an activity being goal-oriented is pretty good defining trait of a hobby (vs, say, chilling out and watching TV with some buds)
orochii
6740
I think hobbies have a goal. A personal one. You chill out with your friends watching TV for some reason, right? Because you like to do it, and because you have a relation with them (enjoy it and it gives you something, and no, it's not bucks).
As Dyhalto somehow said, "Work" and "Hobby" definitions are much more complicated than saying "this is what I make in my spare time and what I enjoy" and "this is what I do by obligation and gets almost all of my time" (in which case, your work is sleeping, it fits ;D).
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As for this. I thought about leaving it? Not entirely. I left for some months the RPG Maker engine. But I didn't got far from game creation. I did some tries with C programming (in vain), thinking about my project being developed "from scratch".
But I never got really far from this,
Orochii Zouveleki
As Dyhalto somehow said, "Work" and "Hobby" definitions are much more complicated than saying "this is what I make in my spare time and what I enjoy" and "this is what I do by obligation and gets almost all of my time" (in which case, your work is sleeping, it fits ;D).
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As for this. I thought about leaving it? Not entirely. I left for some months the RPG Maker engine. But I didn't got far from game creation. I did some tries with C programming (in vain), thinking about my project being developed "from scratch".
But I never got really far from this,
Orochii Zouveleki
Jparker1984
2008
i wasn't saying its not a hobby, but i disagreed with him saying people should probably quit unless they are making money.
