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JAPANESE HUMOR IN JRPG! WELL, I DON'T FIND IT FUNNY.
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happax
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CloseOk, so, as for me, you all (I hope) played JRPGs, and most of them featured some "Humour". Well, JRPG's humour is, most always, situationnal humour, meaning: The characters will get themselves in a situation prompt to be humoristic. This translate into JRPG as : Akward or absurd situation with funny music and untranslatable pun.
I played contless japanese game and never find one even slightly funny. And I normaly laught quite easily.
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor work best with girl, but are not the JRPG games aimed mainly at boys?)
I played contless japanese game and never find one even slightly funny. And I normaly laught quite easily.
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor work best with girl, but are not the JRPG games aimed mainly at boys?)
author=happax
This translate into JRPG as : Akward or absurd situation with funny music and untranslatable pun.
Hahahahaha, I know exactly what you mean. Sad part is it's becoming worse and more prominent in newer jrpgs.
I'd like to return to the days when the protagonist didn't need to say a goddamn word.
FFVII was a funny ass game, though. If you didn't laugh at anything in FFVII something is wrong with you.
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author=Feldschlacht IV
FFVII was a funny ass game, though. If you didn't laugh at anything in FFVII something is wrong with you.
If you're talking about the cloud-is-dressed-as-a-girl part, no! I didn't laugh at all. I may have laugh sometime somewhere while playing the game but I don't remember it as being a particularly funny game.
Not even that part. Just a bunch of small parts like Cid kicking that comedian in the balls in his own house and those dudes on the subway being robbed butt naked.
happax
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The last time I played ff7 was way back but I remember a bit of those part...(also I think I found a bit of humor inChrono trigger)
Anyway, those are exception (as they are also JRPG exception in general), most of modern FF title take themself to much seriously and the tales of franchise as well as star ocean or every NIS games, they are supposed to feature humor, but they don't.
Anyway, those are exception (as they are also JRPG exception in general), most of modern FF title take themself to much seriously and the tales of franchise as well as star ocean or every NIS games, they are supposed to feature humor, but they don't.
Well I mean, you're basically arguing that they should cater to your specific tastes. Yes, I understand the argument about quality, but humor in JRPG's has always, with little exception catered to a specific audience. If you're outside their target audience, then tough luck I guess?
There's a lot of stuff JRPGs have been getting confused lately but humor is one of those 'either you do or you don't' type things. I couldn't really complain about not finding Jeff Foxworthy funny because I am not his target audience at all. But if his target audience finds him funny, then it's a gain, yeah?
There's a lot of stuff JRPGs have been getting confused lately but humor is one of those 'either you do or you don't' type things. I couldn't really complain about not finding Jeff Foxworthy funny because I am not his target audience at all. But if his target audience finds him funny, then it's a gain, yeah?
Shinan
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I can agree with this. Most of the "humour" in these games seemed to be "this is so bad I just have to laugh" kind of humour. Nothing wrong with that of course. I don't mind laughing a bit at really bad jokes. Or jokes that seemingly make no sense.
I do think there might be a bit of cultural divide in the jokes sometimes. Mostly because of the placement of the jokes. Occasionally they just seem very misplaced. But I can totally see the cultural divide because if there's anything that varies greatly from area to area it's what constitutes a "good" joke. Yeah, sure, some funny bits work everywhere, but a lot don't.
Of course I have not played more recent translations, though I'd like to believe that with better localization these things are better translated to a different audience. (Going from "wtf was that?" to "heh, that's clever". Then it's up to each of us to decided which one we like best.)
I do think there might be a bit of cultural divide in the jokes sometimes. Mostly because of the placement of the jokes. Occasionally they just seem very misplaced. But I can totally see the cultural divide because if there's anything that varies greatly from area to area it's what constitutes a "good" joke. Yeah, sure, some funny bits work everywhere, but a lot don't.
Of course I have not played more recent translations, though I'd like to believe that with better localization these things are better translated to a different audience. (Going from "wtf was that?" to "heh, that's clever". Then it's up to each of us to decided which one we like best.)
I have to admit that I found a lot of Jansens dialogue in Lost Odyssey (an otherwise very Asian game) funny, and Tales of Vesperia has some witty moments as well.
They're getting better about it.
They're getting better about it.
happaxThe only problem here is your lack of understanding Japanese culture and humor, the jRPGs are not at fault (barring translation issues).
I played contless japanese game and never find one even slightly funny. And I normaly laught quite easily.
happaxThough I'm going off on a limb, I do believe there's a sizable number of female players of jRPGs as well in Japan. There's also the question of what you mean by a jRPG, because obviously jRPGs geared towards girls will have female players.
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor work best with girl, but are not the JRPG games aimed mainly at boys?)
That aside, there really isn't any noticable difference in appreciation of Japanese humor between the genders.
Feldschlacht IVAgreed all the way! Games made in Japan are made to cater to their primary audience: the Japanese (and others who understand Japanese culture). If the unfortunate player is with an outside audience, then tough luck as Feld said. As someone who understands and appreciates Japanese humor, I certainly hope jRPGs keep it up like they always have.
humor in JRPG's has always, with little exception catered to a specific audience. If you're outside their target audience, then tough luck I guess?
I found some parts in Grandia funny. And little perverted. Like the main character in front of the green haired chicks' ass. that is all.
UPRC
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author=Feldschlacht IV
Not even that part. Just a bunch of small parts like Cid kicking that comedian in the balls in his own house and those dudes on the subway being robbed butt naked.
Cid was a comedy goldmine.
"Sit your ass down in that chair and drink your goddamn TEA!"
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author=KingArthurFeldschlacht IVAgreed all the way! Games made in Japan are made to cater to their primary audience: the Japanese (and others who understand Japanese culture). If the unfortunate player is with an outside audience, then tough luck as Feld said. As someone who understands and appreciates Japanese humor, I certainly hope jRPGs keep it up like they always have.
humor in JRPG's has always, with little exception catered to a specific audience. If you're outside their target audience, then tough luck I guess?
Yeah I agree with that. your win, my loss! I understand that JRPG humor particulary aimed at japanese audience. (you can see the same type of humor in both japanese manga and anime) But you know, I was more pissed by the last JRPG I played than anything else.
author=KingArthurhappax
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor work best with girl, but are not the JRPG games aimed mainly at boys?)
Though I'm going off on a limb, I do believe there's a sizable number of female players of jRPGs as well in Japan. There's also the question of what you mean by a jRPG, because obviously jRPGs geared towards girls will have female players.
That aside, there really isn't any noticable difference in appreciation of Japanese humor between the genders.
Well, I was talking about JRPG aimed at boy, which almost every one containt some situational humor.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=happax
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor works best with girls
I don't know where you heard this, and I find it very hard to believe. The only type of humor that I've ever heard is found funnier by one gender than another is fart jokes. Fart jokes work better on guys.
I think my personal pet peeve in Japanese humor is the type that makes up 100% of the humor in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist. I'll call it Violent Overreaction Humor. Where one character says something that intentionally or unintentionally pokes a little bit of fun at another character, like casually mentioning that the second character is short or is a bad cook, and the second character starts screaming bloody murder and physically assaulting the first character. I don't understand the point, it's not funny. It just makes what might have otherwise been a funny jab at the character become extremely annoying.
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author=LockeZauthor=happaxI don't know where you heard this, and I find it very hard to believe. The only type of humor that I've ever heard is found funnier by one gender than another is fart jokes. Fart jokes work better on guys.
(Strange fact: I heard that situational humor works best with girls
I think my personal pet peeve in Japanese humor is the type that makes up 100% of the humor in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist. I'll call it Violent Overreaction Humor. Where one character says something that intentionally or unintentionally pokes a little bit of fun at another character, like casually mentioning that the second character is short or is a bad cook, and the second character starts screaming bloody murder and physically assaulting the first character. I don't understand the point, it's not funny. It just makes what might have otherwise been a funny jab at the character become extremely annoying.
well, it wasn't explicitly said anywere, but I heard it from various people and most of the girl i know said that it was the type of humor that work best with them.
Shinan
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author=LockeZ
I think my personal pet peeve in Japanese humor is the type that makes up 100% of the humor in anime like Fullmetal Alchemist. I'll call it Violent Overreaction Humor.
Hahaha, that is so true. I hadn't thought about it that way before but Japanese humour seems to be about overracting to every little thing. (and getting brain hemorrhages over it too. What's with all the nosebleeds all the time?)
Compare that to the classic British humour which is all about not reacting AT ALL to the strangest things.
I think part of it is that the original jokes in Japanese don't translate well into English so the translators have to make something that they think will fit. After watching a lot of anime, reading manga and playing jRPGs, I've noticed that a lot of humour is mostly name puns, situational humour and character/personality typing.
For example, take DBZ. We find some parts funny for a lot of reasons but the very first jokes the Japanese saw in the series (or one of the first) was the play on names. Most of them revolved around food, and sure, most Western fans know that but how many of us really get the joke?
"Oh, so he's named after a type of dumpling? Okay, cool."
Not exactly funny to us, but to some of the Japanese I've talked to, when they first saw it they though it was quite funny. I've gotten very used to this in the course of my reading/watching One Piece.
Also, a lot of their characters are made funny by assigning them personality types. Western movies do this sometimes - things like the stoner next door who's always pulling stupid shit, for example. In Japanese film/games it's more pronounced - there's the tsundere (are you tsuntsun, deredere or tsundere?), the petite mage girl (jailbait!) etc. But they take it further - even blood typing can be a hidden joke - if someone is AB it means something different to if they're an O.
It's very different to most of our humour - Western audiences tend to like watching people hurt themselves. (Hello, Funniest Home Videos~) Also, fart jokes if my brothers are anything to go by. And people just doing stupid shit. How many of you laugh at Mr. Bean or Jim Carrey? That's pure situational comedy at it's finest, I do believe.
For example, take DBZ. We find some parts funny for a lot of reasons but the very first jokes the Japanese saw in the series (or one of the first) was the play on names. Most of them revolved around food, and sure, most Western fans know that but how many of us really get the joke?
"Oh, so he's named after a type of dumpling? Okay, cool."
Not exactly funny to us, but to some of the Japanese I've talked to, when they first saw it they though it was quite funny. I've gotten very used to this in the course of my reading/watching One Piece.
Also, a lot of their characters are made funny by assigning them personality types. Western movies do this sometimes - things like the stoner next door who's always pulling stupid shit, for example. In Japanese film/games it's more pronounced - there's the tsundere (are you tsuntsun, deredere or tsundere?), the petite mage girl (jailbait!) etc. But they take it further - even blood typing can be a hidden joke - if someone is AB it means something different to if they're an O.
It's very different to most of our humour - Western audiences tend to like watching people hurt themselves. (Hello, Funniest Home Videos~) Also, fart jokes if my brothers are anything to go by. And people just doing stupid shit. How many of you laugh at Mr. Bean or Jim Carrey? That's pure situational comedy at it's finest, I do believe.
