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Supreme Court strikes down bans on gay marriage in US

author=LockeZ
@emmych: I'm using your words to make a point you disagree with because you're being a hypocrite. You think the one situation doesn't apply to the other, but you're wrong. They're analogous.

For the record, I didn't find that quote by looking through your post history for quotes I could use against you or anything like that; I actually remembered it from when you said it. Even though you were talking about video game characters at the time, it was something that stuck with me with respect to real life as well. People aren't defined by a single trait, and it's perfectly possible to identify with someone, like them, or even love them despite hating one of the things they do. It's not fair to dismiss their value because of one little thing. Being gay is such a little thing. It doesn't really matter. Just like race and sex don't matter. They're not an identity, and suggesting that they are is exactly the source of racism and sexism and homophobia. You're a strong feminist so you can understand this: the idea that being a woman matters a lot and controls you and affects other aspects of your life besides your physical body is the source of sexism. Sexuality is the same way.

It is easy for you to say those don't matter if you aren't directly affected by those things, the truth however is that they do. The majority of the people who judge someone based on those will rarely ever stop and try to take any other part of your identity into consideration, to them, your skin colour/sexuality/etc are all you are and they often will not budge over it, sometimes the only thing you can do is tell them to "fuck off" and they might not even leave you alone after you do. There's just no talking politely to everyone, racism, homophobia, transphobia and such are so ingrained in society you simply can't.

author=LockeZ
In the meat-banning analogy, I can't say I would be happy, but if the rest of society decided that eating meat was wrong, I would just deal with it. Without getting into specifics, I don't really have to imagine what it would be like if something I liked were banned by law and and also the subject of much public hatred. That's my reality, and I get by just fine by just not doing that thing.

You wouldn't try to do anything about it? Anything at all? You'd just go along with it because society deemed it awful?
You do realize the reason the US has finally given the right to LGBT to marry is in good part due to activism, right? Just accepting things as they are won't change a thing and in some cases will make them worse.
The reason people aren't buying into the meat eater analogy might be because, and this is where it falls apart, eating meat is a choice you make, your skin colour, homosexuality, etc, those are not choices, those are things you can't change, you can't go and tell people to just not do it, you're denying them the right to express a part of who they are, which can lead to many complications, mostly mental, as they can be led to believe something is terribly wrong with them.
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