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Now I'll think 100 times before releasing my next games on this site...
Crescent- 03/14/2016 01:30 PM
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Close...because one review said that you took a bit too much inspiration from a project? I'd hope that any future projects wouldn't be so inspired by other games but more your own work so I don't see the issue with posting your projects up unless you went and drew big inspiration from another game.
It's a fair cop, though - while a fair few of us can see the difference between the two games in question, it's understandable why some would consider it very closely inspired due to how much of the ideas you used. You did borrow a lot of ideas from Star's Favour, but you also improved on some of them quite a bit, so it's not really something to worry over unless you intend to keep borrowing ideas from other games.
It's a fair cop, though - while a fair few of us can see the difference between the two games in question, it's understandable why some would consider it very closely inspired due to how much of the ideas you used. You did borrow a lot of ideas from Star's Favour, but you also improved on some of them quite a bit, so it's not really something to worry over unless you intend to keep borrowing ideas from other games.
Every game has inspiration that comes from somewhere. Not very many people in this industry can re-invent the wheel, so to say.
-_- I feel like 50% of the problem was caused by yourself. You're blowing things out of proportion, deleting your gamepage, and making statuses like this. You're just drawing more attention to what happened.
Like I said in the other status, people were probably too harsh with their complaints. However, you get to choose how you respond to those complaints, and this isn't a good way at all.
In the future, I feel like if you act like a mature and sensible person that things will be alright. But if you can't do that, maybe it is best if you think hard before you submit games.
Like I said in the other status, people were probably too harsh with their complaints. However, you get to choose how you respond to those complaints, and this isn't a good way at all.
In the future, I feel like if you act like a mature and sensible person that things will be alright. But if you can't do that, maybe it is best if you think hard before you submit games.
I really want to quit this topic, but everyone keeps saying that I copied Indrah's game. How can I ignore everyone? Yeah, I realized it's my fault but why not everyone just quit this topic? -_-
Now I am never ever going to take even inspiration from other games in my life, because world thinks it's copying/ripping.
Okay, I seriously won't reply to any more crap about this topic...
Now I am never ever going to take even inspiration from other games in my life, because world thinks it's copying/ripping.
Okay, I seriously won't reply to any more crap about this topic...
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Then stop bringing it up!
If everyone completely quits the topic, then I won't say anything more on this.
Seriously, though, you said straight out that you drew inspiration from her game so of course people are going to compare the two, and the amount of inspiration you drew was pretty big considering the size of the two games. If one or both had been longer and gone along in the storyline presented by them then perhaps it would have been put down to similar starting ideas but the fact that they were both very short and both revolved around a dungeon set in space using the same graphics, music, character-types and, on your part, cameos were of course going to make people think "Hey, I've seen all of this before!"
The fact that there are differences is great and all but you can't fault people for seeing the man similarities when you chose to add those similarities in the game. You made a mistake, learn from it and move on. You've got skills to make decent games, as evidenced by the fact that you took the ideas of another game and made your aspects a bit better, so it is going to be interesting to see where you go in the future, but it is something you'll remember a few years from now and go "Well, that was silly of me but I learned a lot from it and now I'm a much better developer."
So get to either remaking the game in your own image as you talked about doing or making something new - ignore the people who say you copied because frankly, they're right. You did copy ideas from that game and while I'm sure it was not at all malicious or with the intent to steal in any way, they're right in calling a shovel a shovel. Yes, you changed things up a bit. Yes, you ended up making a better version (bar the writing). Accept that fact, learn from it and move forward.
The fact that there are differences is great and all but you can't fault people for seeing the man similarities when you chose to add those similarities in the game. You made a mistake, learn from it and move on. You've got skills to make decent games, as evidenced by the fact that you took the ideas of another game and made your aspects a bit better, so it is going to be interesting to see where you go in the future, but it is something you'll remember a few years from now and go "Well, that was silly of me but I learned a lot from it and now I'm a much better developer."
So get to either remaking the game in your own image as you talked about doing or making something new - ignore the people who say you copied because frankly, they're right. You did copy ideas from that game and while I'm sure it was not at all malicious or with the intent to steal in any way, they're right in calling a shovel a shovel. Yes, you changed things up a bit. Yes, you ended up making a better version (bar the writing). Accept that fact, learn from it and move forward.
Please listen to what Liberty says.
I understand it's frustrating and the responses are not something you wanted or want to deal with - that's part of putting it out there. It sucks.
But you need not reply to those bringing it up, nor do you need to defend anything. You simply need to leave it be as it is. Because people going in there can see for themselves.
Not "everyone" thinks in the way you fear, as you said here. Plenty people like me and Libby are perfectly okay with how things were done after playing both games in question.
Some didn't, like Solitayre. And that is okay.
That is how things are - and that does not say anything about you or your efforts, either. Be proud of what you did, look at those who can see what you had in mind.
You have a lot of good you choose to ignore in favour of what upsets you. It's a very tiring thing to do, so I hope you can focus on and thus nurture what actually helps you. This choice is yours, not everyone elses.
I understand it's frustrating and the responses are not something you wanted or want to deal with - that's part of putting it out there. It sucks.
But you need not reply to those bringing it up, nor do you need to defend anything. You simply need to leave it be as it is. Because people going in there can see for themselves.
Not "everyone" thinks in the way you fear, as you said here. Plenty people like me and Libby are perfectly okay with how things were done after playing both games in question.
Some didn't, like Solitayre. And that is okay.
That is how things are - and that does not say anything about you or your efforts, either. Be proud of what you did, look at those who can see what you had in mind.
You have a lot of good you choose to ignore in favour of what upsets you. It's a very tiring thing to do, so I hope you can focus on and thus nurture what actually helps you. This choice is yours, not everyone elses.
Woah, Thanks Liberty... Your post actually made me realized my mistake, my goal was to take some inspiration from the project but I don't know why, I just copied the game. O.O If I use my own ideas in my games, it would be all fine.
Anyway, thanks Liberty and Kylaila. I'd also like to sorry Indrah for everything I did.
I am hoping to learn from my mistakes and make games that are not copies of others things.
Anyway, thanks Liberty and Kylaila. I'd also like to sorry Indrah for everything I did.
I am hoping to learn from my mistakes and make games that are not copies of others things.
What the hell!? Someone is taking a step back to analyze issues instead of outright rage-quitting? Where am I? This ISN'T the RPG Maker community!
... Jokes aside, kudos to you, Crescent, for learning from this and hopefully you won't give up.
Also, drawing inspiration is not uncommon even on a high-level, professional standard. Hell, the fact that some companies use existing games as a base to take what already works and refining it to make something even better actually fuels innovation.
Just be careful not draw "too much" to the point where it becomes copying. It might even help not to even mention that you drew inspiration from another source to avoid some of the nutty white knight players out there.
... Jokes aside, kudos to you, Crescent, for learning from this and hopefully you won't give up.
Also, drawing inspiration is not uncommon even on a high-level, professional standard. Hell, the fact that some companies use existing games as a base to take what already works and refining it to make something even better actually fuels innovation.
Just be careful not draw "too much" to the point where it becomes copying. It might even help not to even mention that you drew inspiration from another source to avoid some of the nutty white knight players out there.
*squints at this*
Are you kidding me.
"my goal was to take some inspiration from the project but I don't know why, I just copied the game"
But in the other status it's a "OHH NO INDRA YOU ARE BEING TOO AGGRO"
"And why would I copy your game? What I will gain to make a game similar to your game? Yup, so please think a little bit before saying that I ripped your game or whatnot."
That was what. 4 hours later? God knows I don't want to drag this forward (seriously I don't but I can't just swallow it up and say nothing either, so I'll vent a bit) but way to switch sides man. You do realize this is bullshit? Cause it is. God.
YEAH IM DONE VENTING ILL SEE MYSELF OUT can you blame me tho this is bullshit
So yeah. Go do your thing man, and good luck, but I hope you learn from this.
(And next time maybe say sorry to my face after that callout in the other post. Coz I didn't even see this till someone pointed it to me).
Yeah, yeah, fine. I'll shut up. Being too aggro but cmon anyone would be :/
Are you kidding me.
"my goal was to take some inspiration from the project but I don't know why, I just copied the game"
But in the other status it's a "OHH NO INDRA YOU ARE BEING TOO AGGRO"
"And why would I copy your game? What I will gain to make a game similar to your game? Yup, so please think a little bit before saying that I ripped your game or whatnot."
That was what. 4 hours later? God knows I don't want to drag this forward (seriously I don't but I can't just swallow it up and say nothing either, so I'll vent a bit) but way to switch sides man. You do realize this is bullshit? Cause it is. God.
YEAH IM DONE VENTING ILL SEE MYSELF OUT can you blame me tho this is bullshit
So yeah. Go do your thing man, and good luck, but I hope you learn from this.
(And next time maybe say sorry to my face after that callout in the other post. Coz I didn't even see this till someone pointed it to me).
Yeah, yeah, fine. I'll shut up. Being too aggro but cmon anyone would be :/
I think Indra has a right to be pissed here, especially after Crescent flat out told her that no copying was going on and that she was blowing things out of proportion in the previous status. :/
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