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Have you learned English while developing games on RM?

author=Red_Nova
author=RafaelLeon
Yours in an interesting take! Although it's not related especifically to English language learning, I think your example really tackles the benefits of using forums for writing improvement in general. Just one question (I'm sorry if it's too personal) but have you taken medications for it or you're trying to handle it in different ways?
I'm fine in answering it. Yes, I do take medication to manage it. The maximum legal dose, as a matter of fact. Also, I seem to have the most focus when I'm writing something, be it an essay, dialogue for games, etc. It's just when I actually speak is when I have the biggest trouble. Even on days that I don't take the meds I feel fine as long as I'm alone and working on something. So every single day I constantly try to improve my English by writing. With varying success.

But I'm getting off topic.

Writing is what I want to get right more than anything in my games, so I really take an extra effort to improve my own English. I know exactly what I want to say in my head, but when I try to form the words, it just gets all jumbled up. If I hadn't joined RMN or even started working on my game, I would still be a stuttering idiot.

I think it's also worth mentioning that I used to avoid internet forums like the plague. Ironically, I hate talking to people that can't form coherent sentences and speak like they're in the ghetto. Most of the forums I looked at were full of people just like that, though.

Now... Nope, nothing's changed. I still avoid internet forums like the plague. RMN is just the one exception.


Thank you for clarifying. It must be really tough! It's good that you keep practicing so that your limitation (is it?) doesn't hold you back.

And thanks for your response too, BizarreMonkey :) It's nice to look back and see how far you've gone!

Have you learned English while developing games on RM?

author=Zod
Hello!
author=RafaelLeon
1) Has forum usage (posting and viewing forums) helped you to develop your writing and reading skills in the English language? If yes, how?


Actually, when I started to consult English forums, my reading level was already pretty high. However, since English is a particularly idiomatic language, forums have allowed me to understand many more modal verbs and hardly evident expressions. Since I'm not a native English speaker, my phrasing tends to be awkward. Nevertheless, given that forum replies are often like "written" oral replies, the phrasing has become more natural. Somehow, it has melted with the environmental style. And, of course, it has helped me to improve my oral skills.

author=RafaelLeon
2) Has game development on RPG Maker (along with forum usage, or without forum usage) helped you to develop skills in the English language? If yes, how?


Of course. Well, since I'm not a native speaker, while developing my games, I sometimes think the sentences in Spanish or French. The need of translating them forces me to look the problematic words up in a dictionary and, therefore, to slowly expand my vocabulary skills. It's the same when I have to reply in forums.

Finally, Kylaila interestingly pointed out the fact that, RM being a hobby for most of us, we don't lack the motivation to search the vocabulary we don't have and, in general, to make our sentences understandable by the community.

If you ever decide to make a paper on this subject, you can obviously use these pieces of information. Thus, please inform me as soon as the final product is ready!

See you!


Thank you for the response! I'll make sure you know when the paper is ready and if I'll publish it.

author=Red_Nova
I'm a native English speaker and I can answer yes to both questions. As someone who suffers from severe ADHD, sometimes I say three different things in one sentence. I want to say a lot, but when I start talking, it comes out as a jumbled mess and no one understands anything I say. My brain races about two sentences ahead of my mouth and I begin to stumble over my words and often say something completely different. When people are talking to me, I begin to zone out and think about other things not even remotely related to what the person is trying to tell me. Often I would have to ask people to repeat what they've just finished saying.

On forums, it's different. Here, I actually have time to collect my thoughts and lay them out in an organized fashion. I can look at my sentences and think, "Is this what I want to say?" After I read over my whole post, I see parts where I don't feel like I made my point clearly, and so I edit it.

It's different for dialogue writing for my games, as well. At first, I just write down whatever comes to mind. As the cutscenes or speeches move along, I find that I begin to stray from my initial intention with off-topic dialogue and such, so I got back and edit the text to make it more focused. Sometimes I reread things my character says and think to myself, "There has to be a better way to say this," so I rewrite and rewrite until I finally have what I want to say.

This procedure has trickled into my real life dialogue now. When someone is talking to me, I can both listen to them and begin forming my own responses immediately. I can select my words better and faster.


Yours in an interesting take! Although it's not related especifically to English language learning, I think your example really tackles the benefits of using forums for writing improvement in general. Just one question (I'm sorry if it's too personal) but have you taken medications for it or you're trying to handle it in different ways?

Thank you all so far :)

Have you learned English while developing games on RM?

author=karins_soulkeeper
RafaelLeon, I'm from the Philippines. Why'd you ask?

(am I the only non-westerner here?)


Because you mentioned that in your country you're "forced" to learn English. That's pretty interesting. Here in Brazil it's not considered important at all.

Have you learned English while developing games on RM?

author=karins_soulkeeper
Hi!

My answer to both is actually no. This might be because we here in my country are force-fed english. If we can't master english, we can't advance. Though being in the forums taught me to be more watchful of my diction. Probably due to the fear of sounding either illiterate or disrespectful.


Karins, may I ask where you're from? :)

Thank you all for the responses so far!

When did you figured it out that you were a gamer?

Probably when I played Breath of Fire IV. It was the first game that made me spend hours in front of the TV actually paying attention to what I was doing (different from the button smashers that I'd played before). It was love at first play, and I've been a RPG aficcionado ever since.

Have you learned English while developing games on RM?

Dear all,

Recently I've become more and more interested in investigating the link between language learning and gameplay/game development (I'm an applied linguist). I don't post much here, but I've been browsing threads of all sorts for some time now and I realized that many members don't have English as their native language, even though they (or you) speak English quite fluently.

So, I have some questions for you guys (and I wish you'd take some of your time to answer this; I might develop a paper on it, if you consent, of course):

1) Has forum usage (posting and viewing forums) helped you to develop your writing and reading skills in the English language? If yes, how?

2) Has game development on RPG Maker (along with forum usage, or without forum usage) helped you to develop skills in the English language? If yes, how?

This is particularly intriguing to me on a personal level, since I've been frequenting forums for quite a long time and I've always thought of how my English skills have improved considerably when interacting with other people towards the same goal (developing a game, for instance).

Thank you in advance!

Making a game that's purposely "bad"(YMMV)

I think there are various ways in which a game can be bad. Some of them depend on who the players are, of course; I may be in love with JRPGs so even if there's a shitty dungeon crawler full of cliches I might love it, but it would be unquestionably a bad game for most people.
Bad is also a term which leads to various possibilities. A game can be boring, full of bugs, have a price-slays-dragon-gets-the-girl storyline... in every case it's a bad game.

If you are to make a game that is supposed to be bad from the beginning, you have to make it clear to the player. In my opinion, those are extremely difficult to make, but if you have the skills, I can't see why you couldn't do it.

Hello!

Thank you all for your responses! :)

I didn't know there were other Brazilians here. But it's a fact that we're very technologically engaged :)

Hello!

Hello, everyone!
My name is Rafael, and I'm an applied linguistics researcher from Brazil. I was really into RPG Maker in my teens, and now in the academic field I intend to bring back this passion in form of research. I may need your help in the coming months, but, for now, I'd like just to say hello to everyone.

Nice to meet you!
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