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I miss XP's 3 layers u.u

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Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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Don't we all.
If you're using MV I recommend using TileD - it allows for as many layers as you like and grid size changes~

It does take a little getting used to, though.
InfectionFiles
the world ends in whatever my makerscore currently is
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Oh my god me too

Why they ever got rid of that is beyond me

I love VX Ace's tile tabs but can't we have both? ;_;
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
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I think it was to make the mapping system more user-friendly, in the sense that instead of actually planning what tile you want to use on each layer, you have your layers restricted to only certain kinds of tiles and anyone can just auto-draw stuff without having to think much. Of course, the obvious downside is that none of the newer RPG makers can match XP in how unrestricted its graphic assets can be.

Like, XP did a hell of a lot of things wrong, primarily with its stat and battle system, but made up for it with its flexibility in how you can use assets.
...again, TileD plugin for MV is miles above XP. Not exactly user friendly (but then neither was XP, so)

Basically you import chipsets (any sizes) and make your own layers (any amount).



author=Ratty524
Like, XP did a hell of a lot of things wrong, primarily with its stat and battle system, but made up for it with its flexibility in how you can use assets.
Yeah, pity they were all almost universally crap though. :DDD
(Eh, the battlers were okay in a cutesy chibi way, but the tilesets were washed out, hard to edit and bland. At least the music was good. Don't get me started on the system graphics (lol), we'll be here all week.)
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Yeah, I loved having three layers in the MV trial. I've never really used XP, even though I have it. (I'll have to do a project in it one of these days.)

@Ratty: Another thing I think of is, that with two layers, you already have a lot of mapping errors that you miss on the first few play through. Oh my goodness, how about the mapping errors I'll have with three layers?
author=Liberty
...again, TileD plugin for MV is miles above XP. Not exactly user friendly (but then neither was XP, so)

Basically you import chipsets (any sizes) and make your own layers (any amount).

That makes me wish we could use the software Tiled with it. Anyway I'm on VXAce so i'm boned
You can always just use Tiled to make the different layers, export each layer as different images and then use Modern Algebra's Fix Picture to Map script to apply them (since it allows for picture manipulation on the z-plane, meaning that you can have a picture between A and B sheets or have a few between Parallax and ground layers and the like).
Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
12986
author=Liberty
...again, TileD plugin for MV is miles above XP. Not exactly user friendly (but then neither was XP, so)

Basically you import chipsets (any sizes) and make your own layers (any amount).

I don't think it really helps the argument against XP in the sense that you can add just about any plugin/custom asset to any maker good. Hell, MV would be nothing more than VX Ace with performance issues without its plugins. It's better to compare makers by what they offer by default.
That's a bit like saying that Ace would be nothing more than 2k3 without Ruby - not quite true.

MV brings stuff to the table that Ace doesn't outside of scripting, and vice-versa.
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