IS IT WRONG TO DO THIS?

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I dunno which one is RPG Maker 2003, XP, or VX related! lol
author=GX2Productions
Yeah I haven't been able to find many good chipsets. Everybody sends me to Charas Project and I can never find what I really want in there, unfortunately.

You can't find what you want at Charas Project? If I don't find ANYTHING there, I just quit lookin' :3 Meanwhile, if your looking for someone to help you with your games:
author=GX2Productions
Well the game I downloaded that I was looking at did have credits in the folder, referring to what project the chipsets belonged to. So I may reuse those and just give the same credit to the people who made them in notepad when I release a game. That's if credit was actually given...

I do hope to one day make a RPG that is based off my story epic. But I already know that I am gonna need custom chipsets to do it cause the story is just damn epic as hell. I wonder if during my time here, I will find somebody who will be willing to lend me a hand.


I'M YOUR BOY!
K-hos
whoa You guys are hi-chaining without me? That's just not right. :<
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author=chana
author=LockeZ
Drawing and pixelling have pretty much nothing in common!
Just want to mark out this.


They have very much in common, for example; composition, color theory, attention to detail and so on.
author=Khos
author=chana
author=LockeZ
Drawing and pixelling have pretty much nothing in common!
Just want to mark out this.
They have very much in common, for example; composition, color theory, attention to detail and so on.

Yeah I was only able to teach myself to sprite because I knew a thing or two about drawing/painting. OTL
author=emmych
Yeah I was only able to teach myself to sprite because I knew a thing or two about drawing/painting. OTL


Yeah unfortunately, I've never been the artist. I can develop games and in a way build my own maps using other chipsets. But when it comes to drawing, I can never draw. I tried on several occasions and always ended up failing cause I just don't KNOW HOW TO DRAW! XD

author=pyrodoom
I'M YOUR BOY!


I will hold you up to that my boy.
I started by editing pre-existing sprites and tiles. I'd never been good at drawing or pixelling of any kind and now I can pump out pimped up tiles and characters at a decent enough pace. Time, effort and practice are the greatest teachers.
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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author=emmych
Yeah I was only able to teach myself to sprite because I knew a thing or two about drawing/painting.

What I meant is the methods to arrive at something that looks like something are entirely different : there are no lines in spriting wheras they're basic in drawing. I myself cannot sprite, I need to draw lines to achieve something.
K-hos
whoa You guys are hi-chaining without me? That's just not right. :<
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author=chana
author=emmych
Yeah I was only able to teach myself to sprite because I knew a thing or two about drawing/painting.
What I meant is the methods to arrive at something that looks like something are entirely different : there are no lines in spriting wheras they're basic in drawing. I myself cannot sprite, I need to draw lines to achieve something.


That happens to be exactly how I pixel. :T
chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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Ah, then I really don't know a thing about pixelling...
Well I sent the guy who made the game a message. No message back in 4 days. Jeeze. What now? lol

Also don't answer that question... I'm only being sarcastic.
If you're going to take other peoples work/resources then either ask them or credit them. My personal opinion is this, if you're not profiting off of someone else's resources, you can go ahead and use them anyway. Regardless, I would still consider giving credit to the author.
K-hos
whoa You guys are hi-chaining without me? That's just not right. :<
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author=DarklordKeinor
If you're going to take other peoples work/resources then either ask them or credit them. My personal opinion is this, if you're not profiting off of someone else's resources, you can go ahead and use them anyway. Regardless, I would still consider giving credit to the author.


This shouldn't be an or. And if you use other peoples work without asking then you're a dick.
It's no better than taking someones game, slapping your name on it and then calling it yours.
Ocean
Resident foodmonster
11991
My personal opinion is that you disregard DarklordKeinors personal opinion.
author=emmych
author=Khos
author=chana
author=LockeZ
Drawing and pixelling have pretty much nothing in common!
Just want to mark out this.
They have very much in common, for example; composition, color theory, attention to detail and so on.
Yeah I was only able to teach myself to sprite because I knew a thing or two about drawing/painting. OTL

Pixelling is like painting what are you saying lockez >:u

author=Khos
author=DarklordKeinor
If you're going to take other peoples work/resources then either ask them or credit them. My personal opinion is this, if you're not profiting off of someone else's resources, you can go ahead and use them anyway. Regardless, I would still consider giving credit to the author.
This shouldn't be an or. And if you use other peoples work without asking then you're a dick.
It's no better than taking someones game, slapping your name on it and then calling it yours.

Truth.
iddalai
RPG Maker 2k/2k3 for life, baby!!
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Khos
And if you use other peoples work without asking then you're a dick.
It's no better than taking someones game, slapping your name on it and then calling it yours.


I just got to say this, more than half of the people around here use rips from commercial games for their graphics. How is that any different from stealing away from non-commercial games? That's hypocrisy.

@GX2Productions regardless of my above statement, don't use anything from any maker game without asking for permission, if you don't get permission or a reply then tough luck. Look somewhere else, try searching images on google typing this: "the maker you use + chipsets" This way you'll find a lot of resource websites. Make sure to read their conditions though.

That said, I don't support any activity that steals the work of any fellow maker.
author=this guy
I just got to say this, more than half of the people around here use rips from commercial games for their graphics. How is that any different from stealing away from non-commercial games? That's hypocrisy.


Using graphics from long dead commercial games from megacorps that no longer make money off them =\= using graphics from an independent artist where its exceptionally easy to contact and ask permission from
Decky
I'm a dog pirate
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author=Feldschlacht IV
author=this guy
I just got to say this, more than half of the people around here use rips from commercial games for their graphics. How is that any different from stealing away from non-commercial games? That's hypocrisy.
Using graphics from long dead commercial games from megacorps that no longer make money off them =\= using graphics from an independent artist where its exceptionally easy to contact and ask permission from

This actually summarizes our stance perfectly. Mog has a way with words.
iddalai
RPG Maker 2k/2k3 for life, baby!!
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Feldschlacht IV
Using graphics from long dead commercial games from megacorps that no longer make money off them =\= using graphics from an independent artist where its exceptionally easy to contact and ask permission from


It's still hypocrisy.

I thought about including a small part in my previous post about how commercial games generate money and non-commercial games generally don't, since that's different and relates to megacorps. But since I'm talking about the moral similarity in these actions I ended up not doing it.
If one uses "graphics A" without permission then nothing should prevent one from using "graphics B", regardless of "graphics A" being from a commercial game and "graphics B" being from a non-commercial game.

Whether or not the commercial game is dead, the fact remains that an artist (or more) made the graphics. It's still stealing someone else's work.

I'm just pointing that out. As I said, I don't support any activity that steals the work of any fellow maker.
Hey, I gave my opinion and its quite fire forged and I don't see it being amended. I definitely disagree, though. The scale is much different.

Considering the nature of art and the hard truth that most art is based off some other art before it, and the amorphic nature of creativity and how art forms come about, this isn't a clear cut dry concept. Attaching the capitalistic, property based, modern grown, culturally copyright grained mindset of 'stealing someone else's stuff' to something as fluid and ancient as art is a fallacy to begin with, really.

By your logic, Andy Warhol is not an artist but a thief.
Sailerius
did someone say angels
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It's hypocrisy, but it's convenient so no one is going to change their ways. What's really pathetic is when the same people who use ripped graphics then accuses someone who uses their recolored Alex of stealing. It's never okay to steal someone else's work, commercial ou non.

If someone were to be taken to court for using rips and argued that "b-but SE isn't even profiting off it anymore!" they'd be laughed out of town and fined into poverty.
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