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author=Euphorian link=topic=1136.msg17445#msg17445 date=1211491705
...Actually, I liked the second Golden Sun better than a the first. There's just more... of everything. Which is good, because the first one was a bit short. Plus all the extra dungeons and such = <3
Also, Breath of Fire II was the first non pokemon/zelda RPG I played, and to this day is one of the few turn-based RPGs I can stand to play.
Katt's Devil form FT-uber-W
Huh, I thought BoF II had the worse Dragon system of them all. (BoF III was the best in terms of that but it was kind of boring otherwise)
author=Mr.Nemo link=topic=1136.msg17443#msg17443 date=1211491257author=brandonabley link=topic=1136.msg17086#msg17086 date=1211222461
Fallout 2
I think I'll tie between number one and two; the second game was indeed larger and more things to do, but the the first was... more epic and like... "we've been nuked back to tribal cavemen, lets hug".
Oh yeah Fallout 2 definitely wins in the lameness of premise category. The intro and the whole concept behind your character was just stupid. But I think that not only did it have more content than the first game, but it was better-designed. The areas each had tons of personality (New Reno, NCR, all of those places were super different). Also, I feel that conversations with characters were generally more memorable and better-written in Fallout 2.
But yeah both are amaaaaaaaaaaazing classic games.
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=1136.msg17483#msg17483 date=1211521105
Shockingly, I'm a big fan of the SaGa series, SaGa Frontier and Romancing SaGa in particular.
Well I think of the SaGa series as sort of like the fine wine or Messiean of jRPGs. They are really good games once you get past their decidedly acquired taste. I think of a lot of people rate them poorly because they are expecting a jRPG that does everything "right" by convention (SaGa intentionally does everything "wrong"). It's a huge million-selling series in Japan so somebody must be getting something right.
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=1136.msg17483#msg17483 date=1211521105
Shockingly, I'm a big fan of the SaGa series, SaGa Frontier and Romancing SaGa in particular.
Well I think of the SaGa series as sort of like the fine wine or Messiean of jRPGs. They are really good games once you get past their decidedly acquired taste. I think of a lot of people rate them poorly because they are expecting a jRPG that does everything "right" by convention (SaGa intentionally does everything "wrong"). It's a huge million-selling series in Japan so somebody must be getting something right.
One thing I've learned from the RPG Making scene, and the American RPG fanbase in general is that everyone here pretty much has the attention span of a fruit fly, so a lot of times their opinion isn't worth shit. I don't think they even really know what they want.
author=demondestiny link=topic=1136.msg17493#msg17493 date=1211530425author=WIP link=topic=1136.msg17408#msg17408 date=1211475761
Those who haven't played Crystalis (NES) should be smitten.
I agree very much with this. :)
Strange, not only have i not played it, Ive never even heard of it
Crystalis was an awesome adventure-RPG. Way better than Zelda, IMO. Man, 1997... Who'd have thought the world've gone to hell and then a tower would rise in the sky as a symbol of hope.
Breath of Fire 3 is probably my favorite RPG. Just so many elements to pull from right now. I just played it through again and I realized how short the dialog was -- but then I think about everything they accomplished, all of the amusement I had with it. And it does, by far, have one of the best dragon systems -- I just wish they didn't make you pay an "upkeep" to hold the form. Breath of Fire I was awesome for that. Put Ryu in Agni or Rudra and just go at it. Upkeep? What's that? Yeah, just auto-battle and have Ryu smite every damn guy on the screen. They need to be making BoF6 soon. I'm half-tempted to go put together a bunch of the themes they were using and give Capcom a storyline... Like they'd ever take it, blech.
I guess as a second favorite, I gotta admit Xenogears/FF7/FF10 have some awesome things. Xenogears for the crazy storyline. If you follow it all, I think it's probably one of the best story-telling games out there. I actually enjoyed this game -- even the second disc, which many claim sucked. FF7 has the best characters and theme in an RPG, for me. Cloud was always and will always be one of my favorite characters. FF10 had one of the most diverse themes from a FF. With it, they started an entirely new theme in the FF's. FF10 and 12 are VASTLY different in terms of story-themes and the like compared to the prior Final Fantasy. It's no longer about saving the world -- it's moreso that your characters are all developing and fighting for something different. Tidus just wanted to go home (and then stay -- oops). Van just wanted to avenge his brother and become a sky pirate. But you see how they advance and it's no longer "omg, kefka, I must kill you" or "omg, golbez, I must kill you" or "omg, exodes/exdeath, I must kill you," or "omg, edea/evil witch, I must kill you" or "omg, death/kuja, I must kill you." That is sadly, what you can summarize the FF's up to that point as. The characters are just bent on stoppign one person who is screwing the world. And while you could consider Sin the antagonist for FF10, it did continue on after it's defeat and the theme of acceptance and change are way different.
Anyway, that's way over my two cents. Anyone have some change for a $20?
Breath of Fire 3 is probably my favorite RPG. Just so many elements to pull from right now. I just played it through again and I realized how short the dialog was -- but then I think about everything they accomplished, all of the amusement I had with it. And it does, by far, have one of the best dragon systems -- I just wish they didn't make you pay an "upkeep" to hold the form. Breath of Fire I was awesome for that. Put Ryu in Agni or Rudra and just go at it. Upkeep? What's that? Yeah, just auto-battle and have Ryu smite every damn guy on the screen. They need to be making BoF6 soon. I'm half-tempted to go put together a bunch of the themes they were using and give Capcom a storyline... Like they'd ever take it, blech.
I guess as a second favorite, I gotta admit Xenogears/FF7/FF10 have some awesome things. Xenogears for the crazy storyline. If you follow it all, I think it's probably one of the best story-telling games out there. I actually enjoyed this game -- even the second disc, which many claim sucked. FF7 has the best characters and theme in an RPG, for me. Cloud was always and will always be one of my favorite characters. FF10 had one of the most diverse themes from a FF. With it, they started an entirely new theme in the FF's. FF10 and 12 are VASTLY different in terms of story-themes and the like compared to the prior Final Fantasy. It's no longer about saving the world -- it's moreso that your characters are all developing and fighting for something different. Tidus just wanted to go home (and then stay -- oops). Van just wanted to avenge his brother and become a sky pirate. But you see how they advance and it's no longer "omg, kefka, I must kill you" or "omg, golbez, I must kill you" or "omg, exodes/exdeath, I must kill you," or "omg, edea/evil witch, I must kill you" or "omg, death/kuja, I must kill you." That is sadly, what you can summarize the FF's up to that point as. The characters are just bent on stoppign one person who is screwing the world. And while you could consider Sin the antagonist for FF10, it did continue on after it's defeat and the theme of acceptance and change are way different.
Anyway, that's way over my two cents. Anyone have some change for a $20?
author=pantsman9 link=topic=1136.msg17724#msg17724 date=1211740835author=demondestiny link=topic=1136.msg17493#msg17493 date=1211530425author=WIP link=topic=1136.msg17408#msg17408 date=1211475761
Those who haven't played Crystalis (NES) should be smitten.
I agree very much with this. :)
Strange, not only have i not played it, Ive never even heard of it
Yeah it was a good game but i don't think i could say it is better than the awesometasticness that zelda games bring to everyone. :P
author=Darken link=topic=1136.msg16973#msg16973 date=1211073880
Really hope this is a joke thread since 90% of the people here said ff7. As for my favourite game I can only make a list rather then just ONE.
You don't get edgy points for disliking FF7. I thought it was a lot of fun and enjoyed it bunches.
FF7 is pretty fun. It's a very solid game, especially for it's time. A lot of its fans give it a bad name, though.
author=Gaius Mooglus Augustus IV link=topic=1136.msg17951#msg17951 date=1211927216Not just the fans but Square-enix pretty much thought "Hey lets fuck over our most prestigious game in our series and not give them a remake which is all they wanted, because we care!"
FF7 is pretty fun. It's a very solid game, especially for it's time. A lot of its fans give it a bad name, though.
To get back on topic I would say my favorite game(s) this gen would probably be..
Grand Theft Auto IV - This game is so good on so many levels, I cant get enough of it, it's so fucking fun and actually has such an engrossing story it took me by surprise, and easily some of the most memorable characters in any game this gen.
Portal - This game also kicks ass to much it should be a sin not to like it, I especially love the talking machine guns "That's okay, I don't blame you" haha, Valve are the fucking shit man, Half Life 2 then Portal and (I don't know if it's out) their new zombie game Left 4 Dead also looks amazing.
@Tau: No, it's more like "hey, it's a cash cow; they'll play anything we make that's got either Cloud or Sephy in it." It's like the silly side games of Pokémon they keep on making -- "it's Pokémon, so it must be good!" *insert snorting noise here*
You know, I can't think of one game that I'd rate above all the others I've played. Sure I've played bad games, but I haven't played anything that I'd want to play over and over again, like a favorite. I'd have to make a list, like Darken.
Personal favorites, though, include:
You know, I can't think of one game that I'd rate above all the others I've played. Sure I've played bad games, but I haven't played anything that I'd want to play over and over again, like a favorite. I'd have to make a list, like Darken.
Personal favorites, though, include:
- Golden Sun/GS: The Lost Age
Final Fantasy IX
Tales of the Abyss
Metroid Zero Mission (sequence breaking is tough :x)
Pokémon Crystal (I'd play it more often if the battery wasn't dry)
Secret of Mana
Ninja Gaiden (the NES one, no matter how brutal it is; I have to keep playing till I beat it perfectly)
I currently I have five favorite games.
They include:
-Star Ocean 2 (Beaten 3 times)
-Final Fantasy IX (Beaten once; On second playthrough)
-Rouge Galaxy (On First Playthrough)
-Super Smash (Series) (Currently effing up the competition with Ike)
-Tekken (Series) (Sweeping the floor with Hwoarang.)
All of these games have taken over my life at some point.
And I follow every one of their series respectively.
~Sion
They include:
-Star Ocean 2 (Beaten 3 times)
-Final Fantasy IX (Beaten once; On second playthrough)
-Rouge Galaxy (On First Playthrough)
-Super Smash (Series) (Currently effing up the competition with Ike)
-Tekken (Series) (Sweeping the floor with Hwoarang.)
All of these games have taken over my life at some point.
And I follow every one of their series respectively.
~Sion
Well. Most of my favorites will be a bit odd/obscure compared to most of you guys.
- Castlevania: SotN
- Valkyrie Profile
- Jets n' Guns
- Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
- Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
- Phantasy Star 4
- Tactics Ogre
- Gunstar Heroes (really, any game by Treasure pretty much hits the spot. Dynamite Heady is another good examples)
- Tyrian
There's many others, but whatever.
- Castlevania: SotN
- Valkyrie Profile
- Jets n' Guns
- Persona 2: Eternal Punishment
- Shin Megami Tensei: Nocturne
- Phantasy Star 4
- Tactics Ogre
- Gunstar Heroes (really, any game by Treasure pretty much hits the spot. Dynamite Heady is another good examples)
- Tyrian
There's many others, but whatever.
author=King Karsuman the Wise link=topic=1136.msg18005#msg18005 date=1211952267Agrghrhg how did I forget this game. It's easily one of my favorite games ever.
- Phantasy Star 4
Oh yeah, I played Crystalis on the Gameboy Color a long time ago. That game really was pretty neat, it's sad there wasn't a sequel to it. That game and Alundra really are better than almost any game in its genre.
author=King Karsuman the Wise link=topic=1136.msg18005#msg18005 date=1211952267
- Tyrian
Totally forgot about Tyrian.
with it's awesome soundtrack
author=Neophyte link=topic=1136.msg18016#msg18016 date=1211960407
Agrghrhg how did I forget this game. It's easily one of my favorite games ever.
Oh yeah, I played Crystalis on the Gameboy Color a long time ago. That game really was pretty neat, it's sad there wasn't a sequel to it.
Cue WIP: ARGH GAMEBOY VERSION IS INFERIOR IT HAS 1 FPS LOWER
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