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THE DIRECTION OF RPG MAKER COMMUNITY

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author=Lotus_Games
One more thing I want to add is that I know just how vulnerable it is to work on something so hard just to have it ripped apart so to those new to the scene here or to those young and impressionable who may be reading this... I want to say, try you're best and don't be afraid to show others your hard work. You should feel proud of your accomplishments and know you'll always have people like myself and many many others on this site alone who will encourage you and support you =]


This is such a great message to send to any new RM'er. If you show a genuine interest in improving, there are plenty of great people here eager to help you out.
author=LockeZ
author=Dyhalto
author=Instinct
The day I made this thread, every single one of you branded me. And will have nothing good to say about me for a long time to come.
Nah, we have short memories. The vast majority of us are more interested in RMing than judging each other.
I think.
Who are you again?

Someone who has seen all of your predictable one-liner responses before. You, LockeZ... single-handedly epitomized GamingWorld.

Example:
Original sender: "Please do not hit 'reply all' to this email"
LockeZ: *uses reply all and says:* "Ok, I won't hit 'reply all'"

It's that kind of predictable response that you do. Just... stop man.

@Lotus_Games: Your last post above is right on the money. Your post before that...way off base because you didn't continue to read.

@Dyhalto:
Nah, we have short memories. The vast majority of us are more interested in RMing than judging each other.
I think.
YOU may be like that. Some people enjoy pointing out flaws more than they do working on their games. It puts them on a pedestal. It is a giant sign that says, "Hey, I know my shit!" You can deny this. You can try at least. But I've seen it oh so many times. You can come up with justifiable-BS on how this is inaccurate. But it is oh so very true.

EDIT:

You know, in retrospect... this place is NOT worse than Gaming World... if compared to Gaming World at it's peak. But... it's pretty comparable to GW when GW was starting up and people were learning RM, and Bart was still relying on the RM community as a whole to jump start his "empire" before they decided to renounce it.

I may not have approached my message in the best way... but damn near ALL of the responses in this thread is a carbon copy of the early days of GW. If any of you remember that, you would know this. Granted I started it... but the retaliation is the same. It was no "turn the other cheek"... it was a dead replica. Yeah, you push people they push back.

So... Maybe we are ALL really just the same shit all over again... regardless of how hard we try to state we are better than the ones who came before. Maybe GW was normal after all judging by how this all turned out?
I'm not even sure that the problem is WHAT you are saying, but rather how you say it, or the perceived attitude you say it with.

The GW paradigm turned into "be a dick for dickness' sake." Here, the general rule seems to be "Act like a dick and get treated like one."

When someone criticizes your work, it is not healthy to delete the files and generate a rage topic about how much the place sucks just because it doesn't get you.

The trick is to take your work seriously, without taking yourself too seriously.
author=Killer Wolf
When someone criticizes your work, it is not healthy to delete the files and generate a rage topic about how much the place sucks just because it doesn't get you.

#1: I have not received a single criticism on my work at this website. So whatever it is you are implying is failing to connect.

#2: There is no rage topic, this begs me to thank you for reinforcing my earlier point about people posting without reading what they are jumping into. So... thank you.

As for this:
"Act like a dick and get treated like one."

It's ironic that I've seen that same response before... guess where?
author=Instinct
YOU may be like that. Some people enjoy pointing out flaws more than they do working on their games. It puts them on a pedestal. It is a giant sign that says, "Hey, I know my shit!" You can deny this. You can try at least. But I've seen it oh so many times. You can come up with justifiable-BS on how this is inaccurate. But it is oh so very true.
This is a completely baseless accusation.
I completely agree with you regarding people who nitpick the tiniest of visuals. But I accredit it to people wanting to say something besides "looks good, man". Nobody wants to be the putz who says "i agree", so they try to flavor their thoughts. I'm guilty of this too. Look at what I stupidly said to Liberty's awesome spriting job Dx.
As someone whose been here for ~2 years now, there's no malice or jealousy behind anybody's nitpicking. We just look at a screenshot, and only see it as a sole item without remembering that it's part of a big picture.

edit : Oh, what I originally meant was : A week from now, after this thread's been locked, and we're all doing our own RM thing, nobody will remember that you were picking fights anybody who would bite. You'll post a gamepage and some screenshots, people will muddle in and say "looks good man... but you missed a spot". You'll either shrug it off or obsess over it like I do. Life will go on.
author=Dyhalto
This is a completely baseless accusation.
What's "baseless" is your statement that it is baseless. Because I HAVE seen it. And you stating that you agree about people nitpicking, and stating that the above is "baseless" as if you haven't seen it as well... do not mesh together very well.

author=Dyhalto
As someone whose been here for ~2 years now, there's no malice or jealousy behind anybody's nitpicking.
There is no jealousy. There is no malice. It is most likely one unconsciously. But that does not take away from the fact that it is there. So that point is irrelevant.

author=Dyhalto
We just look at a screenshot, and only see it as a sole item without remembering that it's part of a big picture.
Perhaps we shouldn't do that?

You say that people simply judge by what they see, without realizing it's part of a bigger picture. Perhaps I'm doing the same thing... I'm judging the way people are judging. I only see it the way it is presented... and not seeing all of the "I only meant to help" motives that lies beneath.

I mean, I am, afterall, criticizing SOMETHING, right? Why is it that you can criticize someone's hard work so harshly, and I cannot criticize the way you criticize?

author=Dyhalto
edit : Oh, what I originally meant was : A week from now, after this thread's been locked, and we're all doing our own RM thing, nobody will remember that you were picking fights anybody who would bite. You'll post a gamepage and some screenshots, people will muddle in and say "looks good man... but you missed a spot". You'll either shrug it off or obsess over it like I do. Life will go on.
And no, that's not how it works. People remember. The fact that you bothered to post your thoughts here shows it is something that stirred a portion of your brain. Nobody says "Hey, I don't give a crap, therefore I will take the time to tell you so" and actually mean it. What you just attempted there was already attempted 2 or three times above your post... I simply did not point it out. You know this is ACTUALLY studied in Social Economics? People do it, without realizing that others are keen on the fact that they are doing it. In a nutshell, it is a subtle way of stating how inconsequential the other person is to you.

You are just failing left and right. Stop.
author=Instinct
author=Killer Wolf
When someone criticizes your work, it is not healthy to delete the files and generate a rage topic about how much the place sucks just because it doesn't get you.
#1: I have not received a single criticism on my work at this website. So whatever it is you are implying is failing to connect.

Okay, so you just deleted the files implied by that now empty post in the screenshot topic to be avant garde.

author=Instinct




#2: There is no rage topic, this begs me to thank you for reinforcing my earlier point about people posting without reading what they are jumping into. So... thank you.

No, you get to speak your mind, but when anyone else does the same you accuse them of fitting into a specific pattern "Just like GW".

As for this:
"Act like a dick and get treated like one."

It's ironic that I've seen that same response before... guess where?

Everywhere in the world, outside of congress?
I still don't see what is the point of this topic, really. If you really wanna see change, you have to take action, not just saying words here and there.

Anyway, this topic will be locked sooner or later. I see no point in this.

All I can say this, you're overreacting.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
As for this:
"Act like a dick and get treated like one."

It's ironic that I've seen that same response before... guess where?

I dunno where else, but I can see a common thread. The common thread is that you were the person all these places were saying it to. If you've experienced a pattern of people calling you a dick in different settings, maybe you should try to figure out why so many people feel that way about you.

author=Instinct
author=Killer Wolf
When someone criticizes your work, it is not healthy to delete the files and generate a rage topic about how much the place sucks just because it doesn't get you.
#1: I have not received a single criticism on my work at this website. So whatever it is you are implying is failing to connect.
Uh, he was implying that when you were accusing us of being elitist contrarians, you actually had a reason for doing so, however flimsy. If you haven't received any criticism, then your entire argument is invalid, and you are definitely NOT arguing in good faith. If you are now admitting you came here to accuse us of something that YOU KNOW WE HAVE NEVER DONE TO YOU, then... that means your only goal is to sow discord and hatred within our community, and I hope you get a lifetime ban for it.
author=Killer Wolf
Okay, so you just deleted the files implied by that now empty post in the screenshot topic to be avant garde.

You are trying to get me to defend it... but I see no need. Because the better question is... why don't you show me a post by ANYONE that bashed my screenshots, that could possibly prompt me to go on a rampage and cause me to delete my screenshots. Show me just ONE. Just ONE.

You are attempting to drive this to a certain direction. Sorry, I'm not biting.

author=LockeZ
The common thread is that you were the person all these places were saying it to.
Please post a link to where people are saying this to ME. I observed them, they were never directed to me. And if you were paying attention, in my original post I stated "I feel it is my turn"... can you piece that together?

author=LockeZ
If you've experienced a pattern of people calling you a dick in different settings, maybe you should try to figure out why so many people feel that way about you.

Quote any spot in this thread where i stated these things were said to ME before. And pay attention to the time stamps so you can be sure none of them were edited after the fact. Try again, LockeZ.

You can keep trying. You will keep failing up to the point this thread is locked.
author=Instinct
author=Dyhalto
We just look at a screenshot, and only see it as a sole item without remembering that it's part of a big picture.
Perhaps we shouldn't do that?

Why not? You're evaluating a screen, a frozen in time fraction of a whole, not the entire game. That's why it's called the screenshot topic. And if you don't like it just don't post in there! -Caution- I'm not chasing you away from the community, I'm just saying that there are places and places for things... What you want is a review. Anyone writing a review (Or otherwise giving general feedback to a game) will push aside the nitpicking and focus on the things they think are important, and they'll do it to the best of their abilities. The End.

Edit: And just so you know, LockeZ is a terrific guy. (That just needed to be said)
Your perception is your reality. If you think this topic is winning you any points, then more power to you. Whatever you need.

If you want to see what this site is really like, what it is like to be a member of this community, than please contribute something other than hot air and see where that gets you.

Otherwise, just take pleasure in everyone else who steps up to shoot you down. Since they don't agree with you, obviously you must be right... so just go ahead and bask in your circular logic as you stare into your computer screen while stroking your... ahem... ego.

Goodnight, pal... and good luck.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Uh. If you're the only one as far as you know who doesn't appreciate something, and no one's done it to you... then you have no reason to complain about it. The only possible reason to complain about people you don't know helping other people you don't know in a way you wouldn't personally like if it were you is to be a dick.

author=Instinct
You guys can all keep coming. You will all keep failing up to the point this thread is locked.
See, now you admit you're just trying to start fights.
I hate it when people showcase their egos all around. Ego will get you nowhere.
Why are political or religious debate topics locked immediately, while this mud-slinging shitfest is allowed to rage on for 6 pages?

author=Instinct
And no, that's not how it works. People remember.

You're rating yourself pretty highly if you think anybody will see you in a thread a week from now and think "it's that lousy guy from before". I'm telling you that it isn't the way it works. Yes, we're engaged in a heated discussion here and now, in this thread, but in the Screenshots thread, nobody's going to call you out. You can even go try it right now.

Anyway, you seem to be more interested in bickering for bickering's sake.
Also, drop the social economical political biology, brain-surgeon-by-night act. You're not smart. You're just a troll.
author=LockeZ
Uh. If you're the only one as far as you know who doesn't appreciate something, and no one's done it to you... then you have no reason to complain about it.


Incorrect. It doesn't have to be done to ME... for me not to appreciate it. I don't appreciate it when elitist pricks bash those who are too meek to speak for themselves... and end up never allowing their work to see the light of day because they are too afraid of what bashing they might receive.

author=LockeZ
The only possible reason to complain about people you don't know helping other people you don't know in a way you wouldn't personally like if it were you is to be a dick.


Incorrect. If I see people nitpicking something unnecessarily.. I don't have to be a dick to say something about it. But I CAN be a dick in the way I go about it.

As stated... act like one, get treated like one, right? Touche!

Like I said, you can keep trying if you want.
author=Dyhalto
You're rating yourself pretty highly if you think anybody will see you in a thread a week from now and think "it's that lousy guy from before".


Wrong. Rather I'm banking on the fact that people don't have memories THAT bad to forget to easily. If you forget about this whole situation by...3 days from now... I would suggest seeing a doctor because it could be life threatening. It could be a brain tumor.

author=Dyhalto
Yes, we're engaged in a heated discussion here and now, in this thread, but in the Screenshots thread, nobody's going to call you out.


But that's irrelevant. Besides, whether anyone will remember this topic or not in a week's time was never the point of this thread. You are now trying to prove a point that is inconsequential, and was never really in my interest to defend. So, for purpose of putting things back on track... fine, you win. Nobody will remember this thread. There, that's done. Now... having won that discussion. Do you now see that it has absolutely NO bearing on this discussion?

author=Dyhalto
Anyway, you seem to be more interested in bickering for bickering's sake.


For as long as you respond, you have no room to maneuver and get away with that statement. Stop responding to me, and I stop responding to you. It's really quite that simple.

author=Dyhalto
Also, drop the social economical political biology, brain-surgeon-by-night act. You're not smart. You're just a troll.


Another baseless fact. As much as I detest your responses, I dare admit that I do NOT know you, and I have no idea how smart you are in real life. I give you the benefit of the doubt. Why? Because I extend you the courtesy you have not given me even a modicum of. Perhaps I don't deserve it... but that's irrelevant, because I extend it to you anyway.

Keep trying.
Decky
I'm a dog pirate
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This topic is turning into mudslinging, digging up old grudges, etc. Time to close it.
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