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YOU LET'S PLAYERS ARE DOING IT WRONG
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eplipswich
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eplipswich
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CloseActually, I think there's a major problem with Let's Plays, and it's that they reveal spoilers. Let's Tries are okay so long as the ones doing the Let's Tries don't go too far into the games.
That's why I, as a player, only watch LPs after I've completed the respective games to see how well the players doing the LPs fare, and probably both LPs and LTs to have a brief idea of what the game is about. But for the latter, I usually just determine whether I would play the games by the game pages, screenshots, and the hype. Then I'll just download, and if it's entertaining, I'll continue. If not, it's down the trash.
That's why I, as a player, only watch LPs after I've completed the respective games to see how well the players doing the LPs fare, and probably both LPs and LTs to have a brief idea of what the game is about. But for the latter, I usually just determine whether I would play the games by the game pages, screenshots, and the hype. Then I'll just download, and if it's entertaining, I'll continue. If not, it's down the trash.
the actual reason that most "lets try" or "lets play" people are 'doin it wrong' is that 99 percent of them are extraordinarly unfunny and boring in every possible way. they usually voice each character and probably murder children too i dunno
I bought a lot of commercial games that I normally wouldn't have because I'd watched LPs of them and wanted to play them for myself. I also enjoy watching LPs of games I've already played and seeing the players' reaction to certain parts - especially if they go in blind.
Not saying that I don't like screenshot LPs (which I consider a different category); I do, but they usually aren't as fun unless the person doing them is talented at writing, making jokes or Role Playing. Everyone can talk and it's a skill that is easily enhanced by doing more of - with writing you have rules to follow.
My own LPs and LTs are, I like to think, fun to watch. They're definitely quite fun to do, too, which is another reason I like video versions over screenshots: I have more fun playing the game than taking screens. I've tried both versions and the screenshot versions can be harder since sometimes you miss screenshotting something that could have been great to show. With Live LPing your reactions are there, on record.
Not saying that I don't like screenshot LPs (which I consider a different category); I do, but they usually aren't as fun unless the person doing them is talented at writing, making jokes or Role Playing. Everyone can talk and it's a skill that is easily enhanced by doing more of - with writing you have rules to follow.
My own LPs and LTs are, I like to think, fun to watch. They're definitely quite fun to do, too, which is another reason I like video versions over screenshots: I have more fun playing the game than taking screens. I've tried both versions and the screenshot versions can be harder since sometimes you miss screenshotting something that could have been great to show. With Live LPing your reactions are there, on record.
UPRC
5516
Another great aspect of LP/LT videos is that I personally find them to provide MUCH better feedback than what someone writes in a post/review. Sure text-based feedback is very helpful too, but videos allow you to see where errors are, or to get a better visual idea of what the player doesn't like. This is why I really enjoy Clareain_Christopher's Blackmoon Prophecy LP videos. When he encounters something fishy or simply experiences something he doesn't like, I can see it at that very moment so I know precisely what he is taking issue with. As a result, I've made several refinements to the game that I wouldn't have if I hadn't actually SEEN the problems from another person's perspective.
Screenshot LPs/LTs can sort of capture the same thing, but not to the same extent. Some problems may exist with animations, fast moving events, or some other thing that can't be captured accurately in screenshot form.
This is why I will always prefer videos. They have two huge advantages over screenshots in the form of the LPer being able to express themselves better, and they are able to show off what they don't like in a more accurate way.
Screenshot LPs/LTs can sort of capture the same thing, but not to the same extent. Some problems may exist with animations, fast moving events, or some other thing that can't be captured accurately in screenshot form.
This is why I will always prefer videos. They have two huge advantages over screenshots in the form of the LPer being able to express themselves better, and they are able to show off what they don't like in a more accurate way.
ivoryjones
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I don't normally watch LPs because tbh, most of them are pretty boring unless they're from sluv.
UPRC
5516
author=ivoryjones
I don't normally watch LPs because tbh, most of them are pretty boring unless they're from sluv.
I'm kind of the same way and am unlikely to watch an LP unless it's a game I'm very interested in, OR when it's an LP of my own game.
LPs of your own game are fun to watch and are frequently very rewarding.
This is why I really enjoy Clareain_Christopher's Blackmoon Prophecy LP videos.
This! I agree with UPRC on this one. The videos are extremely helpful, even if it isn't the LPer who points something out, you might notice it and think "hmm, I could do better or I should change that"
Of course, this is for an LP of your own game, because I don't watch a lot of of LP videos unless I like the game already or like the person doing them.
UPRC
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author=Gamesfreak13563
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
Where are OUR abominations? Where are our bad LPs and why are they so bad? You're not even saying WHY RMN's LPs are bad. Could you at least do that? As it stands now, it just looks like you're ridiculing the content of the community because... well, why!? The one that you linked to doesn't even appear to be from RMN, so what's your beef?
eplipswich
2728
author=Gamesfreak13563
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
Sorry, but you are way too vague. Could you at least elaborate what you are saying? One-liners are not gonna get you anywhere. And don't assume everyone knows what you're talking about, because I don't. That video proves nothing.
What the heck is SSLPs, anyway?
author=eplipswichScreenshot Let's Plays.author=Gamesfreak13563Sorry, but you are way too vague. Could you at least elaborate what you are saying? One-liners are not gonna get you anywhere. And don't assume everyone knows what you're talking about, because I don't. That video proves nothing.
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
What the heck is SSLPs, anyway?
Anyway, that video isn't the fault of Let's Plays, but the fault of the creator. You can edit out a lot of stupid shit if need be.
SSLPs are no better than a normal Let's Play. It's all a matter of what YOU like to watch and/or listen to.
author=UPRCauthor=Gamesfreak13563Where are OUR abominations? Where are our bad LPs and why are they so bad? You're not even saying WHY RMN's LPs are bad. Could you at least do that? As it stands now, it just looks like you're ridiculing the content of the community because... well, why!? The one that you linked to doesn't even appear to be from RMN, so what's your beef?
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
http://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/10470/
emmych
817
author=Crazejust link the FF1 thief runUPRCobviously you have never read a brickroad or The Dark ID screenshot LP </LP Hipster>
Screenshot LPs are boring. I honestly just hit page down the whole way, stopping only to look at whatever screenshots look interesting.
Videos are much better because they expose you to the personality of the LPer, and they're able to convey their emotions and thoughts to a greater extent. There's also little room for misinterpretation on the part of the viewer (while it can be pretty easy at times to misinterpret something that a person writes).
http://lparchive.org/Drakengard/
http://lparchive.org/NIER/
http://scibbe.com/stash/suiko/
http://www.scibbe.com/stash/lpff1/
holy shit I was pissing myself the whole way through OTL
EDIT:
OR I COULD JUST LINK IT I GUESS</lazych>
Gamesfreak13563
1956
Nah, I ain't mad at NicoBay. He helped me fix stuff that I didn't know was broken.
I'm just sayin' you guys are doin' it wrong
Read the link in the OP
I wrote that
I'm just sayin' you guys are doin' it wrong
Read the link in the OP
I wrote that
There's this thing called editing. It's easy enough to do in the case of videos and you can cut whole bits of boring video out. I mean, seriously, you can edit out battles, backtracking and whatnot pretty easily and without fuss. >.<
Unless you're LTing, in which case you leave everything in as it's a critique and shows just what needs editing - is the encounter rate too high? Are monsters all the same/boring/too hard? Are areas too large to backtrack through time after time? Should shortcuts be added?
Also, if you're engaging enough you can make the most boring game seem fun. Seriously. Hell, get a friend in to help out. Make jokes or play some music. Sing or tell a story. There's a million ways to entertain. >.<;
Unless you're LTing, in which case you leave everything in as it's a critique and shows just what needs editing - is the encounter rate too high? Are monsters all the same/boring/too hard? Are areas too large to backtrack through time after time? Should shortcuts be added?
Also, if you're engaging enough you can make the most boring game seem fun. Seriously. Hell, get a friend in to help out. Make jokes or play some music. Sing or tell a story. There's a million ways to entertain. >.<;
UPRC
5516
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKauthor=UPRChttp://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/10470/author=Gamesfreak13563Where are OUR abominations? Where are our bad LPs and why are they so bad? You're not even saying WHY RMN's LPs are bad. Could you at least do that? As it stands now, it just looks like you're ridiculing the content of the community because... well, why!? The one that you linked to doesn't even appear to be from RMN, so what's your beef?
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
There's a problem with the link you posted. NicoB's LPs are actually pretty good.
author=UPRCauthor=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKThere's a problem with the link you posted. NicoB's LPs are actually pretty good.author=UPRChttp://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/10470/author=Gamesfreak13563Where are OUR abominations? Where are our bad LPs and why are they so bad? You're not even saying WHY RMN's LPs are bad. Could you at least do that? As it stands now, it just looks like you're ridiculing the content of the community because... well, why!? The one that you linked to doesn't even appear to be from RMN, so what's your beef?
you guys are missing the point
with SSLPs you don't get abominations like this
for a clown to wear. to the circus.
Fugue
154
"for a clown to wear. to the circus."
hahahahahahahaha
i'm sorry it's just....
is that actually an expression?
hahahahahahahaha
i'm sorry it's just....
is that actually an expression?
Shaboba
780
If you want to present serious criticism to LP-ers on how to improve what they're doing, that's one thing. But so far I haven't seen anything from people on the "doing it wrong" side besides bitter griping. Back to the drawing board, children.
