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I decided to move my computer to my bedroom, but instead of moving my current computer, I want to buy a new one. This will hopefully help me turn my bedroom into a place where I can do lots of stuff.

My big doubt right now is whether I should buy an ALL IN ONE computer, which are those computers that only have the screen, keyboard and mouse, and all the rest is stuffed behind the monitor. I found out they're not more expensive, and its pros are so obvious that I need to know if there are cons. Anyone has had experience with that?

Con: Less modular. It's more difficult to modify, remove, or add components.
unless your gaming and want to keep it up to date, I don't imagine having it modular is a concern. I would be more worried about the fact that it's a Dell xD
Caz
LET'SBIAN DO THIS.
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author=Link_2112
unless your gaming and want to keep it up to date, I don't imagine having it modular is a concern. I would be more worried about the fact that it's a Dell xD


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chana
(Socrates would certainly not contadict me!)
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What's wrong with Dell (gathering info here)?
Caz
LET'SBIAN DO THIS.
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They charge way too much for hardware they cut corners with, basically. I've had two desktops built by them in the past (lasted barely two years each) which were pretty terrible for the price. I then got a laptop from them, thinking it'd be different.. but nope. The keyboard fell apart pretty much instantly, and the monitor started to die after a year or so (both are sorta difficult to replace on a laptop). And they melt a lot. Other than that, I find they favour Intel graphics which in my experience is always terrible. Maybe there are people who've had good experiences with Dell, but I find it safer to avoid them and just build your own PC. It's cheaper, easier to replace parts and sorta fun in a weird way.
KingArthur
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An All-In-One computer is basically an oversized laptop, all the hardware is fixed in place and you will have an absolutely terrible time modifying or upgrading most of the hardware if it's even possible to do so at all. Plus, if for whatever reason your monitor dies or gets damaged then you can't simply replace it either.

As such, I would really suggest you look into ordinary desktops. Desktops are far more modular, easier and more economical to maintain, and generally have less issues to worry about.

Curious though, are you having an issue with space in your bedroom? Because the only reason I can think you'd grab an All-In-One would be because you simply don't have the space or practical means to place a desktop tower.
Just curious calunio, do you have a laptop?

And yeah, if you get an All-in-One desktop, you're going to have a hard time repairing it if the RAM/graphic card etc need replacement. Especially if you are into gaming, then All-in-one desktop is a no-no.

If you want, you can always get a small-sized CPU instead of the large one.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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Only thing brand name really does for you is give you customer support. Dell specializes in making weak computers and selling them cheap, but every major computer manufacturer makes some computers like that.

I will say that you'll have a hard time finding a decent computer in that kind of all-in-one setup. They don't cost any more, but they are pretty rare. Computers with good specs are also rare. Finding a computer with both good specs and a built-in monitor might be a monumental task. You may have to settle for getting a laptop instead.


Stuff that matters:

Operating System: Windows 7. If you're planning on playing games, or just doing basically anything other than browsing the web and using MS Office, Windows 8 is gonna have some hiccups for the first year or two. Drivers aren't gonna work quite right, performance will suffer because your software was all designed for Windows 7, and you'll get all the exciting new viruses. If you really want a Mac, buy a Windows computer and get someone to set up a dual boot for you, so that you can choose Windows or Mac each time you start up. Windows emulators are clever and hipsters like to claim that they solve all problems, but if you try to play The Witcher 2 through a Windows emulator you will regret it.

Processor: You probably want i3, i5 or i7. These are the good Intel processors that you can actually get in stores. The i7 is the best and will last you a very long time before it becomes obsolete, but the i3 is still good enough to play any modern game at full blast (assuming you have the right graphics card). There are better ones out there but you probably don't want to pay $4000 for a computer. Don't get less than an i3 if you want to play games. AMD processors are also an option but I know nothing about them.

RAM: You don't really need 8 GB of RAM for anything, but it's so cheap that it seems silly to get less. You might need it some day! Don't get less than 6 GB if you wanna play newer games. Don't get less than 4 GB if you wanna be able to run antivirus. This is the cheapest and easiest thing to upgrade later. You can upgrade your ram without being told how, even if you've never seen the inside of a computer before.

Graphics card/chip: One problem with all-in-one computers is the same as a problem with laptops: it's hard to find ones that have decent graphics chips. 90% of laptops have Intel graphics chips, which simply will not play games. I repeat that for emphasis: Do not get a computer with an Intel graphics chip. It will suck. The Intel 4 series of graphics chips, which are still being sold on computers, will not even play World of Warcraft, which is an 8 year old game! You need either an Nvidia or AMD graphics chip. If you get an AMD graphics chip, it's easy to figure out which ones to get - higher numbers are better. Not so for Nvidia! Here are some useful charts for Nvidia (hidden on their website) because their numbering system is utterly indecipherable:

Chart of 2011 Nvidia chips:


Chart of 2012 Nvidia chips:



Computers obviously have other parts besides those, but they don't matter. Processor, ram, and graphics chip are the ones that matter. And screen size, I guess.
KingArthur
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If you're feeling confident in your computer hardware knowledge and/or have a friend knowledgable with computers to help you, I too would also suggest actually buying the hardware (and operating system, probably some version of Windows 7) separately and then assembling them yourself. More often than not you'll end up with a much higher quality computer at a slightly lower price tag than if you had bought an equivalent PC off the shelf.

Plus, if you build your own computer you don't have to worry about the bajillions of bloatware that PC manufacturers put on their computers.
author=KingArthur
If you're feeling confident in your computer hardware knowledge and/or have a friend knowledgable with computers to help you, I too would also suggest actually buying the hardware (and operating system, probably some version of Windows 7) separately and then assembling them yourself. More often than not you'll end up with a much higher quality computer at a slightly lower price tag than if you had bought an equivalent PC off the shelf.

Plus, if you build your own computer you don't have to worry about the bajillions of bloatware that PC manufacturers put on their computers.


If they are the same price, id go with Windows 8.
KingArthur
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I would strongly advise against Windows 8 because of the hardware and software compatibility issues LockeZ already pointed out and the fact Metro is absolutely terrible to use on a desktop, touchscreen or not.
author=KingArthur
I would strongly advise against Windows 8 because of the hardware and software compatibility issues LockeZ already pointed out and the fact Metro is absolutely terrible to use on a desktop, touchscreen or not.


Yes metro is terrible, and you should use Start8 or ClassicShell. But the compatibility isnt actually that bad. Plus DX11.1. Actually, really just DX11.1. That .1 is so awesome.
KingArthur
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Classic Shell isn't an excuse for Windows 8's horrible idea to remove the start menu, but I digress; this topic isn't about discussing Windows 8 and it's peculiarities. Let's get back to the original subject at hand.
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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Also Windows 8 is bad for RPG Maker. Jus' sayin'
I just want to say that this topic was extremely helpful!
author=Skul_
Build one. Its like lego.

So if I built my own, I could mount guns on it?

...I'll go back in the corner now
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=emmych
author=Skul_
Build one. Its like lego.
So if I built my own, I could mount guns on it?

...I'll go back in the corner now

If you build it out of Kingdom Hearts gummi blocks, you can make the whole computer entirely out of guns
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