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author=obsorber
Exactly my point, you just offended every RPG Maker Developer on this website. No one asked you join the site if games like this don't give you the buzz you are looking for. Why the hell is a spammer like you on this forum? Just to SPAM???
Ao Oni didn't utilize systems to scare. It was a simple exploration puzzle horror that required critical thinking to complete. The game allowed the player to embrace fear through imagination rather than explanation and come to their own conclusion of the plot. Its not supposed to have an awesome story or system. You criticize a game that wasn't designed for such a purpose.
You are quite immature my friend.
My rant has nothing to do with what I like in horror, you are acting like a brat. You pick out a few words which annoy you and make bash comments that are worthless to the point of the explanation. So tell me, which are the poorly made horror games in RPG Maker?
I never even said I hate COD, you are a joke!
I have like how many COD games, must be about 4 of them so what are you on about!
1.You do realize there are other genres on this site right?
2.Your Ao rant is subjective not fact why are you screaming at him for it?
3.He's immature? How?
4.What is this....
5.You heavily implied you hated it.
author=jakandsigToo be honest I may have been offensive to you and stepped over the mark maybe a little too much but I didn't actually know you were a creative game developer considering your Profile has "no games". But maybe you are just a fake I don't know but that was my perspective and my mistake if I am wrong.
Then make a rant about 2d games (when 2.5 and semi-3D games are possible in RM) and then make an assumption that I hate 2D games when all the games I put on this site are 2D?
1. I know that, when did I say there weren't any other genres. I make RPGs as much as I make Horror. Anyone who has played my games will know that. I am definitely a game developer on this site.
2. No it is not a rant, it is a socially accepted fact among a wide majority that the game is now a "cult game" where many indie gamers widely accept, respect, enjoy and quote it as chilling and promising. I'm not screaming at him, just because you cry that people don't bone commercial games because indie games are becoming more and more widespread and loved. It seems that bothers you more than it bothers me.
3. He picked out points that were never even said in my comments. Did you even read my post or just jumped into a fight without your fists clenched. You yourself are promoting the idea of comments that were never stated.
4. What is what exactly?
5. I never implied I hated COD, that is your illusion, your fixed conflicting perspective which is completely false. If anything you implied that 2D games or RPG Maker games suck pretty much. There was no quote, no statement no suggestion that I hated COD in that post. Not one bit at all!
author=obsorber
I think its how the game utilizes the imagination of the player and how it draws them into the horror than the graphics itself. Most gamers now days aren't drawn into games period and don't use their imagination because they don't have to. They are drawn into flashy graphics and whatever the media tells them is awesome. COD and FIFA are typical examples of this. Although they are good games there are so many other diverse games of their type to choose from to adapt your imagination.
Doesn't say I hate Call of Duty it implies I like the game but acknowledge in this "new era" we don't have to use our imagination as gaming is so high tech now anyway. Let me explain that to you in more detail my mature friend. That means graphics look more realistic so we do not have to use our imagination as much. It doesn't bash that fact towards the majority, it just simply makes that statement. We live in a consumerist society so we buy whatever is regarded as the best to fit in rather than embrace freedom of choice. The quote above states they are good games not bad ones. You only hear what you want to hear, fact!
author=obsorberI didn't really make the assumption that you hate 2D games, I stated 2D games as an illustrative fact because RPG Maker uses a 2D Gaming Development Engine. By illustration doesn't necessarily mean that is what it means only. I was simply explaining to you that there are many of us who like classic style games/2d games and their "supposed poor graphic content" which to me is a style and not poor.
jakaandsig, dude if it bugs you so much then GTFO off RPG Maker sites no offence buddy. That's almost like saying the issue is that making real RPG Maker Games is like impossible if they are 2D which RPG Maker systems are currently based on classic style RPG development.
Once again like your fellow spammer buddy you pick out points that have no relevancy. You bicker and banter over nothing and you argue without reasoning and are quite ignorant. That is immature and answers your 3rd point.
author=mawkLoL Mawk, anybody who reads that post knows that is not a rant about my perspective on games. It is more of a description, an explanation and illustration about gaming in general and how you are putting your bias opinion in this forum expecting everyone to accept what you say because you are called mawk.
yeah, I am saying opinions. I'm calling games bad because they're poorly made, which I freely admit is a subjective sort of thing! unlike your multi-paragraph rant about what you like in horror and how much you hate call of duty and all of its fans and so on which is
as we all know
solid fact.
author=mawkFar more than your immature mind. You explain horror games as being scary. You don't look at the concept behind the game, the nature of it, the theme, the setting, the plot, the atmosphere, the effects just if it scares the player. Any game developer would agree this statement is ridiculous. It was games like these that inspired future games because these are old games. Although you may regard them as crap, classic gamers love them, people who played them at the time too and those games inspired later games. Thus statements such as these are immature, nuff said!
... also, did you seriously list Zombies Ate My Neighbours and Ghosts n' Goblins as serious horror games? do you... do you know what horror is?
obsorber I really think you should calm down. All jak made in his initial post is a vague statement and you ask him to GTFO?? What the hell is wrong with you? I know you said no offence, but still.
Take a chill pill, mate. And stop being so defensive/sensitive for a rather casual remark.
This is not your site, for your info. People are entitled to their opinions, and you do not have the right to be rude. You were incredibly rude in your previous topic to Adon and you were warned for that, and you still haven't learned from that? Learn to chill, mate.
You are of course still entitled to your arguments, but really, tone down that rudeness of yours.
EDIT: And no offence, but you are the immature one for calling people immature when they weren't even rude to begin with. Even if they have expressed a weak argument of something, have a lack of knowledge of something or are spouting nonsense, calling people immature just because of that is simply being immature.
Take a chill pill, mate. And stop being so defensive/sensitive for a rather casual remark.
This is not your site, for your info. People are entitled to their opinions, and you do not have the right to be rude. You were incredibly rude in your previous topic to Adon and you were warned for that, and you still haven't learned from that? Learn to chill, mate.
You are of course still entitled to your arguments, but really, tone down that rudeness of yours.
EDIT: And no offence, but you are the immature one for calling people immature when they weren't even rude to begin with. Even if they have expressed a weak argument of something, have a lack of knowledge of something or are spouting nonsense, calling people immature just because of that is simply being immature.
Alright. That will do. Let's get back on the subject, shall we? No more tossing around insults about peoples' intelligence and the like, please.
You did check Here and Now of Yesterday, right? Also, I can't remember the name, but there was this one horror game that actually made me jump a few times. I think it was one of Moon's games. Uh, that is, Newblack. Or it might not have been released. I can't remember.
Personally, I don't really get scared by any games. I mean, I played Amnesia and Slender and while I did have a few jumps, I was mostly giggling to pieces. Same with horror movies. Not easily scared by movies and games. ^.^;
You did check Here and Now of Yesterday, right? Also, I can't remember the name, but there was this one horror game that actually made me jump a few times. I think it was one of Moon's games. Uh, that is, Newblack. Or it might not have been released. I can't remember.
Personally, I don't really get scared by any games. I mean, I played Amnesia and Slender and while I did have a few jumps, I was mostly giggling to pieces. Same with horror movies. Not easily scared by movies and games. ^.^;
Rudeness, I never spoke of rudeness one bit at all. I was offended by their attitude in the forum. I only repaid offence with bleak offense. Correction I'm not being defensive or sensitive, if anything I'm being offensive. He stated its impossible to make "real horror games" with RMXP which I find quite offensive simply because he believes the editor isn't good enough and indie developers I'm assuming he's also implying aren't good enough. I'm an indie developer who takes pride in making my Horror and RPG Games. He doesn't even know what horror is in a game so he lacks the gaming maturity about that aspect period. I found that quite offensive, his remarks and his banter so I jokingly told him to GTFO not seriously which he took offence by. I actually guessed someone like him has the nerve to offend others but when the favor is returned they can't hack it themselves. What's offensive you ask?
Anyway the point of that rambling was to illustrate what horror actually is in video games. Not to bash other games. It was to explain the concept and use of it in games. They were describing horror games as merely something that scares the player or attempts to which I disagreed with and explained is not necessarily true as many others would also widely accept. It was also to explain it in relation to RPG Maker and the fact that many of us still like classical games so saying a game can't be a horror game because it's made to have that classical feeling is outright wrong! That's like me saying Celdran's Curse your RPG game Liberty because it uses a 2D engine and doesn't have "PS3 Ultimate Gaming" graphics is not a RPG because its not the next Oblivion.
Anyhows I haven't checked it out yet so I will look for a download later.
author=jakandsig
The issue is that it's virtually impossible to make a real horror games with rpgmaker, and people won't really take it seriously
Anyway the point of that rambling was to illustrate what horror actually is in video games. Not to bash other games. It was to explain the concept and use of it in games. They were describing horror games as merely something that scares the player or attempts to which I disagreed with and explained is not necessarily true as many others would also widely accept. It was also to explain it in relation to RPG Maker and the fact that many of us still like classical games so saying a game can't be a horror game because it's made to have that classical feeling is outright wrong! That's like me saying Celdran's Curse your RPG game Liberty because it uses a 2D engine and doesn't have "PS3 Ultimate Gaming" graphics is not a RPG because its not the next Oblivion.
Anyhows I haven't checked it out yet so I will look for a download later.
Well, in any case, just be careful not to screw up this topic of yours like you did before. If I must say, this is a pretty good and interesting topic. It wouldn't be wise/worthwhile for your topic to go astray just because of something you found offensive.
Anyhow, you may want to check out Backstage I and II by Max McGee. I have actually thought about posting those suggestions here but I'm not sure if you would consider them popular. If anything, you could say Backstage I and II have sort of become legacy games?
EDIT: And as for Taut: http://www.mediafire.com/?tvfwvxaixet1iwy I think you will need RPG Maker 2000 RTP for this.
Anyhow, you may want to check out Backstage I and II by Max McGee. I have actually thought about posting those suggestions here but I'm not sure if you would consider them popular. If anything, you could say Backstage I and II have sort of become legacy games?
EDIT: And as for Taut: http://www.mediafire.com/?tvfwvxaixet1iwy I think you will need RPG Maker 2000 RTP for this.
Please don't drag me into a debate that I have nothing to do with besides telling you all to cut it out. I understand why you were reacting but you were being offensive which brought out the defensive in others. Understandably, tone is harder to apply to written word than spoken so your joke flew over a few heads, including mine. Coupled with the other insults, it doesn't read nicely.
Whatever the case, drop it. I'd rather this didn't turn into some silly 'he said this' 'they said that' topic that I'd have to lock and send away. Thank you.
Also, if people want to explore whether 2D is a great medium for horror/other genre games, make a new topic about it instead of derailing this one.
Whatever the case, drop it. I'd rather this didn't turn into some silly 'he said this' 'they said that' topic that I'd have to lock and send away. Thank you.
Also, if people want to explore whether 2D is a great medium for horror/other genre games, make a new topic about it instead of derailing this one.
author=obsorberauthor=jakandsigToo be honest I may have been offensive to you and stepped over the mark maybe a little too much but I didn't actually know you were a creative game developer considering your Profile has "no games". But maybe you are just a fake I don't know but that was my perspective and my mistake if I am wrong.
Then make a rant about 2d games (when 2.5 and semi-3D games are possible in RM) and then make an assumption that I hate 2D games when all the games I put on this site are 2D?
1. I know that, when did I say there weren't any other genres. I make RPGs as much as I make Horror. Anyone who has played my games will know that. I am definitely a game developer on this site.
2. No it is not a rant, it is a socially accepted fact among a wide majority that the game is now a "cult game" where many indie gamers widely accept, respect, enjoy and quote it as chilling and promising. I'm not screaming at him, just because you cry that people don't bone commercial games because indie games are becoming more and more widespread and loved. It seems that bothers you more than it bothers me.
3. He picked out points that were never even said in my comments. Did you even read my post or just jumped into a fight without your fists clenched. You yourself are promoting the idea of comments that were never stated.
4. What is what exactly?
5. I never implied I hated COD, that is your illusion, your fixed conflicting perspective which is completely false. If anything you implied that 2D games or RPG Maker games suck pretty much. There was no quote, no statement no suggestion that I hated COD in that post. Not one bit at all!
author=obsorber
I think its how the game utilizes the imagination of the player and how it draws them into the horror than the graphics itself. Most gamers now days aren't drawn into games period and don't use their imagination because they don't have to. They are drawn into flashy graphics and whatever the media tells them is awesome. COD and FIFA are typical examples of this. Although they are good games there are so many other diverse games of their type to choose from to adapt your imagination.
Doesn't say I hate Call of Duty it implies I like the game but acknowledge in this "new era" we don't have to use our imagination as gaming is so high tech now anyway. Let me explain that to you in more detail my mature friend. That means graphics look more realistic so we do not have to use our imagination as much. It doesn't bash that fact towards the majority, it just simply makes that statement. We live in a consumerist society so we buy whatever is regarded as the best to fit in rather than embrace freedom of choice. The quote above states they are good games not bad ones. You only hear what you want to hear, fact!
author=obsorber
jakaandsig, dude if it bugs you so much then GTFO off RPG Maker sites no offence buddy. That's almost like saying the issue is that making real RPG Maker Games is like impossible if they are 2D which RPG Maker systems are currently based on classic style RPG development.
I didn't really make the assumption that you hate 2D games, I stated 2D games as an illustrative fact because RPG Maker uses a 2D Gaming Development Engine. By illustration doesn't necessarily mean that is what it means only. I was simply explaining to you that there are many of us who like classic style games/2d games and their "supposed poor graphic content" which to me is a style and not poor.
Once again like your fellow spammer buddy you pick out points that have no relevancy. You bicker and banter over nothing and you argue without reasoning and are quite ignorant. That is immature and answers your 3rd point.
author=mawk
yeah, I am saying opinions. I'm calling games bad because they're poorly made, which I freely admit is a subjective sort of thing! unlike your multi-paragraph rant about what you like in horror and how much you hate call of duty and all of its fans and so on which is
as we all know
solid fact.
LoL Mawk, anybody who reads that post knows that is not a rant about my perspective on games. It is more of a description, an explanation and illustration about gaming in general and how you are putting your bias opinion in this forum expecting everyone to accept what you say because you are called mawk.
author=mawk
... also, did you seriously list Zombies Ate My Neighbours and Ghosts n' Goblins as serious horror games? do you... do you know what horror is?
Far more than your immature mind. You explain horror games as being scary. You don't look at the concept behind the game, the nature of it, the theme, the setting, the plot, the atmosphere, the effects just if it scares the player. Any game developer would agree this statement is ridiculous. It was games like these that inspired future games because these are old games. Although you may regard them as crap, classic gamers love them, people who played them at the time too and those games inspired later games. Thus statements such as these are immature, nuff said!
1. I have games, and they are on the site, but I have to resubmit them to to an issue.
2.Widely known games have cults? Either way you missed the point.
3.I think you failed to realize you jumped into one of my posts went nuts and assumed things with words I never said.
4.I am asking you.
5.You literally have the words :"They are drawn into flashy graphics and whatever the media tells them is awesome. COD and FIFA are typical examples of this. " Meaning you implied it and taking in the whole context you caled them unimaginative anyway and stated that most gamers have no imagination and play games like COD, so either way you are not helping yourself.
author=Liberty
Please don't drag me into a debate that I have nothing to do with besides telling you all to cut it out. I understand why you were reacting but you were being offensive which brought out the defensive in others. Understandably, tone is harder to apply to written word than spoken so your joke flew over a few heads, including mine. Coupled with the other insults, it doesn't read nicely.
Whatever the case, drop it. I'd rather this didn't turn into some silly 'he said this' 'they said that' topic that I'd have to lock and send away. Thank you.
Also, if people want to explore whether 2D is a great medium for horror/other genre games, make a new topic about it instead of derailing this one.
How can you understand how he reacted the whole thing started with me saying this: "The issue is that it's virtually impossible to make a real horror games with rpgmaker, and people won't really take it seriously"
Which after he posted a long rant of unrelated nonsense and insults, and put words that I never said in his rant of nonsense making assumptions, also of nonsense.
User was warned for this post
No, seriously, can we stop this? If you still want to argue, you can, but do it via PM. Don't derail the topic.
Liberty has asked all to drop it/cut it out. Don't disrespect her.
(Even Mawk has apparently stayed out of this. So I advise that everyone else does.)
Liberty has asked all to drop it/cut it out. Don't disrespect her.
(Even Mawk has apparently stayed out of this. So I advise that everyone else does.)
















