FANBOYS IN GENERAL, IRRITATE ME TO NO END

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author=Jparker1984
It's so difficult now a days to have a legit video game discussion without a fanboy of either company saying something dumb and turning it into a mess. How do you all feel about this very issue?

Its pretty much the same thing with all issues involving two sides, unfortunately. For example, may I refer to: Apple v. Windows, Republicans v. Democrats, tradition v. change, Red Sox v. Yankees, ect.

Humans tend to develop strong biases very easily, that's just the way our minds work. If you believe in something strongly enough, you're more likely to ignore logic form opposing sides and make irrational decisions. The only thing you can really do is discourage biases as much as possible, and try to be impartial yourself.
author=Jparker1984
Perhaps I should re-phrase my thoughts. It's not the whole fanboy nation so much that annoys me, it's just the dumb little kids (some adults lol) that go on an on, when they are factually wrong (I find some examples later after work.) The biggest one for me is when PC gamers say "PC's will always be stronger game machines" Well no shit they will (in terms of power) that dont mean that consoles cant be great to. To be honest, I like alot less PC games then on consoles.


PCs are superior in the sense that they can be upgraded while consoles remain the same. However, consoles are entertaining as long as you have fun with the available games for them. At the end of the day, all that matters is you enjoy whatever you play.

author=Novalux
Its pretty much the same thing with all issues involving two sides, unfortunately. For example, may I refer to: Apple v. Windows, Republicans v. Democrats, tradition v. change, Red Sox v. Yankees, ect.


The trick is to ignore both sides and throw out an alternative choice. :)

In all seriousness, you're absolutely correct. This issue goes on with pretty much everything.

author=Novalux
author=Jparker1984
It's so difficult now a days to have a legit video game discussion without a fanboy of either company saying something dumb and turning it into a mess. How do you all feel about this very issue?
Its pretty much the same thing with all issues involving two sides, unfortunately. For example, may I refer to: Apple v. Windows, Republicans v. Democrats, tradition v. change, Red Sox v. Yankees, ect.

Humans tend to develop strong biases very easily, that's just the way our minds work. If you believe in something strongly enough, you're more likely to ignore logic form opposing sides and make irrational decisions. The only thing you can really do is discourage biases as much as possible, and try to be impartial yourself.


I love my wife to death but oh my god she dose that. She will defy all logic in any way possible, even when she is blatantly wrong
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=Novalux
author=Jparker1984
It's so difficult now a days to have a legit video game discussion without a fanboy of either company saying something dumb and turning it into a mess. How do you all feel about this very issue?
Its pretty much the same thing with all issues involving two sides, unfortunately. For example, may I refer to: Apple v. Windows, Republicans v. Democrats, tradition v. change, Red Sox v. Yankees, ect.

Humans tend to develop strong biases very easily, that's just the way our minds work. If you believe in something strongly enough, you're more likely to ignore logic form opposing sides and make irrational decisions. The only thing you can really do is discourage biases as much as possible, and try to be impartial yourself.

This is why I've declined all mainstream religions and just acknowledged that between all opinions there is some layer of truth that binds them as all were inspired by truth. In that same way of thinking, I've combined my beliefs of religion with that of the understood matters of the universe (seeing as this is what most atheists flock to) and taken into consideration that all was born of energy that combined to form all things. This being the case, that which gave birth to all things is inherently "God", whether that force be sentient or otherwise. I accept the ways of the Big Bang, the theories of evolution, and the belief of creation as fragmented pieces of a much larger consistent truth.

If God is sentient, he existed within the singularity and at one point felt it necessary to give birth to that which we understand to be the universe. He, a being of energy within the eternal energy of that singularity, shaped this vastness into the galaxies and combined energy within the whole of space into such things as stars and, indeed, planets. Giving special care to one celestial compression of energy, he crafted our Earth and set in motion the beginning of life, the simple single-celled organisms that would evolve into the many species that have roamed the Earth. The Bible speaks of the "seven days of creation" that were obviously not actual days, but eras of time.

As evolution created animals more familiar to us in the modern era, primordial man stood upright and gained the brain capacity to understand the world around him. This is when man first discovered "God", and what might indeed be where we get "And the Lord said "Let there be light", and there was light." as this is when we first knew of this greater force beyond us as it was revealed.

I believe that this energy itself that is the very essence of "God" is what our "souls" consist of, an energy that has always been that cannot be created or destroyed, and in this greater sense allows us our "conscience" which rewards us with good feelings and a lightness when doing what we perceive to be a positive thing and resulting in the opposite effect when we do negative things, as we come more in touch with that which has always been and that which lies at the core of our being.

I believe that our souls, as energy, cannot be damaged and are at some manner of constant throughout our lives and are who we truly are. Our brains are simply that which was born of this earth and what gives us aspirations and desires of this earth and our bodies are formed as puppets for our brains, which, in themselves, are inherently puppets of our souls, though our conscientious existence lies within its own duality as both sides can be felt in our lives. I believe the reason why the faithful believe in the loss of pain and "imperfections" after death is that, when our souls separate from our mortal shells, all things that burdened us in life such as mental illness, mental retardation, muscular atrophy, and loss of body parts either through incident, disease or birth defect, remain with our bodies and are allowed to decay, freeing ourselves from them forever. "Sin" is where this becomes complicated if you limit the form of God to a human being that carries human perspective, but I believe that as our bodies die, so do our sins, and the perfect energy of our souls that could not be damaged by mortal influence will return to the everlasting energy that bore us by His mercy, as He is not bound by human perspective.

With that being said, realizing that I am but one person, living on one planet in the vastness of the universe, I am a speck of a speck of a much larger being that originated far before I was deemed significant, and as such it is not my place to judge others or become arrogant of my own deeds as though they are just by the will of that which we call "God", and that all beings have their valid place in this world. This revelation has allowed me to come more in-touch with my selflessness and my acceptance of the greater good of the world instead of what some minor perspective I can exhibit might limit me to, which in turn has brought peace and happiness to my heart. And it is by this that I encourage others to understand that what they feel is simply their perspective, the same thing that gave birth to our understanding of time and its necessity in our lives, as time itself (as we see it) is simply our Earth rotating around the Sun and the mutation of our cells from a state of high productivity to a lessening of productivity resulting in "age" and eventual death as our bodies no longer maintain adequate productivity to support proper health.

So, tl;dr: just don't be a close-minded douchebag who thinks the world owes them a statue to their greatness. We're all in this together and are just trying to make ends meet while we're alive.

Also, fuck racists, sexists, homophobes and religious zealots who might try to force you to follow their flawed views of the world.

EDIT: Oops, this isn't "Welp"...
edchuy
You the practice of self-promotion
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So that's the Corfaisus manifesto ...
meisam
meisam your not using semicolon properly, and that's a laughing matter.
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I like to say 1 more thing, you don't need to have a reason to believe in something, and it doesn't mean you will be fanboy.
a fanboy is someone, who don't know why something is good, but he raise some kind of argument, that in itself is logical, but he intentionally (or unintentionally) hide some facts to make his point logical.

I make the extremest example
A believer of God is not a fanboy until he try to explain existence of the god with logic, and try to say its completely natural that EVERYONE must believe in god.
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=meisam
you don't need to have a reason to believe in something

Of course you do, it's the reason why you even accept your own opinion. If you can agree with something, you adopt it as your opinion. If you disagree with it, you don't.

Nobody has ever believed in anything that was personally unfounded, regardless of whether or not this has been proven to be true. That'd be like saying that you need to believe in something and get reaffirmation of its truth from the belief itself in order to initially believe in it.
one of my favourite things about the internet is hearing people create new belief systems out of whole cloth based on nothing but their obviously superior deductive skills
meisam
meisam your not using semicolon properly, and that's a laughing matter.
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author=Corfaisus
author=meisam
you don't need to have a reason to believe in something
Of course you do, it's the reason why you even accept your own opinion. If you can agree with something, you adopt it as your opinion. If you disagree with it, you don't.

Nobody has ever believed in anything that was personally unfounded, regardless of whether or not this has been proven to be true. That'd be like saying that you need to believe in something and get reaffirmation of its truth from the belief itself in order to initially believe in it.
Then prove to me you do exist (or prove that to yourself). these are unsolved philosophical problem from the beginning of time. If you really think you know why you believe in such a things, you are fooling yourself.
of course, there is always an option to let your mind play with you.
funny you should mention that because I actually don't exist

ask me anything
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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i am glad that the fanboys thread somehow changed into a solipsism discussion within two pages
I am not glad but neither am I disappointed. I do not feel anything, and do not have any opinion about this fact.
meisam
meisam your not using semicolon properly, and that's a laughing matter.
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mawk, please read my post again, I didn't say you don't exist, I said prove that you do exist. Proving something need Hypothesis, most of time we accept Hypothesis that are practical, but dose that means they are correct? We were proved wrong multiple times, through history.
Let me make an example: Do you think Tidus in FFx existed in Spira? and how do you prove that you are not the same on Earth? you can answer: it dose not matter. and this is exactly when you accept something without any reason.
anyway I think I said what I wanted, I promise, I won't say anything else in this regard :P
you didn't say I don't exist but I did

I literally don't exist, if you have a problem with this then you're getting upset about something that doesn't exist

(it is tiresome and stupid to pretend that because scientific theories are sometimes disproven it's impossible to be certain about anything. these revisions of theory don't debunk the field -- they fortify it. they mark another tiny stuttering step toward the impossible ideal of absolute truth.)

e: shut up corfaisus
Corfaisus
"It's frustrating because - as much as Corf is otherwise an irredeemable person - his 2k/3 mapping is on point." ~ psy_wombats
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author=mawk
these revisions of theory don't debunk the field -- they fortify it. they mark another tiny stuttering step toward the impossible ideal of absolute truth.)

That's exactly the way I see it. It goes 'faith -> knowledge -> faith', as you must first adopt an opinion of a matter, whether or not it's true, and compare that idea to that which is perceived to be true to know that it is indeed "true". With this, your opinion of this matter is reinforced. When mankind finds that previous theories no longer make sense, that only reinforces the belief that our perspective will never be absolute and that we can only keep an open mind. This is actually the best thing that we can accept as it will allow us to selflessly act for the good of society instead of out of some flawed view of certain actions being just and leading to reward, which is an incredibly selfish way of thinking.

author=meisam
Do you think Tidus in FFx existed in Spira? and how do you prove that you are not the same on Earth? you can answer: it dose not matter. and this is exactly when you accept something without any reason.

Final Fantasy fanboy! Here I thought you were just going to drop a Vivi quote.

Also, video game. Spira isn't a real place.
meisam
meisam your not using semicolon properly, and that's a laughing matter.
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I simply give an example that most of people are familiar with, nothing else.

though, If you want to mock me, I should change my behavior accordingly.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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Y'all are prejudice if you knock fanboys. Stop all the hates.
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