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POKEMON GAME IDEA. WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK?
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Jparker1984
2008
Jparker1984
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CloseOk. So I wanted to start a fan project as a side thing, to give me a break from my main game. I didn't want to do the over killed final fantasy or dragon warrior, so why not pokemon. Here it goes.
"Pokemon dark horizon" it follows the first 150, but it's not traditional pokemon gameplay. It's instead inspired by "pokemon hunter" and "the evil inside" series. Humans and dealing with pokemon, evil creatures that are trying to rid the human race. Think along the idea of the star ship troopers movies. Humans are trying to figure ways to combat them, but they are constantly evolving and getting more resistant to the efforts. In this game you don't catch pokemon, but rather capture their data. The data allows you to buy type specific items, spells and other various things to exploit their weaknesses. You can also trade data for more powerful data.
For example, you can trade 6 charmander data for one charmileon data. There is no in game money. You do fight trainers, but no pokemon. Rather other desperate people trying to steal your data. Also, no game overs.
"Pokemon dark horizon" it follows the first 150, but it's not traditional pokemon gameplay. It's instead inspired by "pokemon hunter" and "the evil inside" series. Humans and dealing with pokemon, evil creatures that are trying to rid the human race. Think along the idea of the star ship troopers movies. Humans are trying to figure ways to combat them, but they are constantly evolving and getting more resistant to the efforts. In this game you don't catch pokemon, but rather capture their data. The data allows you to buy type specific items, spells and other various things to exploit their weaknesses. You can also trade data for more powerful data.
For example, you can trade 6 charmander data for one charmileon data. There is no in game money. You do fight trainers, but no pokemon. Rather other desperate people trying to steal your data. Also, no game overs.
just to let you know, pokemon is overdone.
do an rmn search to see.
to a google search to see.
even the series itself is approaching overdone.
do an rmn search to see.
to a google search to see.
even the series itself is approaching overdone.
Jparker1984
2008
Right, but final fantay is WAY more overdone. But thats not really the point of this thread. I wanted oppinions on the idea of the game.
Just to let you know.
Just to let you know.
honestly, your idea is scrambled, but with improvement, it may be tolerable
The back-story for why the pokemon are evil would probably end up being ridiculous. How combat would work would have no feel, basically pokemon are the antagonists and yet their data is the currency. Other "trainers" would be just like regular jrpg enemies, unless they have pokemon as well, in that case it would be the trainers you are fighting who are the wrongdoers. Sorry I misinterpreted your ideas, you only provided a meager paragraph on something as complex as this could be.
The back-story for why the pokemon are evil would probably end up being ridiculous. How combat would work would have no feel, basically pokemon are the antagonists and yet their data is the currency. Other "trainers" would be just like regular jrpg enemies, unless they have pokemon as well, in that case it would be the trainers you are fighting who are the wrongdoers. Sorry I misinterpreted your ideas, you only provided a meager paragraph on something as complex as this could be.
There are very few working and complete pokemon games for RM.
Go classic, and make a full-scale Pokemon game, and that might actually be nice.
As in, pokemon as enemies is very easy to program. Pokemon party system is not as much. Do something with actual challenge.
That said, you could go with the original plot, and have a sort of "fight fire with fire" plot.
Go classic, and make a full-scale Pokemon game, and that might actually be nice.
As in, pokemon as enemies is very easy to program. Pokemon party system is not as much. Do something with actual challenge.
That said, you could go with the original plot, and have a sort of "fight fire with fire" plot.
Jparker1984
2008
Yes I know that my idea is a bit messy lol, keep in mind though that this isnt a fully planed out game yet, just a very rough outline. I was planning to make a series game, but because its pokemon, it will end up being un-intentionaly funny. I'm working on a idea for the reason they went nuts. Perhaps they just decided that enough is enough. They didnt want to be controlled any longer, its their payback. It is going to be the DBS. I plan to include quick time events if I can make the right and interesting.
Also, I don't want to make a traditional Pokemon game, as great as they are I want to do something new with something old. I'll be using GBA style graphics by the way.
Also, again keep in mind. This is a rough idea / brainstorm thread.
Also, I don't want to make a traditional Pokemon game, as great as they are I want to do something new with something old. I'll be using GBA style graphics by the way.
Also, again keep in mind. This is a rough idea / brainstorm thread.
The thing is, if the content of your game isn't centered around catching monsters and fighting themed gym battles to win a championship, why call it Pokemon?
From the sound of your idea, you don't even need to use the existing pokemon franchise to make it work, maybe create your own species.
From the sound of your idea, you don't even need to use the existing pokemon franchise to make it work, maybe create your own species.
Jparker1984
2008
author=Ratty524
The thing is, if the content of your game isn't centered around catching monsters and fighting themed gym battles to win a championship, why call it Pokemon?
From the sound of your idea, you don't even need to use the existing pokemon franchise to make it work, maybe create your own species.
Holy shit that is a fantastic idea, simple yet I didnt think of it. I would still use the pokemon materials though (chipesets, music ect...) But here is the thing, it will prob be hard to find monsters and monster character sprites to fit the pokemon style maps and what not.
EDIT:
I mean, I supposed I could sprite up some Dragon Warrior monster graphics. Though, that would take ALOT of time and I'm not even sure that would work. The reason I wanted to use Pokemon is becasue I grew up loving it and I wanted to make a kind of Disgaea type aproach (story and writing stlye wise) to Pokemon. Giving a cool twiist to a childhood memory.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Yeah, this sounds like the kind of project that could benefit from riffing heavily off of pokemon without actually being directly related. A pokemon title with different gameplay wouldn't bother me at all (I can't stand that the gameplay in all of them is 100% identical, they are all completely the same game) but what WOULD bother me is that this sounds a lot darker than Pokemon. Games like Pokemon Snap, Pokemon Colosseum and Pokemon Mystery Dungeon all have different gameplay from normal but still feel like Pokemon games. They still have the same character, the same charm, the same things attracting you. When you make a gritty cyberpunk dystopian war between humans and pokemon, you don't have that essence any more, even if the gameplay is totally identical to a traditional pokemon game.
But, like I said, riffing off of it would work. Players are going to come into the game being familiar with Pokemon, so you can make the kinds of monster capturing that took place in pokemon be the game's backdrop and history. Maybe it's what sparked the war. Fed up with enslavement, they began fighting back, and humans were forced to figure out new ways to use their power. Maybe there are a few old-fashioned trainers still out there in the world too.
Regarding the gameplay, I like the idea of collecting data (genetic code?) from defeated enemies. However it will work best if the player has choices of which enemies to fight. If I can't choose who to fight, then I can't choose which data to collect. Alternately, maybe at the end of a battle I have to select just one of the enemy's pokemon to absorb the data from? That would add some choice also. You don't want to just give me the DNA from everything I fight through a bunch of linear dungeons, because that's a waste of a good interesting advancement system. Every player would end up getting exactly the same things from the enemies, at which point you might as well just stick the stuff in treasure chests instead of coding this cool complex system.
But, like I said, riffing off of it would work. Players are going to come into the game being familiar with Pokemon, so you can make the kinds of monster capturing that took place in pokemon be the game's backdrop and history. Maybe it's what sparked the war. Fed up with enslavement, they began fighting back, and humans were forced to figure out new ways to use their power. Maybe there are a few old-fashioned trainers still out there in the world too.
Regarding the gameplay, I like the idea of collecting data (genetic code?) from defeated enemies. However it will work best if the player has choices of which enemies to fight. If I can't choose who to fight, then I can't choose which data to collect. Alternately, maybe at the end of a battle I have to select just one of the enemy's pokemon to absorb the data from? That would add some choice also. You don't want to just give me the DNA from everything I fight through a bunch of linear dungeons, because that's a waste of a good interesting advancement system. Every player would end up getting exactly the same things from the enemies, at which point you might as well just stick the stuff in treasure chests instead of coding this cool complex system.
SnowOwl
5188
So basically the reason you're making this game pokemon is because you're too lazy to sprite stuff yourself?
The story doesn't seem very pokemon-like, as LockeZ said. If I was a pokemon fan, I would probably be disappointed getting this game and then playing a completely unpokemony (that's a word now) game.
The story doesn't seem very pokemon-like, as LockeZ said. If I was a pokemon fan, I would probably be disappointed getting this game and then playing a completely unpokemony (that's a word now) game.
Jparker1984
2008
author=SnowOwl
So basically the reason you're making this game pokemon is because you're too lazy to sprite stuff yourself?
The story doesn't seem very pokemon-like, as LockeZ said. If I was a pokemon fan, I would probably be disappointed getting this game and then playing a completely unpokemony (that's a word now) game.
first of all... nowhere in there did I say I was not willing to do it. If you read it correctly you would see that I meant I not sure I'm willing to put the work into something just to have it not look right thus being a waste of time. If you would see my current game you would see that I'm clearly not afraid to do custom spritig as my game is FILLED with it. There was absolutly no need for the "lazy" comment. So, if you want to say stuff like that go bother another thread, thank you.
EDIT: Also, as I wrote. I'm not aiming for a traditional pokemon game. More like a rpg with some pokemon flavor.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=SnowOwl
So basically the reason you're making this game pokemon is because you're too lazy to sprite stuff yourself?
The story doesn't seem very pokemon-like, as LockeZ said. If I was a pokemon fan, I would probably be disappointed getting this game and then playing a completely unpokemony (that's a word now) game.
Nah, he said he was inspired by pokemon and wanted to put a twist on it, which is legit. It's just that this twist is big enough that the game deserves to be its own thing.
Monster graphics are easy to find; check out a website called spriter-resources. You could probably use Shin Megami Tensei rips, which would be really fitting since it is another much more serious game series with a lot of gameplay similarities to Pokemon. SMT's premise, if you haven't played it, is "demons from different religions are invading the world and enslaving humanity in their fight against each-other; complete your demondex by capturing all 150 demons and use them in the battle to overthrow God!"
Jparker1984
2008
author=LockeZauthor=SnowOwlNah, he said he was inspired by pokemon and wanted to put a twist on it, which is legit. It's just that this twist is big enough that the game deserves to be its own thing.
So basically the reason you're making this game pokemon is because you're too lazy to sprite stuff yourself?
The story doesn't seem very pokemon-like, as LockeZ said. If I was a pokemon fan, I would probably be disappointed getting this game and then playing a completely unpokemony (that's a word now) game.
Monster graphics are easy to find; check out a website called spriter-resources. You could probably use Shin Megami Tensei rips, which would be really fitting since it is another much more serious game series with a lot of gameplay similarities to Pokemon. SMT's premise, if you haven't played it, is "demons from different religions are invading the world and enslaving humanity in their fight against each-other; complete your demondex by capturing all 150 demons and use them in the battle to overthrow God!"
Well I'd love to use to use some fake mon graphics from the web but most of the ones that are nice and would fit gba pokemon graphics are copy righted
SnowOwl
5188
And the original pokemon sprites aren't copyrighted?
Also checked out your game and the styles are all over the place so I'm gonna guess you downloaded most of it, those were probably copyrighted too. So why bother caring about copyright now? Either way, you seem dead-set on using pokemon for some reason so go ahead and do it. I'm sure it'll be wonderful. Who am I to question your great vision?
Also checked out your game and the styles are all over the place so I'm gonna guess you downloaded most of it, those were probably copyrighted too. So why bother caring about copyright now? Either way, you seem dead-set on using pokemon for some reason so go ahead and do it. I'm sure it'll be wonderful. Who am I to question your great vision?
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
dat passive-aggressiveness
But yeah unless you're selling the game, don't worry about using rips. It's no different than using Pokemon in the first place.
But yeah unless you're selling the game, don't worry about using rips. It's no different than using Pokemon in the first place.
SnowOwl
5188
There is something about that Naruto(?) avatar that just sets me off. I can't help it. I do think that caring about copyright at this point is bollocks, though. Either way, I would never download any pokemon game ever so I don't even know why I am in this thread. Good luck with the game. Oh god, I can't stop.
TheNecromancer
3160
I actually hate how pokemon games are all cutesy and childish. I would be more of a fan of pkmn games if they were more adult. I like the gameplay and "party" system, but everything else is lame.
Jparker1984
2008
Hey snow owl that message was a miss type and didnt catch it till now. Shut the hell up and quit trying to start problems
EDIT: Take a look at "Pokemon The Evil Inside" that was a darker pokemon fan game and it was a success
EDIT: Take a look at "Pokemon The Evil Inside" that was a darker pokemon fan game and it was a success
Jparker1984
2008
author=krazie22
Pokémon is the SHIIIIT. Too many Grown ups in here!!
LOL, I LOVE!!!!! The profile pic.
