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[POLL] POLITICAL THOUGHTS

Poll

What is you political standpoint? - Results

Very conservative
1
4%
Conservative
6
26%
Moderate
3
13%
Liberal
7
30%
Very Liberal
6
26%

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harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
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author=Mr_Detective
author=Tea Bagger
Liberals want revenge on white males, taxpayer-funded investments into failed solar energy firms, high taxes on everyone across the board, to expand welfare to increase their power base, want to punish legal gun owners and facilitate illegal gun owners, pretend to want to de-fund the military but actually end up being equally or more warlike than conservatives, want to grant special immigration privileges to future Democrat voters, and have no respect for life or family.
I call bullshit on all of this. This is what watching Fox News does to people: make them stupid.


I'm a libertarian. Calling me a teabagger only makes you look stupid. P.S. please send me that chick in your avatar.
That all sounds pretty accurate, except for the bullshit on "want to grant special immigration privileges to future Democrat voters" and "have no respect for life or family".

To presume that all immigrants are "liberal" is naive, and fuck off - I respect life and family.
author=harmonic
That's cute. Here's an equally and oppositely biased point of view.

Liberals want revenge on white males, taxpayer-funded investments into failed solar energy firms, high taxes on everyone across the board, to expand welfare to increase their power base, want to punish legal gun owners and facilitate illegal gun owners, pretend to want to de-fund the military but actually end up being equally or more warlike than conservatives, want to grant special immigration privileges to future Democrat voters, and have no respect for life or family.

Conservatives want real competition and real free market, not corporatism or cronyism, tax cuts for the productive sector of society, yes, a simplified tax code, only the religious ones are anti-abortion and anti-gay, recognize the validity of the 2nd amendment, recognize that welfare programs often create more problems than they solve and do not celebrate when the amount of welfare recipients increases, want to decentralize the government, against granting of special immigration privileges to future Democrat voters, and these days, want less interventionism than Democrats.

Does that help?

Harmonic is actually right.

Not only do I not vote, but two days ago a political type knocked on our door and handed me a pamphlet. Rather than being polite or humoring her, I flatly said that I don't vote, handed her back the pamphlet, and slammed the door in her face. I don't even do that to Jehovah's Witnesses.

I've never met a liberal with any respect for life or family. If they do, they're probably not actually in line with all the values on abortion, and are just casually aligned with the party in the first place.

Abortion is not respecting life. You're killing unborn children, how much more clearly can you put that? Oh, but it's not "alive" yet. And families generally fail due to the two working parents model (it doesn't matter which one does it, but better to have one car, and one person stay home, and you'd actually save money on babysitters/childcare vs the stress and strain of having one parent who isn't good at it be the breadwinner, or having both work when one could reasonably stay home, calculating the cost of commute and other on-job expenses).

Also, here's a little news flash, some of these criticisms of conservatives are right (let's use tax cuts for the rich), but that still doesn't make them bad. If you cut the taxes of the rich, they have disposable income. Greater disposable income means the average person can employ people. Which means we don't have to throw money around to "create" jobs, because people are employing people on their own.

Let's talk also about gun rights, since it's another "bad" thing. The most violent countries? They're either war-torn countries anyway, or they're places where the people are powerless to stop a few brutal thugs (like say, Rwanda). The least violent country? Switzerland (and this).
Not only do I not vote, but two days ago a political type knocked on our door and handed me a pamphlet. Rather than being polite or humoring her, I flatly said that I don't vote, handed her back the pamphlet, and slammed the door in her face. I don't even do that to Jehovah's Witnesses.

What a nice thing to do. Next, I'll turn the garden hose on those missionaries.
Seriously? What did she do to you? Have some respect, man.

I've never met a liberal with any respect for life or family. If they do, they're probably not actually in line with all the values on abortion, and are just casually aligned with the party in the first place.

Barrack Obama.
I've never seen any conservative who understands scientific facts and not talk to their imaginary buddy on the sky.

Abortion is not respecting life. You're killing unborn children, how much more clearly can you put that? Oh, but it's not "alive" yet. And families generally fail due to the two working parents model (it doesn't matter which one does it, but better to have one car, and one person stay home, and you'd actually save money on babysitters/childcare).

If they don't want to have the baby, then it's their choice to get rid of it before it is born. What should they do? It's not like they want to take care of the baby until it grows up. Should they spend their money feeding the pregnant mom and then give up the baby to Angelina Jolie?

Greater disposable income means the average person can employ people. Which means we don't have to throw money around to "create" jobs, because people are employing people on their own. Let's talk about gun rights. The most violent countries? They're either war-torn countries anyway, or they're places where the people are powerless to stop a few brutal thugs

That's a possibility. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
Gun control isn't the solution, but it is a enough as a temporary patch. What's wrong with having background check? Most responsible gun owners should have no problem with it. I just don't really care much about guns, so I'm kinda like whatever.

I'm a libertarian. Calling me a teabagger only makes you look stupid

You sure sounded like one.
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
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author=Mr_Detective
I'm a libertarian. Calling me a teabagger only makes you look stupid


You sure sounded like one.


1) Teabagging is placing your testicles into someone's mouth. Vulgarity, name-calling, and childishness seems to be a staple of left.

2) You must have missed my "equally and oppositely biased" disclaimer. I was making fun of DarkLordKeinor's hilariously skewed summary.
Blue.

author=Mr_Detective
Not only do I not vote, but two days ago a political type knocked on our door and handed me a pamphlet. Rather than being polite or humoring her, I flatly said that I don't vote, handed her back the pamphlet, and slammed the door in her face. I don't even do that to Jehovah's Witnesses.
What a nice thing to do. Next, I'll turn the garden hose on those missionaries.
Seriously? What did she do to you? Have some respect, man.

In this country, if things get any more factional, who you voted for will possibly be monitored, and at the very least, you might not be hired for a job based on who you voted for. In other countries, you can actually be killed for how you vote. Political solicitors are a bad element in our society. And respect is earned by respecting others (she didn't have respect for our privacy, trying to ask if my parents were interested, after I'd said no to her).

I've never met a liberal with any respect for life or family. If they do, they're probably not actually in line with all the values on abortion, and are just casually aligned with the party in the first place.

Barrack Obama.
I've never seen any conservative who understands scientific facts and not talk to their imaginary buddy on the sky.

Barack Obama is a hypocrite and a liar (telling Americans to pay their fair share, when he gave very little in taxes, and his staff gave even less). I happen to believe in scientific facts and religious truths. For that matter, I have a pet theory that uses science, logic, and existential philosophy to prove the existence of a deity.

Abortion is not respecting life. You're killing unborn children, how much more clearly can you put that? Oh, but it's not "alive" yet. And families generally fail due to the two working parents model (it doesn't matter which one does it, but better to have one car, and one person stay home, and you'd actually save money on babysitters/childcare).

If they don't want to have the baby, then it's their choice to get rid of it before it is born. What should they do? It's not like they want to take care of the baby until it grows up. Should they spend their money feeding the pregnant mom and then give up the baby to Angelina Jolie?

Yes, funny you should mention choice. Most liberal practice is about removing choice. Such as, the choice of the child to live or not. Where's its rights? For that matter, liberals don't seem to know that adoption agencies exist, and even if they didn't, most of the country still allows anonymous abandonment of a child on a doorstep. You have the choice to do anything you want once you have the child, you have the choice to try to kill it off before it develops into anything. What you don't have the choice to do, however is behave like an a-hole and remove the choices of others, waiting until the child is born and then sticking a pin in its head. For that matter, if you've been raped, you are well within rights as far as I'm concerned, to go knock on your rapist's door and brutally murder him, but what did a child do to you?

Greater disposable income means the average person can employ people. Which means we don't have to throw money around to "create" jobs, because people are employing people on their own. Let's talk about gun rights. The most violent countries? They're either war-torn countries anyway, or they're places where the people are powerless to stop a few brutal thugs

That's a possibility. Maybe they will, maybe they won't.
Gun control isn't the solution, but it is a enough as a temporary patch. What's wrong with having background check? Most responsible gun owners should have no problem with it. I just don't really care much about guns, so I'm kinda like whatever.

Again, this is their choice. If you're a slacker, you won't get hired, and shouldn't expect handouts.
Background checks are not gun control, they're responsible gun ownership. Gun control is "you can't own guns, or you can own certain (common) gun types because they're too dangerous." Totally different things, because one only prevents unstable people from use, and one prevent other people from defending themselves against said unstable people (who managed to get one anyway).


I'm a libertarian. Calling me a teabagger only makes you look stupid

A libertarian demands absolute freedom, and recognizes that the price of such freedom is being aware of the boundaries of others (i.e. if nobody stole, raped, etc we'd have no need of police or laws). A spoiled brat expects to have everything easily, and would be okay with trampling on other's rights and casually ending the life of an innocent child because it's "inconvenient."

You sure sounded like one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tea_bagging

Interesting. The one who came up with the term "Tea bagging" for the Tea Party? None other that your "respect for life and family" Barrack Obama. Harmonic, the problem was they didn't see any bias at all.

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edchuy
You the practice of self-promotion
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Aggh. This topic has REALLY gone off the rail. I thought it was supposed to be about the poll involved, not who's wrong or who's right. :P BTW, I do respect everyone's opinions, since that's all they are.

This topic got vitriolic and stupid. Locked.
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