HAS ANYONE FIGURED OUT HOW TO DOA TACTICS GAME IN RPG MAKER?

author=grindalf

author=RyaReisender
The world really needs more SRPGs.

I particularly would like to see much more games that play like Shining Force with RPG gameplay in between the battles (exploring towns, finding hidden passage and treasures)

That's something that disappointed me so much about FFTactics advance(the first tactical rpg I ever played) I really felt it needed exploration and walking around town talking to people

The Advance versions of FFT were massive disappointments imo especially when compared to the original...classes became limited by race, judegs randomly cut off certain abilities, the art style and tone went from super in-depth and serious to quirky and kiddish (their doing the same with the DS FF remakes their all that annoying chibi style now.

Correct way to do FF Art Style:



Current FF Art Style:




Anyways I DO plan to have towns be walkable, I never liked the "Menu towns" not sure if I'm doing dungeons though...the world map may or may not be free roam...I'd really rather it wasn't mostly for SRPG nostalgia reasons.

The main issue with mixing dungeons and SRPG battles is that battles in a SRPG take WAY longer than standard RPG fights so dungeons would likely only have a few scripted encounters...maybe I could make puzzle dungeons with only the "Boss" causing an encounter.

Thanks for all the help so far guys I've gotten quite a few of the scripts I was looking for so far, I didn't actually expect so much response but still got at least one must have one left

1. A way to allow players to add custom "Generic" characters to the party to mix and match with pre-made "Heros" (customization would be simple..choose a starting class possibly allow a few cosmetic and stat choices...not really required though) heh too bad I can't just put the CHaracter Generator from RPGMakerVXAce in game its pretty cool way to make facesets and sprite sets

As for the tactical RPG Battle Script - Currently I'm looking at GTBS V2.4 and it looks promising but will take some testing...Hoping to integrate Layy Meta Engine for the isometric view. Feel free to keep hunting down other RGSS3 or RPGMakerVX Tactics Systems though as I'm open to trying anything.

There's also my minor thingss I'd like to do...these are all optional and I'd have no issue making the game w/o and and will also be done last if I even have time but I really would like to include them.

1. A way to have the characters move along a path from important location to important location on the world map instead of free-roam

2. A crafting system (I LOVE crafting systems so I'd like to try to include one)

3. A Bestiary

4. A Records book (ie. Time played, total monsters killed, highest damage, highest money,etc.)

5. A Tutorial section (In case anyone hasn't played an SRPG before I'd like to outline the basics) selectable from the in-game menu...most likely just a bunch of text explanations but if I have extra time I might script some visual aids.

author=edchuy
Sounds like quite an ambitious project. If you're able to pull it off you'll have a best of breed Tactics/RPG combo game. :)

Well considering I've only ever completed one game of at least a dozen ambitious is right...hoepfully my random experience with various RPG Maker engines and half finished games will get me through this one :P

I will say the game won't be very long I'm aiming for like 5+ hours.

Anyways thanks to some fantastic scripters I apprently have alot of help...so far here's the MASSIVE list of help if your curious (still have to ask permission, credit will be given of course)

- G-Tactical Battle System: The is obviously the big one...very important I learn how this system works because I want to make sure to make a fantastic SRPG for everyone

http://redminedev.dyndns.org:8001/redmine/news

- Core Engine Bug Fixes: http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/ace-core-engine/

- Improved Text System: http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/ace-message-system/

- Yanfly Class System with Class Unlock add on - This is pretty much exactly what I was looking for it allows player to freely change their classes outside of battle AND allows me to create unlockable classes based on X level in any number of classes I want (ie. Lvl 8 Cleric+Level 8 Knight = Unlock Paladin)

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/class-system/

- Extra Parameters/Formulas - This really expands the data that the player has access to and gives stats a much bigger effect, this allows me to differentiate classes alot more and imo thats kind of required for a tactics game...even an Archer and a Crossbowman should be vastly different (ie. The Xbowman does less damage and has a shorter range but has a really high chance to crit)

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/extra-param-formulas/

- Party System - Another major script that will make all the difference for me...the ability to have more than 4 characters in your party alone is a must for any SRPG than add in the ability to have a massive list of characters and be able to select X amount of them to put in your party. (I'm thinking 6 is a good number maybe 7 or 8) lastly it allows me to lock members into the party allowing me to lock each one of my friends avatar a their main character. Their "General"

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/party-system/

- Battle Command List - A simple change with big uses...I can reorder skill lists for people...I might not end up using it or I might end up loving that it exists not sure but its a cool idea

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/battle-scripts/battle-command-list/

- Equip Command During Battle...honestly not sure if I should use this one...as a PLayer I'd think its cool but it makes the prep work and guessing that I perosnally love a little less required...would love peoples opinions on this one

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/battle-scripts/command-equip/


- Multiple Items dropped/percentage chances of said drop happening: I find this important because battles occur much less and last much longer in SRPGs so rewards for winning should be more...this script allows me to do that

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/battle-scripts/extra-drops/

- Ace Equip Engine: Total free reign to add/remove/chance what types of equip any class and/or actor has access to: perfect match for the class change system

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/ace-equip-engine/

- The ability to create unarmed "weapons" - http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/barehand-trait/ Well the Monk & Bear SHaman Classes I'm planning to make will love this script...allowing me to make "claws" count as unarmed and of course having the ability to be "unarmed" in the first place

- Percentage based stat increases: allows equipment to increase stats by a percentage instead of a flat number meaning a fighter with high str will get alot more out of a big axe with a big str modifer than a mage would. Whteher I'll use it is debatable.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/equip-dynamic-stats/


- JP Manager+Learn Skill Engine: Yep this will bring in some much needed FF-Tactics feel

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/jp-manager/
http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/learn-skill-engine/

- Stat growth reliant on class: If I understand this script correctly it will allow players stat growth to chance depending on their chosen class instead of per actor I really hope I'm reading this right because thats awesome

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/parameter-bonus-growth/


- Permanent status affects: this can make for some really cool items

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/passive-states/


- Alternative Skill costs: ie. Gold, HP,etc. this will help me make classes even more varied, it will even allow me to set skills that use a percentage of said resource (think 100% for ultimate mage attack or something)it even allows multiple resources.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/skill-cost-manager/

- Skill steal - pretty much required for me to include a Blue Mage class

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/skill-steal/

- Steal Skill :P - see above except Thief this script makes stealing really in depth I'll probably go with the percentage chance to steal an item type.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/steal-item/

- Less Restrictive TP - allows classes/actors to gain TP in different way again a good way to differentiate classes.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/tp-manager/

- Change basic attack: Normally everyone just "attacks" as their main ability this script would allows me to set it per actor or class...so say your a Black Mage "Magic Missile" could be your basic attack.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/gameplay-scripts/weapon-attack-replace/

- Bind Events to floor tile instead of have to make an event every time: just a time saver really but a BIG time saver

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/field-scripts/common-event-tiles/

- Force Move tils: similar to the above except it forces movement, I'll only use these two script if I decide to go with the "puzzle dungeons" idea

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/field-scripts/force-move-tiles/

- Slippery Tiles - similar to above but the move is more of a slide insteaf a jerky motion.

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/field-scripts/slippery-tiles/

- Every single Yanfly Menu script - yeah their all awesome and I see no reason not to use all of them especially the cursor addition



Ummm yeah So I'll owe ALOT to Yanfly but definately will be thanking others for their scripts (and will likely have to request use of alot of resources because spriting is really the only "Art" I can do...that and writing the story :P)

I REALLY do need that ability for players to add "Generic" soldiers to their Party so I can focus on make really cool custom classes for the "Heros" (they have normal access to other classes but each hero has one "custom" class) and possibly some secret character cameos if I can get permission for the creators.

If I can't find a script that does this perse I'd say the next best thing is to create "Generic" Actors and use Fomars "clone actor" script combined with Yanfly's class change and rename scripts (put the disallow name change script on "Hero" actors) to achieve this. (Actually this might be the easiest way now that I think about it)

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/menu-scripts/ace-status-menu/rename-actor/

http://cobbtocs.co.uk/wp/?p=125

http://yanflychannel.wordpress.com/rmvxa/core-scripts/class-system/

I could easily create a Tavern or Adventurers guild in some towns where you can speak to NPCs to "Hire Mercenaries" for X amount of gold. and paying that gold just adds X generic to your party...its name will just be its starting class and than using the rename option the player could name the character than go into the class change menu to make it the desired class. I'm sure I could even add the option to choose a face for the characters (edit: just tested it, it works and is quite simple...I need to find a way to show what the graphics are visually though...I wonder if I could make it so their face/sprite graphics change when they change classes...but ONLY for generics...hmmm...hmmm)

Hey guys I refined things a bit and also made it look a bit nicer

Well testing GTBS its definitely a pretty awesome system and surprisingly simple to utilize, it's also incredibly customizable...really the only issue I'm having is getting new monsters to spawn...keeps telling me no monsters on field but all the default monsters work fine I'll keep looking into it but otherwise everything works fine so far.

Note: Unfortunately the Layy Isometic Map system is quite buggy (it IS in beta after all) so I likely won't use it.

Hey guys just wanted to link in a possible crafting system: http://grimoirecastle.wordpress.com/2011/12/08/alchemic-synthesis-go-go-totori/

It's very similar to the Atelier Iris crafting (which I love) so if I have time before next X-Mas I'll implement it (Mind you if my friends like the game I'll likely add more stuff/change things based on their feedback before posting the game here)