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5 STARS REVIEW WAS DEEMED TOO MUCH BY SOMEONE'S STANDARDS
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MISTER BIG T
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CloseSo, this is something that I found really weird. I played this fun game which I discovered from the recently uploaded games that I enjoyed and made a review since there hadn't been one. I spoke of the basic premise, the plot, and the characters and the visual elements, despite there being some RTP there were plenty non RTP related things and such stuff. I provided not only screenshots of the game but also quotes from the game's protagonist as I went to explore the game's hidden undertones that were subtle and never in your face and what I truly loved of the game, I even said that is why it managed to be more thought provoking than most melodramatic rpg maker games which try way too hard to be taken seriously when everyone is all grumpy and don't even aknowledge how absurd things can get.
I was wondering why it took ages for the review to be published and today I found that my review was actually denied. Curiously this was the reason
"I'm probably not going to accept this as a 5 star review. I would accept it as an N/A review."
Who is this mysterious person stating this? Why can't I leave a rating on a game that I thought not only did do it's job it sought to do but also offered me a positive surprise? Why can't I even ask this person why they don't accept the 5 star rating? Was something off in my review or what was the problem about?
If I'd even know who this mysterious person who said they are probably (?) not going to accept 5 star but would accept no stars, it'd at least help me talk to them and work on my review out?
I was wondering why it took ages for the review to be published and today I found that my review was actually denied. Curiously this was the reason
"I'm probably not going to accept this as a 5 star review. I would accept it as an N/A review."
Who is this mysterious person stating this? Why can't I leave a rating on a game that I thought not only did do it's job it sought to do but also offered me a positive surprise? Why can't I even ask this person why they don't accept the 5 star rating? Was something off in my review or what was the problem about?
If I'd even know who this mysterious person who said they are probably (?) not going to accept 5 star but would accept no stars, it'd at least help me talk to them and work on my review out?
I know the review you speak of. It was for a joke game and the review was written as though the game were perfect which, while it is a funny game, isn't. It came across as a joke review and is treated as such. A fun, funny review. It's being allowed due to having some merit but as it came across as a joke, it was agreed that a N/A star rating would work instead.
You could just reply to the PM you received to get in contact with the actual person in charge of that area of the site. Really, this is something you should take to them.
You could just reply to the PM you received to get in contact with the actual person in charge of that area of the site. Really, this is something you should take to them.
MISTER BIG T
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I got no PM from anyone, that's why I made this post. I literally had no idea who declined it, the submission just said it was denied. Had it been clear, I wouldn't have made this post to begin with. :)
Oh, my review was not a joke review, though I suppose I could have mentioned more things and mentioned few not so good things. No game is perfect and if that would be the requirement, I don't think any game would ever get full score but for what it was worth, it was pretty outstanding for how simple it was and how little I did expect so if it had delivered on what it promised and actually gave a bit more even and left me with food for my thought and something to chew on after, isn't that a sign of a good game no matter how you look at the core game itself?
Oh, my review was not a joke review, though I suppose I could have mentioned more things and mentioned few not so good things. No game is perfect and if that would be the requirement, I don't think any game would ever get full score but for what it was worth, it was pretty outstanding for how simple it was and how little I did expect so if it had delivered on what it promised and actually gave a bit more even and left me with food for my thought and something to chew on after, isn't that a sign of a good game no matter how you look at the core game itself?
"I'm probably not going to accept this as a 5 star review. I would accept it as an N/A review."
Who gave you that line?
While a game might be fun and enjoyable, that doesn't automatically erase the issues the game might have right-out. 5 stars is 'perfect' in most judging, so unless a game is top-of-the-tier, (I believe) it shouldn't get that rating. (I'd even go so far as to say most of the games on the site that have 5 stars probably shouldn't. The whole 10 of them. And yes, that includes THaNoY.) That said, you can appeal by sending a PM to Solitayre in this case.
Who gave you that line?
While a game might be fun and enjoyable, that doesn't automatically erase the issues the game might have right-out. 5 stars is 'perfect' in most judging, so unless a game is top-of-the-tier, (I believe) it shouldn't get that rating. (I'd even go so far as to say most of the games on the site that have 5 stars probably shouldn't. The whole 10 of them. And yes, that includes THaNoY.) That said, you can appeal by sending a PM to Solitayre in this case.
TheNecromancer
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Isn't there only one person that handles reviews?
As for the topic title, yes, the staff at RMN deemed it too much by the site's standards. They get to do that.
Few people like joke games and to have one of them in the same category as the few games that manage to legitimately get 5 stars would be annoying to those who put some faith in the star system(yes, people do). Although most really good popular games will never get 5 stars as the final tally, because it will most likely get several reviews to average it down.
A game doesn't have to be perfect to get 5 stars, it just has to excel at nearly every category. What game was it?
I would say, let it have 5 stars and maybe someone will play this game with 5 stars, see that it's not worthy of 5 stars, and write their own review to balance out the opinion score. Or whatever
As for the topic title, yes, the staff at RMN deemed it too much by the site's standards. They get to do that.
Few people like joke games and to have one of them in the same category as the few games that manage to legitimately get 5 stars would be annoying to those who put some faith in the star system(yes, people do). Although most really good popular games will never get 5 stars as the final tally, because it will most likely get several reviews to average it down.
A game doesn't have to be perfect to get 5 stars, it just has to excel at nearly every category. What game was it?
I would say, let it have 5 stars and maybe someone will play this game with 5 stars, see that it's not worthy of 5 stars, and write their own review to balance out the opinion score. Or whatever
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=Liberty
"I'm probably not going to accept this as a 5 star review. I would accept it as an N/A review."
Who gave you that line?
When a submission is denied, there's a message underneath it in your Submissions page where the anonymous staff member who denied it gives a one-sentence reason for doing so. I'm assuming that's where he got that line.
I had a 350 word review denied once with the reason "Lacking length and detail." Which sounds stupid, heh. But the actual reason was more complex; there just wasn't enough space for the mod to write "Since this is a well-known, featured game that already has six other reviews, your review needs more length and detail to justify being worth adding to the pile, and especially to justify being a full star lower than any of the other reviews."
The review being denied doesn't mean they don't want it; what they actually want is for you to improve it and then resubmit it. That's why there's a resubmit button!
Ah, thanks for letting me know that, LockeZ. I've actually never had that so had no idea that there wasn't a PM sent out (though thinking about it, it would probably take a lot of time to write up whole PMs to people.) I always just assumed it. Silly me~ :/
Also keep in mind that site staff have the choice of out-right deny submissions if we so choose. We didn't want to do that since it was a funny review, so we gave the option of an N/A star - which actually isn't bad. You could adjust the review to a more serious tone if you want to, but in that case you had better justify giving a 5 star to a short, very silly game like Punch Bears and be prepared to fight for it. Typically we don't put up reviews that we're certain will cause shit-storms among the populace.
Also keep in mind that site staff have the choice of out-right deny submissions if we so choose. We didn't want to do that since it was a funny review, so we gave the option of an N/A star - which actually isn't bad. You could adjust the review to a more serious tone if you want to, but in that case you had better justify giving a 5 star to a short, very silly game like Punch Bears and be prepared to fight for it. Typically we don't put up reviews that we're certain will cause shit-storms among the populace.
MISTER BIG T
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But N/A stars would not give any stars to the game and I did want to give it good rating that I felt it deserved. It also has criminally low ammount of downloads and I was hoping to exactly help against that. How is N/A not that bad? It's literally not even a score and does not affect the game's overall score in any way or form, unless I'm totally mistaken?
I am more than able to justify my opinnions for all eternity for anyone, though I do already go to very indepth about why I think it deserves a good score. Honestly, I only have one minor complaint, which doesn't really detract that much from the overall core experience. I have lots of ideas to contribute and what could actually make the game even better though.
Anyway, I restructured the review a bit more to reflect on my usual way of reviewing things, such as detailing out the plot and the presentation and such and went into more details about combat and the combat elements as well as some other things like that.
I also would like to state
I've never said the game is perfect but I do not also feel the game needs to be perfect to have 5-stars. Again, perfection is IMPOSSIBLE. I can always find things to complain and if you're a grumpy critic, you can find even more. The difference is, do these problems take away from the game as it is or are there things that ruin the whole game. Minor nitpicks should not affect the score of the game unless there's tons of them to add up and I didn't really have that much to complain. Most complaints one could have about this game are actually complaints that seem to plague RPG maker games in general, not just this game so it's more of the curse of the engine than it is of this game particulary. The reason these problems may be highlighted is due to the short and simple nature of the gameplay itself.
I am more than able to justify my opinnions for all eternity for anyone, though I do already go to very indepth about why I think it deserves a good score. Honestly, I only have one minor complaint, which doesn't really detract that much from the overall core experience. I have lots of ideas to contribute and what could actually make the game even better though.
Anyway, I restructured the review a bit more to reflect on my usual way of reviewing things, such as detailing out the plot and the presentation and such and went into more details about combat and the combat elements as well as some other things like that.
I also would like to state
author=Liberty
Punch Bears. While a neat joke game, it's not perfect.
I've never said the game is perfect but I do not also feel the game needs to be perfect to have 5-stars. Again, perfection is IMPOSSIBLE. I can always find things to complain and if you're a grumpy critic, you can find even more. The difference is, do these problems take away from the game as it is or are there things that ruin the whole game. Minor nitpicks should not affect the score of the game unless there's tons of them to add up and I didn't really have that much to complain. Most complaints one could have about this game are actually complaints that seem to plague RPG maker games in general, not just this game so it's more of the curse of the engine than it is of this game particulary. The reason these problems may be highlighted is due to the short and simple nature of the gameplay itself.
author=Liberty
"I'm probably not going to accept this as a 5 star review. I would accept it as an N/A review."
Who gave you that line?
While a game might be fun and enjoyable, that doesn't automatically erase the issues the game might have right-out. 5 stars is 'perfect' in most judging, so unless a game is top-of-the-tier, (I believe) it shouldn't get that rating. (I'd even go so far as to say most of the games on the site that have 5 stars probably shouldn't. The whole 10 of them. And yes, that includes THaNoY.) That said, you can appeal by sending a PM to Solitayre in this case.
I agree with Libby regarding the 5 stars rating, which is why I'm very unlikely to give it to any game, but maybe that's just our standards. But it might happen, once in a full moon or when lightning strikes for the creme de la creme.
There is a joke review for Ratty's game "RPG Maker VX Ace," which gives it a 5/5. Reading it will make it clear that the review is a joke, but this review was accepted. I just thought I should point this out since this review as denied for similar reasons.
I thought Solitayre was our review overlord moderator?
*Edit: The contacts page lists Solitayre as the person tocomplain talk to about review submissions.
*Edit: The contacts page lists Solitayre as the person to
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