CAN WE TALK ABOUT THE MIKE BROWN/ERIC GARNER/ETC SITUATION?

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If I can put fuckwit in the spot where SJW is used and have the sentence read just as it did before, it's a personal attack and we do not allow those on this site.

And I am about 110% sure that those using SJW in this thread as a label are using it to insult others. So knock it off.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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@suzy:

Listen: in the ways that actually matter, basically no one is more left-leaning than me. I am like an actual fucking anarchist (not literally, anarchy like communism is an impractical "system", but I am an anarcho-socialist punk radical with aggressively anti-authoritarian, anti-establishment stance; I also find racism abhorrent). True Social Justice Warriors may try to pass as liberals but they really exist outside the political spectrum but they are really more like fascists than anything else. They are also racist and sexist which I, as an actual liberal, am opposed to. Explaining WHY SJW rhetoric is sexist and racist is well well well well outside of the scope of this topic which frankly is about something MUCH MUCH MORE IMPORTANT. But I hate SJWs on principle because they police speech and are effectively censors. There is nothing I hate more than censorship.

I am positive that the first definition does not apply to me because I am certainly not arguing for the purpose of raising my reputation. As a matter of fact, I am positive that I am actively damaging my reputation by opposing the SJW agenda. I just can't help it. The inability to let people be wrong on the internet is my greatest weakness.

The 2nd definition was obviously written by an SJW, and therefore self-evidently has no fucking value whatosever like anything an SJW makes. Bigots? srsly? Everyone who uses the term SJW is a bigot? Ok, by that definition kentona is a bigot. That seems fucking fair.

author=Isrieri
The only "social justice warriors" I see that deserve such a moniker are these damn police officers. Good fuck. I have no words to describe this other than that.

These cops are really literally warriors for the cause of social injustice.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=Liberty
If I can put fuckwit in the spot where SJW is used and have the sentence read just as it did before, it's a personal attack and we do not allow those on this site.

I really don't think you could. You could definitely put "liberal" in every spot where it's used and have it read exactly as it did before, though.

SJW and liberal mean exactly the same thing, the only difference is that one is a word that hashtaggers invented to help distinguish between teenagers talking about politics and politicians talking about politics. Not because they didn't want the arguments to be taken seriously; quite the opposite, they felt that connecting the debates to actual politics had negative implications.
Max McGee
with sorrow down past the fence
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well I mean

The 2nd definition was obviously written by an SJW liberal, and therefore self-evidently has no fucking value whatosever like anything an SJW liberal makes.

is not something I would ever say, so it doesn't work there. fuckwit does, tho. : /

so fine I will not call anyone on RMN an SJW...unless they are being a total unrepentant fuckwit. I am glad we have now all agreed that actual for real SJWs are so fucking stupid the term is now an actual obscenity, at least.
"A pejorative term for an individual who repeatedly and vehemently engages in arguments on social justice on the Internet"

How is that dissimilar to your behaviour? (I didn't really mean the second part of that definition, omitted from the above quote, applied to you, I just posted all of it for posterity, I guess.)

ANYWAY my point is that the Urban Dictionary link YOU posted does not help you because it contains two definitions that mean opposite things, and you did not specify which one you were referring to, and basically... you just proved Liberty's point in your above post (edit: the one right under Liberty's) about you personally using SJW as a derogatory term. Not everyone uses it that way, but basically it's the same as deriding somebody for being a "feminist" - these terms generally denote people who are trying to enact positive social change for the benefit of all, and there is a serious misconception that the MINORITY of those people who are hate-spewing freaks, who themselves don't actually understand the term they label themselves as, are the actual definition of that group.

Anyway (again), I'm just going around in circles.
Honestly, I have no idea what the fuck politics people follow has to do with cops killing innocents (and non innocents) and getting off scott free, aside from the whole race angle.


The point of the matter is, while there are white people killed by cops for no reason, there are many, many, many more black people killed by cops for no reason and the chances of a cop who kills black people getting in trouble for it is a lot less than that of a cop who kills a white person.

http://thefreethoughtproject.com/cops-beat-kidnap-12-yo-girl-front-home-claiming-prostitute/
http://www.theroot.com/photos/2013/06/unarmed_black_men_shot_by_police_20_sad_stories.html

There's more links that I'm chasing up... after I play with my nephews and nieces now that they're here and able to rescue me from dealing with this bullshit. Maybe by then I'll have forgotten this topic exists or my internet will drop out again. Who knows.

And no, I'm not saying SJWs are fuckwits or the like. I'm saying how the word has been used in this thread, it is an insult and attacks the person being labelled as such. It's the difference between calling a gay person gay because they are gay and calling something or someone gay because some idiots see that as a BAD THING AND THUS CALLING AN INANIMATE OBJECT GAY MEANS IT IS BAD OMG SO GAY!!!!

ffs
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
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author=Liberty
The point of the matter is, while there are white people killed by cops for no reason, there are many, many, many more black people killed by cops for no reason and the chances of a cop who kills black people getting in trouble for it is a lot less than that of a cop who kills a white person.


There's highly varying figures on this. FBI statistics point to plenty of whites killed by cops. More than blacks, though not more per capita of course.

Can you just tell everyone what your end game is? I mean, what will satisfy you? What new laws do you want passed? Would you be happy if the police were influenced in the other direction, to make sure to avoid enforcing the law in black communities because of political backlash?

Are you unwilling to consider that it is possible to be killed based on your own behavior? As in, physically attacking a cop?
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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do you think brown deserved to die, harmonic.

or: do you think allegedly punching a guy twice should be punishable by death
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
do you think brown deserved to die, harmonic.




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CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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it's a simple question. shouldn't be hard for an honest person to answer. i'm sorry my post didnt have 2000 words whining about how hard it is for whites.
Personally, less shooty would be a good start. Also, not being trained to use military weapons without the dedicated military training that is supposed to go along with it might be helpful (cheers to all the military people who've pointed out all the bullshit things that the cops have been doing in Ferguson, including but not limited to: pointing guns at people at all times, using tear gas on unarmed, innocent civilians, rolling in the tanks and acting in an aggressive manner in order to deliberately increase antagonism from the protesters).

Having a cop-camera that cannot be turned off until after shift ends might also be a good idea. It's worked in other areas that have used them.

Proper training, less weaponry may also work better. Include sensitivity training in that.

Oh, and how about not just shuffling to another station for those who have been included in shootings/violence against unarmed people in the past?

And of course, in the case of a shooting, various different things like debriefing, psychological assessments, inter-racial training (to get rid of that stupid hatred of people with different colours/backgrounds that they seem to have), actual suspensions and proper punishments that don't include being sent back into predominantly black areas when one has been in a fracas with black people in the past, removal of guns for those who have been in shootings and, oh, proper jail time and murder charges for those who do shoot unarmed citizens who they're supposed to be protecting.

Brushing up on law might also be a good idea since I'm sure it's illegal to charge someone for bleeding on your uniform after beating them because there was nothing else to charge them with.

You know, being an actual decent human being might also be nice to see. More psychological assessments in general and removal of those who are not sound would be good too.

It's not too much to ask that people don't quail in fear when they call the cops by accident or have to worry about their 12 year old daughter being kidnapped by cops when she goes to look outside at the breakers when the light goes out in your own front yard (and then be beaten and charged for 'assaulting a cop'.)

Oh, here, have another story.
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
it's a simple question. shouldn't be hard for an honest person to answer. i'm sorry my post didnt have 2000 words whining about how hard it is for whites.


Every single one of your posts has a little jab in it. So I'm not going to give your "questions" any dignity.

So my answer is yes and I'm glad it happened and I wish it would happen some more. Happy?
Yeah this is a gaming website, and we cannot have thoughtful discussion about subjects like this when so many of you act like unrepentant self-righteous fuckwits. This is not a discussion.

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To answer the question "Can we talk about the Mike Brown/Eric Garner/etc situation?" The answer has proven to be "No."