CLARIFICATION FOR COMPARING REVIEWS
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I'm really tempted to write "yes" beside the "Are you a bot?" question everytime I open a topic
Due to recent events I consider making a 3rd Series of Reviews. (When will you finally continue your other 2 series? When I'm finished coming up with new ones...)
The RMN Rivalry
I have 2 games of pretty much the same genre.
I want to compare them.
Obviously I cannot just submit a review to one of them, since half of it is for the other.
I could post it seperately and link to it but that would be unsatisfactory.
I'm thinking maybe submit the same review (which directly compares the 2 to each other in every aspect) on both games.
My basic Question:
Are there problems/issues regarding the rules?
Adittional Thought:
Basically, the "looser" would have the same review and be rated 0.5 to 1.0(worst case) worse than the "winner", except if it is a tie.
Due to recent events I consider making a 3rd Series of Reviews. (When will you finally continue your other 2 series? When I'm finished coming up with new ones...)
The RMN Rivalry
I have 2 games of pretty much the same genre.
I want to compare them.
Obviously I cannot just submit a review to one of them, since half of it is for the other.
I could post it seperately and link to it but that would be unsatisfactory.
I'm thinking maybe submit the same review (which directly compares the 2 to each other in every aspect) on both games.
My basic Question:
Are there problems/issues regarding the rules?
Adittional Thought:
Basically, the "looser" would have the same review and be rated 0.5 to 1.0(worst case) worse than the "winner", except if it is a tie.
Maybe submit it as a article instead of a review or something along those lines? I'm not sure why you need to compare two games like that though. Are they somehow connected to each other?
This is an... interesting experiment. I would, however, advise you to write two separate reviews, tailored to each game, and link to each other, and SCORE each review fairly. Referencing the other game you reviewed is fine, as long as you are upfront and clear in your experiment at the beginning of each review.
But I would like my review arbiter to weigh in on this before this is allowed.
But I would like my review arbiter to weigh in on this before this is allowed.
author=SnowOwl
Maybe submit it as a article instead of a review or something along those lines? I'm not sure why you need to compare two games like that though. Are they somehow connected to each other?
Well, their only connection is their game-play style. They are in many aspects similar but have distinctive differences to them.
Why do we need to do anything, right? It's just another style of reviewing I want to pursue, effectively benefiting both games regardless of the conclusional verdict by spawning debate and interest.
For myself I'm very interested in disagreement. (Sounds strange, doesn't it) People are bound to have their personal opinion. Also, that way, people who played Game 1 (therefore liking it) but never heard of Game 2 will have a direct connection to it and vice versa.
It might proof to be very interesting to see people arguing the pros and cons of either game, immersing users who normaly don't see the need to comment to do so.
author=kentona
This is an... interesting experiment. I would, however, advise you to write two separate reviews, tailored to each game, and link to each other, and SCORE each review fairly. Referencing the other game you reviewed is fine, as long as you are upfront and clear in your experiment at the beginning of each review.
I think that is the alternative, less satisfying option. Thanks for that.
Though one of the most interesting parts is to see the fluctuation of certain aspects.
Let's say it looks like this (Refer to my profile if this here isn't clear)
Game 1 Game 2
Gameplay - (++) Gameplay - (+++)
... ...
Skills/Skillsystem - (+++) Skills/Skillsystem - (++)
... ...
Then there are certain interesting aspects to discuss. Like, in this artificial example, Game 1 is gameplaywise not as fun as Game 2, but still very fun, but the Skill-System, which for many people is important as preperation-for-gameplay, is better in Game 1.
And this detail would slip behind the curtain if I have two seperates instead of 1 full.
author=kentona
But I would like my review arbiter to weigh in on this before this is allowed.
Now, who might that be? :)
Hmmm…now I know in some of my previous reviews that I’ve done in the past, like the one that I did for Super Talking Time Bros. 2.5 – The Last Levels that I pointed out some differences and some things that I liked done better in this game than the other popular SMBX game that I played earlier, Super RMN World, and talked a little bit about that, and I’m sure I’ve compared a few games together side-by-side in the past when reviewing certain ones, but to flat out do a “this game V.S. this game” in a review format? Hmmm…I don’t know if that said author would appreciate having his or her game match up against another game of the same genre on here and have it compared like that when all they want to know is really what do you think about THEIR game, not “which one is better”.
I suppose you could submit something like this as an article, like SnowOwl said, and maybe do a little mini-comparison series between two popular RM games, but I believe that most reviews here should tend to focus on the said game that you're reviewing as an whole instead of just comparing it against another. Briefly, yes, but not as an entire whole.
You could always just do what I’ve done and just maybe a throw in a little minor comparison between the two games here or there and touch on it briefly with the one that you’re reviewing. But I like to think that we’re all on the same side here and nobody is in direct competition with one another. Although two games may share the same genre, and maybe even the same engine, and may have some similarities here or there, I’d like to think that everybody's games are unique enough in their own special way to be treated as different.
Either way, maybe you can talk to Solitayre about it, since he handles all the reviews, and maybe you might be able to do it. It never hurts to at least ask about it.
I suppose you could submit something like this as an article, like SnowOwl said, and maybe do a little mini-comparison series between two popular RM games, but I believe that most reviews here should tend to focus on the said game that you're reviewing as an whole instead of just comparing it against another. Briefly, yes, but not as an entire whole.
You could always just do what I’ve done and just maybe a throw in a little minor comparison between the two games here or there and touch on it briefly with the one that you’re reviewing. But I like to think that we’re all on the same side here and nobody is in direct competition with one another. Although two games may share the same genre, and maybe even the same engine, and may have some similarities here or there, I’d like to think that everybody's games are unique enough in their own special way to be treated as different.
Either way, maybe you can talk to Solitayre about it, since he handles all the reviews, and maybe you might be able to do it. It never hurts to at least ask about it.
Thank you Addit.
I understand that it may seem strange. Like alot of my requests.
It's difficult for me to argue my exact viewpoint without dropping the name of either of the 2 games.
Please don't misunderstand me though,
just because I want to directly compare one game to another doesn't mean that they won't both receive the care I gave in my 1 official Review (on this site) as of now.
I also feel that it is wishful thinking assuming that SMBX 2.5 is anything different to any other Mario Game. It is the very same thing with the differences setting it apart from each other, but not a completely solitary game, as such they are always compared to each other depending on which one the reviewer played. Really, I would do nothing different except be completely upfront with something that is usually behind the curtain.
It may be just my own lonely opinion, but I think comparison is for the best. Acting like that other game that "totally is not like my game at all! My Mario has white shoes!" does not exist is kinda... well... unsmart. And can lead to design desisions solely made to be "different" and "edgy" instead of looking respectfully at the other game and learn from the things that it may have done better to ultimatively provide a game that is fun to play.
Thank you very much for the name drop :) With Solitayre I'll be able to be upfront with all of this, so at least there will be no confusion over it.
Greetings,
Krolan
P.s. Oh, and I agree about the "most Reviews" part. It is not like I plan on doing nothing else. I really just want to have my "Series'" ready to then continue to work on them individually, therefor right now I'm working on having one Review of each sort. If it is not possible to do such thing as a review, I'll be fine with that. I can just make an Article (Thanks Snowowl) and link to in in the respective comment sections. The only thing about it that bothers me is that the respective score will not be added to the games. So maybe I'll even pursue the Option kentona mentioned, which is an alternative that is likely not against any rules or guidelines
I understand that it may seem strange. Like alot of my requests.
It's difficult for me to argue my exact viewpoint without dropping the name of either of the 2 games.
Please don't misunderstand me though,
just because I want to directly compare one game to another doesn't mean that they won't both receive the care I gave in my 1 official Review (on this site) as of now.
I also feel that it is wishful thinking assuming that SMBX 2.5 is anything different to any other Mario Game. It is the very same thing with the differences setting it apart from each other, but not a completely solitary game, as such they are always compared to each other depending on which one the reviewer played. Really, I would do nothing different except be completely upfront with something that is usually behind the curtain.
It may be just my own lonely opinion, but I think comparison is for the best. Acting like that other game that "totally is not like my game at all! My Mario has white shoes!" does not exist is kinda... well... unsmart. And can lead to design desisions solely made to be "different" and "edgy" instead of looking respectfully at the other game and learn from the things that it may have done better to ultimatively provide a game that is fun to play.
Thank you very much for the name drop :) With Solitayre I'll be able to be upfront with all of this, so at least there will be no confusion over it.
Greetings,
Krolan
P.s. Oh, and I agree about the "most Reviews" part. It is not like I plan on doing nothing else. I really just want to have my "Series'" ready to then continue to work on them individually, therefor right now I'm working on having one Review of each sort. If it is not possible to do such thing as a review, I'll be fine with that. I can just make an Article (Thanks Snowowl) and link to in in the respective comment sections. The only thing about it that bothers me is that the respective score will not be added to the games. So maybe I'll even pursue the Option kentona mentioned, which is an alternative that is likely not against any rules or guidelines
The thing that bothers me in this idea is that you're picking two different games that have no connection to each other and basically comparing them... when all they have in common is some gameplay elements. I mean, I could see something like two fangames of the same series being interesting to compare, but comparing two games that aren't even related to each other is... well, why would you?
That would be like comparing apples and oranges (OMG, finally got to use that correctly! XD )
IDK, it just seems like a weird idea and not really fair to either game. :shrug:
Well, whatever.
I'd say either Writer's Block or Anomalies (I'm leaning more towards Anomalies) would be the best picks for this. Maybe check out what else is in those categories and see where this would fit. I'm pretty sure one or the other has some game articles in them so perhaps that one would be a good idea.
Oh, and maybe it'd be nice to put up the reviews for both on their respective game pages with a link to the article once it's done, too. ^.^
That would be like comparing apples and oranges (OMG, finally got to use that correctly! XD )
IDK, it just seems like a weird idea and not really fair to either game. :shrug:
Well, whatever.
I'd say either Writer's Block or Anomalies (I'm leaning more towards Anomalies) would be the best picks for this. Maybe check out what else is in those categories and see where this would fit. I'm pretty sure one or the other has some game articles in them so perhaps that one would be a good idea.
Oh, and maybe it'd be nice to put up the reviews for both on their respective game pages with a link to the article once it's done, too. ^.^
author=Liberty
Oh, and maybe it'd be nice to put up the reviews for both on their respective game pages with a link to the article once it's done, too. ^.^
That is actually a great idea o.o I'll just have to make sure that they're accepted (almost) at the same time. That Way I can keep the comparisson exactly as what it is supposed to be, let them enter the "Arena" and all that and still provide the Review. So I don't have to make a Review/Comparisson Hybrid (which would've been an interesting personal challange though...). Oh well :)
Regarding Apples and Oranges:
From the top of my head I couldn't think of any other games that I know of that could even remotely get this treatment, so it is a rare occasion anyway. It's not like it is a straight RPG which are, mostly, not comparable in the slightest.
It is not like I try to compare The Legend of Zelda (NES) to Super Mario World or A Link to the Past to Super Mario RPG. It is more like a comparison between Gothic 1 and TES: Morrowind, or CoD:Modern Warfare and Battlefield 3, which are, lets face it, the exact same thing with slightly altered features.
RPG-Maker games are very personalized, I agree with that, and this is why most of them cannot be compared to one another. However, some games follow a very specific type of play, as of now I only found one such incident with those 2 games after about 4 months. So this is a Series which will rarely be updated but probably exactly because of that be more interesting.
I think I would suggest a mixture of what SnowOwl, kentona, and Addit said.
I would say submit your series as an article comparing the two games, and if you want to rate each game independently you'd need to submit your individual thoughts about that individual game independently as a review.
That's just my initial thoughts.
I would say submit your series as an article comparing the two games, and if you want to rate each game independently you'd need to submit your individual thoughts about that individual game independently as a review.
That's just my initial thoughts.
author=Solitayre
I think I would suggest a mixture of what SnowOwl, kentona, and Addit said.
I would say submit your series as an article comparing the two games, and if you want to rate each game independently you'd need to submit your individual thoughts about that individual game independently as a review.
That's just my initial thoughts.
Thank you Solitayre, that's pretty much what I'm gonna do :)
Thanks to all you other guys. All your suggestions lead to how I'm gonna go on about this. Appreciate it :)
In my Book this topic's Solved and Cleared.
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