THE END OF THE MODDING COMMUNITY

It was modded.

author=Shinan
I mean, there's a clear divide between us amateurs and the people who make commercial games. At least that's what it often feels like with us calling them hacks and whatnots.

Almost as though we are merely jealous buffoons. Anyway, my primary goal in life is to sell out.

I feel like paying people to do something will probably not cause them to stop doing that thing. It can certainly affect the degree to which they are willing to collaborate though. Since they don't want to give ten extra people cuts of the profits. But now they are motivated enough to do a lot of that stuff themselves instead of using pieces of other people's work. So yeah, the "community" might feel less unified in the future, but the "community" is just a tool to help us get better mods, it's not like it's a worthwhile thing in and of itself. If ending the community actually results in superior mods then good riddance.

(I also suspect 99% of mods will remain free due to the fact that there are so many existing free mods of high quality and it creates a stigma against charging for new ones that aren't any better. You can see a similar effect in the RPG Maker community.)

Wait, so there's pop ups in the game if you have the free version of the mod?

That's uh.

That's disgusting on a very basic level

if you're talking about da:o, wasn't that before the EA/Bioware merger? not sure. in any case, they took that out of the next two games afaik (i've played both of them for hundred+ hours and didn't see anything liek the shithead at your camp in DA:O)

I don't see how that's any different than the ending screen of the first game in a series letting you know that you can buy the sequel. Or how it's relevant at all to mods...

http://www.reddit.com/r/pcmasterrace/comments/3434it/paid_mods_in_the_steam_workshop/ more discussion to add on to what slash posted.

author=Cap_H
It was modded.

Yes it was. Now where's my ****** money!? I GET SEVENTY FIVE PERCENT FOR DOING NOTHING! THAT WAS THE DEAL!

Anyways bad joke aside you can see where my issues lie with this topic. I don't care that modders can make money for their work. I think it's a great idea. But I also think it's an idea that steam and valve need to stay the %#^! away from. Have any of you SEEN Greenlight these days? It has total garbage for anywhere from 9.99 to 49.99. As if that wasn't bad enough games already are sold half finished as is. Then they make all kinds of DLC that basically turns it into what I would call a normal or finished product. In the end instead of paying 60 dollars for Borderlands 2 I paid almost 200. That is literally all this is going to do if Steam/Valve are the people handling it. The worst part is that they get 75% for doing nothing other than hosting the damn files which cost pennies.

Also I've only paid for 2 RPG Maker games. Deadly Sin when it was first released was something I purchased at 15 dollars, and I think Aveyond was another. However free games came out that put those to shame. I still have hundreds of those free games to play and I enjoy them just as much or more than commercial RPG maker games. I can safely say that this move if done poorly, which it will be because it's Valve, is going to cause piracy of mods. Welcome to TorrentMods.com.

EDIT: We need a facepalm and shame smiley that's RPG maker themed. Also I hereby am claiming seventy five percent of all money made from said smileys. For hosting the idea.

"going to cause?" people already started torrenting the paid mods and backing up their current versions of free mods. https://www.reddit.com/r/modpiracy/

No, 30% is eaten by Steam. Steam then allows the game's creator to take whatever amount they want: Bethesda decided to take another 45%.

I feel reasonably sure that Bethesda deserves whatever amount of the profits they want, and also that you'll get way more than 4x the sales on Steam than you will anywhere else, so, like, the cut that the mod creator gets is the opposite of a problem.

author=Ratty
Game patches break mods, until mod authors fix them. Mod authors come and go, either through lack of interest or real life concerns like jobs and family concerns taking obvious precedence. You can’t guarantee a modder will provide ongoing support for their work, so you absolutely can’t charge people for it.

I don't know if you've ever used electronics but the fact that something won't work forever is definitely not a reason to not charge people for it. How many servers for current-gen online games do you think will be running in fifteen years? How is the latest Windows XP update working out for you?