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ARE WE ALONE IN THE UNIVERSE?
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Naedeslus
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I think due to the sheer probability of the universe, there might even be an exact copy of this planet. Due to just how huge the universe is. So I believe there is in fact alien life-forms, in fact I think the universe is loaded with them. The universe is always expanding and evolving.
PME
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I think it'd be conceited to think we're alone in this universe. I believe very strongly in others out there, and I'm sure they have visited us.
iamnot
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I would image that there is life out there (the universe is a pretty big place!) but I don't think we have/will come into contact with them, and would be surprised if they knew about us!
Omcifer
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No, I don't think that we are alone. The people that tend to think we are alone are the people that believe we are the center of a divine plan, and we are super special because of it. Those same people many years ago supported the geocentric model of the universe, but not as much now. Of course, there are people who think that we are alone for some other reason.
Many scientists will tell you the same thing - the universe is a very vast and seemingly infinite area. It's so large that many people have trouble comprehending it's size, and it's many billions of light years in diameter.
Have we come into contact with any sort of extraterrestrial being? No, we haven't. Scientists are at work with trying to discover lifeforms that may exist on other planets. One thing that scientists do is search for water, or at least the evidence of past existing water on a planet because water is essential for life to exist. Whether or not we ever come into contact with life forms on other planets is not really known. Maybe many years into the future this might be possible, or at least we might even know of their existance sometime.
The thing is that no one can say life exists on other planets and be entirely correct at this point, or at least for as far as humans understand. It's never been discovered, so consequently it hasn't actually been "proven" yet. I believe that one day we will discover organisms somewhere in the universe, and this belief is a perfectly reasonable speculation.
Many scientists will tell you the same thing - the universe is a very vast and seemingly infinite area. It's so large that many people have trouble comprehending it's size, and it's many billions of light years in diameter.
Have we come into contact with any sort of extraterrestrial being? No, we haven't. Scientists are at work with trying to discover lifeforms that may exist on other planets. One thing that scientists do is search for water, or at least the evidence of past existing water on a planet because water is essential for life to exist. Whether or not we ever come into contact with life forms on other planets is not really known. Maybe many years into the future this might be possible, or at least we might even know of their existance sometime.
The thing is that no one can say life exists on other planets and be entirely correct at this point, or at least for as far as humans understand. It's never been discovered, so consequently it hasn't actually been "proven" yet. I believe that one day we will discover organisms somewhere in the universe, and this belief is a perfectly reasonable speculation.
Blitzen
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I repeat my point that for all intensive philosophical and practical purposes that we should consider ourselves alone. To think otherwise is to ignore the scope of practicality associated with actually finding and communicating with another civilization. To be honest, I think the average joe is more likely to meet a ghost than an alien.
author=Naedeslus link=topic=1945.msg36291#msg36291 date=1223346512
I think due to the sheer probability of the universe, there might even be an exact copy of this planet. Due to just how huge the universe is. So I believe there is in fact alien life-forms, in fact I think the universe is loaded with them. The universe is always expanding and evolving.
I was just talking with my co-worker about this subject today, and this was exactly my stance. With all the galaxies that are being discovered, and the almost infinite amount of "space" there is left to explore, the odds of a planet NOT existing which can/does sustain life is almost nil.
This is VERY interesting (even though it's fairly juvenile), and deserves a quick look:
http://www.imagineeringezine.com/e-zine/small-world_1.htm
Omcifer
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author=Blitzen link=topic=1945.msg37010#msg37010 date=1223674850The direct interaction with life forms foreign to earth does not dictate how we should act towards the probability of their existance. No one on earth actually knows for sure whether or not "aliens" exist, unless you believe that the government is a part of a conspiracy concerning aliens and Area 51.
I repeat my point that for all intensive philosophical and practical purposes that we should consider ourselves alone. To think otherwise is to ignore the scope of practicality associated with actually finding and communicating with another civilization. To be honest, I think the average joe is more likely to meet a ghost than an alien.
Humans do not have to interact with extraterrestrial lifeforms to be aware that they do exist. With technology progressing as it is today, I wouldn't be surprised if life was discovered on another planet in my own lifetime. Why is it ok to assume that we are alone, and ignore the scope of the universe and the large probablity that there are other complex forms of life? There are billions of galaxies. Each galaxy has billions of stars.If only a small percentage of those stars had earth life planets then there would be many, many planets with life on them.
Somewhere out there, on another planet, some beings are discussing the possibility of lifeforms in other galaxies.
Blitzen
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author=Omcifer link=topic=1945.msg37024#msg37024 date=1223680216
Humans do not have to interact with extraterrestrial lifeforms to be aware that they do exist. With technology progressing as it is today, I wouldn't be surprised if life was discovered on another planet in my own lifetime. Why is it ok to assume that we are alone, and ignore the scope of the universe and the large probablity that there are other complex forms of life? There are billions of galaxies. Each galaxy has billions of stars.If only a small percentage of those stars had earth life planets then there would be many, many planets with life on them.
I do not negate the idea that there are other lifeforms in the infinity of universe, but I do attest to the fact that they will never have any impact on human society.
Shadowtext
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author=Blitzen link=topic=1945.msg37119#msg37119 date=1223701997Eternity is as long a time as the universe is wide. At least.author=Omcifer link=topic=1945.msg37024#msg37024 date=1223680216
Humans do not have to interact with extraterrestrial lifeforms to be aware that they do exist. With technology progressing as it is today, I wouldn't be surprised if life was discovered on another planet in my own lifetime. Why is it ok to assume that we are alone, and ignore the scope of the universe and the large probablity that there are other complex forms of life? There are billions of galaxies. Each galaxy has billions of stars.If only a small percentage of those stars had earth life planets then there would be many, many planets with life on them.
I do not negate the idea that there are other lifeforms in the infinity of universe, but I do attest to the fact that they will never have any impact on human society.
Natook
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@ Shadowtext: I think that is the shortest post I've seen from you. You're so full of facts and stuff haha.
SuicideAngel
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Well we know there are an infinite number of worlds, but that not every one of them is inhabited. Therefore there must be a finite number of inhabited worlds. Any finite number divided by infinity is as near to nothing as makes no odds, so if every planet in the universe has a population of zero, then the entire population of the universe must also be zero, and any people you may meet from time to time are merely the products of a deranged imagination. ;D
Gotta love that Hitchhiker's Guide.
Gotta love that Hitchhiker's Guide.
demondestiny
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author=Shadowtext link=topic=1945.msg37343#msg37343 date=1223790136author=Blitzen link=topic=1945.msg37119#msg37119 date=1223701997Eternity is as long a time as the universe is wide. At least.author=Omcifer link=topic=1945.msg37024#msg37024 date=1223680216
Humans do not have to interact with extraterrestrial lifeforms to be aware that they do exist. With technology progressing as it is today, I wouldn't be surprised if life was discovered on another planet in my own lifetime. Why is it ok to assume that we are alone, and ignore the scope of the universe and the large probablity that there are other complex forms of life? There are billions of galaxies. Each galaxy has billions of stars.If only a small percentage of those stars had earth life planets then there would be many, many planets with life on them.
I do not negate the idea that there are other lifeforms in the infinity of universe, but I do attest to the fact that they will never have any impact on human society.
wow, nice words. I'm surprised this topic is still going. :P
lichlord
13
ok, maybe space is an infinite loop... unless when it ends it just drops off into complete nothingness.
:o the universe is flat!
:o the universe is flat!
Blitzen
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author=Shadowtext link=topic=1945.msg37343#msg37343 date=1223790136
Eternity is as long a time as the universe is wide. At least.
*quippy anecdote* There will never be a federation of planets. That's right... I said it.
iamnot
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author=Blitzen link=topic=1945.msg37393#msg37393 date=1223828242author=Shadowtext link=topic=1945.msg37343#msg37343 date=1223790136
Eternity is as long a time as the universe is wide. At least.
*quippy anecdote* There will never be a federation of planets. That's right... I said it.
Now your just ruining my hopes and dreams that Star Wars will one day become a reality!
