[POLL] A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT ADS AND RMN

yeah, tbh i barely noticed the difference between no ads and ads. i didn't even really appreciate it until now i guess? i donated to rmn to beg for people who participated in lockez & i's event to get MS/badges, not to skip the ads.

shayoko
i can't vote as none apply to me.
i do not mind the ads. i understand the need for them.
but i am not interested in them and don't really have free money to spend on things that are not necessary to survive.

they do not get in the way or even delay/make the experience tedious.
like background audio which you cannot stop is the worst.
ads like on YT where is plays a short video before a video click is fine too.

in any case do what you feel you need to do. this is one for my most visited sites i come to daily. i would be sad if it went away as it and its community has changed gaming for me. for the better.

i wouldn't worry about not being able to donate -- you add a lot to the community, especially as a consistent gamepage visitor. rmn would be worse without you!

Lato
no just no, if this site has to keep asking me for money when sites that are almost dead NEVER have then there is something wrong, just ask RPG maker VX Ace how they stay up, I never notice ads on them

dude rpgmakerweb is a storefront with a forum attached. their income is several order of magnitudes higher than RMN's (which is basically non-profit anyway).

author=Craze
yeah, tbh i barely noticed the difference between no ads and ads. i didn't even really appreciate it until now i guess? i donated to rmn to beg for people who participated in lockez & i's event to get MS/badges, not to skip the ads.

shayoko
i can't vote as none apply to me.
i do not mind the ads. i understand the need for them.
but i am not interested in them and don't really have free money to spend on things that are not necessary to survive.

they do not get in the way or even delay/make the experience tedious.
like background audio which you cannot stop is the worst.
ads like on YT where is plays a short video before a video click is fine too.

in any case do what you feel you need to do. this is one for my most visited sites i come to daily. i would be sad if it went away as it and its community has changed gaming for me. for the better.

i wouldn't worry about not being able to donate -- you add a lot to the community, especially as a consistent gamepage visitor. rmn would be worse without you!

Lato
no just no, if this site has to keep asking me for money when sites that are almost dead NEVER have then there is something wrong, just ask RPG maker VX Ace how they stay up, I never notice ads on them

dude rpgmakerweb is a storefront with a forum attached. their income is several order of magnitudes higher than RMN's (which is basically non-profit anyway).

Very true RPG Maker web is all of those things, I said RPG maker VX Ace...

I tend to dislike advertising and advertisements in general, and RMN's are no exception. Yet I am also a hypocrite, since I do not block RMN's ads because I want the site to get all the financial support it can, and because I also know that I literally never click on any ad links whatsoever anyway.
So while on the one hand, I do understand and support RMN trying to gain all the revenue it can, no matter whether that is used for site upkeep or other fun but less essential things, I am annoyed by the fact that some of the ads shown are for things like shady download sites or dubious dating portals etc. This is why I really like options 2 and 3 you listed, kentona, as this way the ads would at least be relevant to the focus of the site itself, and the groups behind those products would be known to you. It seems to me like that would be a good compromise and an improvement.

I am not using an adblocker persay, but I use noscript, because no site should ever be allowed to just run javascript on a computer willy nilly. Now, that means I don't see any ads - I have enabled it for RMNet now so I do.

Possibly get some ads that aren't Javascript based, and put them in noscript tags, so that people without Javascript still get ads?

no just no, if this site has to keep asking me for money when sites that are almost dead NEVER have then there is something wrong, just ask RPG maker VX Ace how they stay up, I never notice ads on them

RMNet is much busier than VXAce .net. Considerably moreso. It has a much more resource intensive core, too, what with it hosting games and shit.

HBGames meets its costs mainly from donations but I normally pay the monthly hosting fee and keep the rest as surplus for emergencies/contests. But again, it is a much less resource intensive site.

author=kentona
Guys I am extremely sorry that I am not wealthy enough to fully fund RMN on my own.


Like, seriously sorry.


So very very sorry.

You should be.

I mean...

Ads are fine. I expect a website of this size to have ads.

1) would you be aghast at the prospect of a regular funding drive on RMN?

Not really. You could even throw in a yearly achievement so people could donate, say, $10 each year to get a new badge or something. Just to encourage donations. I haven't been able to donate since I've had like three surgeries/procedures to pay off, but there's always next year.

2) what are you thoughts on RMN selling their adspace directly to someone like Degica for them to hawk things you might actually want, like DLC or engines or whatever?

Indirect ad selling is the reason I use ad-blockers. I've seen things that are probably questionably legal pop up on some websites before I started using ad-blockers. So selling directly saves you from potential responsibility in the event of a hack, and looks much better. If I knew I was guaranteed to see RPG Maker-related ads, much like PlayStation or Xbox does with their home screen ads, then I probably wouldn't mind turning off my ad-blocker.

3) what about RMN selling their adspace directly to people to hawk their games and projects??

Love it. Love everything about it. Now when people show up in the forums and start advertising their unfinished Kickstarter-rejected commercial games and link to a totally different website you could just go "That will be $15 please."

Out of curiosity, what kind of monthly ad revenue do you think you'd need to totally get rid of ads altogether? Most of us posting in this thread don't see them because we're donors, but it doesn't hurt to consider the thousands of visiting game-seekers. The main page is already pretty busy without scantily clad boobies peddling cheap Korean MMORPGs.

we have no idea how to price it, but were thinking like a buck or two for a week as part of a rotation/pool of about a half dozen user "ads"/banners...? We are totally open to suggestions

pfft. Too cheap. I'd buy the whole pool myself. If I had that many games. Or even one.
If it was $1/day, I'd still buy a spot, and rent it all year, every year. That should give you a starting point as to what kind of revenue that alone could generate. Considering the unanimous support this idea's been getting, maybe another poll is in order.

author=Dyhalto
If it was $1/day, I'd still buy a spot, and rent it all year, every year. That should give you a starting point as to what kind of revenue that alone could generate. Considering the unanimous support this idea's been getting, maybe another poll is in order.

With 6 people in the pool, 0.84 bucks a day would already be enough to completely cover rmn's hosting fee. I'm not sure if everyone would be willing to pay that much, since that does translate to 25 bucks a month, but there's certainly a lot of potential there.

I think a new poll is indeed in order. One with the question how much people would be willing to pay for this.

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