HOW OLD DO I HAVE TO BE TO SELL MY GAME COMMERCIALLY?

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Ratty524
The 524 is for 524 Stone Crabs
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So... You realize Davenport's answer was a guess, right?

Just check with whatever site you want to distribute your game on, in their rules section. If they don't have an age restriction, then you're all set!
author=pianotm
You're worried about somebody stealing your content. Nothing on Earth can prevent that. Plagiarism is a fact of nature.

You own everything you create; this is the concept of copyright. As long as you can prove that you created the content in question, you don't need to file with the state: that is merely a fee so that you can have the government's endorsement of your work. Filing for copyright is ideal, but if you can publish the game with someone like Steam, that is equally effective in securing proof of copyright. The point is that if somebody plagiarizes you, you need definitive documentation to show to a court. You don't need the government's copyright office for that: it's just an extremely convenient service they provide. State and federal law allow anyone of any age to file for copyright (though I do believe that you are a minor, you do have to have somebody act as Power of Attorney. A parent is sufficient Power of Attorney in this regard.) If you choose the government copyright office, it's the best way to protect your work, but it costs money, $35-55 if you do it yourself, or $250-500 if you hire an attorney, so really, have something worth copyrighting.

As for private organizations such as Steam, terms like "Power of Attorney" mean nothing. Unlike the government, if restricting you based on age is one of their arbitrary rules, then you cannot publish with them until you are of age, and that's that.

Okay, thank you?

@Ratty
Yes, so if they don't have a section on age then I'm good right?
I'm not sure about age, but if you wish to sell on, say Steam, you need to pay a one-time fee of US$90 first. Then you can upload as many games that you've created as you like.

You also of course need a Steam account to upload a game, and to create a Steam account, you need to be at least 13 years old. So that's one. Another thing is that it depends on the law of your country.

I think it's best that you consult your parents first before even selling anything, though. Don't just do this sort of thing without talking to your parents first.
author=eplipswich
I'm not sure about age, but if you wish to sell on, say Steam, you need to pay a one-time fee of US$90 first. Then you can upload as many games that you've created as you like.

You also of course need a Steam account to upload a game, and to create a Steam account, you need to be at least 13 years old. So that's one. Another thing is that it depends on the law of your country.

I think it's best that you consult your parents first before even selling anything, though.

My parent doesn't care, but okay I'll make a new account with my real age.
You know, if you add it to RMN there'd be documented history for you to fall back on since we time-stamp everything AND you'd have witnesses who know for fact that you made x game.

Also, people aren't going to steal your ideas when they have a billion of their own. Quite a few newbies worry about this and it's not something that you need to worry about that much. People will be inspired by your games, but that's true of games like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy Whatever, but the chances of someone stealing your game and slapping their name on it is slim. I think we've had maybe two instances of it in the past 10+ years, if that. So... I think you're safe.
author=Liberty
You know, if you add it to RMN there'd be documented history for you to fall back on since we time-stamp everything AND you'd have witnesses who know for fact that you made x game.

Also, people aren't going to steal your ideas when they have a billion of their own. Quite a few newbies worry about this and it's not something that you need to worry about that much. People will be inspired by your games, but that's true of games like Chrono Trigger and Final Fantasy Whatever, but the chances of someone stealing your game and slapping their name on it is slim. I think we've had maybe two instances of it in the past 10+ years, if that. So... I think you're safe.

Okay then, but I think I want to make significant progress on the game first.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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Selling your work has nothing to do with copyrighting it.

In the US (and in almost every other country on Earth), any creative work you make is instantly and automatically copyrighted the moment you create it. No action on your part is necessary.

As pianotm said, if you want to be able to sue people who plagiarize your work, you do need to register it with the US Copyright Office. Registration costs $35, and it takes them about eight months to get back to you. There's no actual reason to register if you're not planning on suing someone though. Registering your work the moment you create it does not offer any advantage. You can wait to register your copyright until after someone actually infringes it, and it doesn't affect your legal options at all.
author=LockeZ
Selling your work has nothing to do with copyrighting it.

In the US (and in almost every other country on Earth), any creative work you make is instantly and automatically copyrighted the moment you create it. No action on your part is necessary.

As pianotm said, if you want to be able to sue people who plagiarize your work, you do need to register it with the US Copyright Office. Registration costs $35, and it takes them about eight months to get back to you. There's no actual reason to register if you're not planning on suing someone though. Registering your work the moment you create it does not offer any advantage. You can wait to register your copyright until after someone actually infringes it, and it doesn't affect your legal options at all.

Okay, but I think I'll still put my game on Steam Greenlight
Good luck then. Remember, you need to pay a one-time fee of US$90100. And you need a bank account of your own. Both for Steam Greenlight.

I don't know where you're going to get the $90100, though. Unless you're already working or you don't plan to put your game on Steam Greenlight right now.

EDIT: Make that US$100. $90 is for my country. Check here: http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/faq/ for all the terms and conditions.
author=eplipswich
Good luck then. Remember, you need to pay a one-time fee of US$90100. And you need a bank account of your own. Both for Steam Greenlight.

I don't know where you're going to get the $90100, though. Unless you're already working.

EDIT: Make that US$100. $90 is for my country. Check here: http://steamcommunity.com/greenlight/faq/ for all the terms and conditions.

Hmm, it seems I get money for no price at all^_^
SunflowerGames
The most beautiful user on RMN!
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Steam might have regulations like other websites, but with enough tech savvy you can make your own website to sell your game on. Though you still need a way to collect the money. Most minors need help opening bank accounts, and I'm not even entirely sure you could open a Paypal account. But with enough effort anything is possible.

Edit:

As for copyright, I think the USA has pretty strict laws about stuff like stealing other people's intellectual property. Though your parents would need to represent you in court likely (This wouldn't necessarily stop someone from a country far far away.) I doubt anyone will try to steal your game.


And the first step is to actually make a game.
charblar
"wait you made this a career?"
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People have all gone over the basics of steam greenlight but think of it this way

1) Can you at least fill out a 1040EZ tax sheet on your own? (or your countries easiest tax form)
2) Well guess what you're gonna be filling out more complicated ones.
3) If that doesn't appeal to you then don't do it.

Edit: Also you'll need a company registration number to sell on steam to go with your tax forms.

TAXES!
author=charblar
People have all gone over the basics of steam greenlight but think of it this way

1) Can you at least fill out a 1040EZ tax sheet on your own? (or your countries easiest tax form)
2) Well guess what you're gonna be filling out more complicated ones.
3) If that doesn't appeal to you then don't do it.

Edit: Also you'll need a company registration number to sell on steam to go with your tax forms.

TAXES!

Okay, it was going to happen someday, wasn't it?
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
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Taxes are easy enough, especially if you get a program like TurboTax.

But y'know, in the future if you have legal questions, you should probably not bring them to a forum full of non-lawyers. You can pretty easily find out this stuff by consulting a lawyer or even just some googling about things like copyright.

Try doing your own research before using the forum as your personal encyclopedia, if only because mostly we don't know much better than you.
author=Sooz
Taxes are easy enough, especially if you get a program like TurboTax.

But y'know, in the future if you have legal questions, you should probably not bring them to a forum full of non-lawyers. You can pretty easily find out this stuff by consulting a lawyer or even just some googling about things like copyright.

Try doing your own research before using the forum as your personal encyclopedia, if only because mostly we don't know much better than you.

I did do my own research, before I asked here. I had been looking into the subject about a year prior to asking.
Sooz
They told me I was mad when I said I was going to create a spidertable. Who’s laughing now!!!
5354
And yet you could not find the answer to an extremely simple question? What kind of research skills are they teaching kids these days?!
author=Sooz
And yet you could not find the answer to an extremely simple question? What kind of research skills are they teaching kids these days?!

I wasn't sure where to look, and by the way I can't tell if that's supposed to be an insult or not. Either way, I don't really care.
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