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LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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CloseRe-reading the thread with the knowledge that oddRABBIT was scum, I don't see anything particularly telling in his interactions with anyone else. He points vaguely at Hexatona and Cave in a wishy-washy way. If he was wishy-washy because planned to change his mind later then that means one of them is scum, but if he was wishy-washy because he was afraid of sounding too forceful then that means they're both town. I can't tell which is the truth.
What I do see is oddRABBIT posting actual content for the first time in his mafia career. With the knowledge that he's scum, this makes me think he might've been getting coached by the other two members of the scum team on what sorts of things to post. However, Shinan is basically AFK this game. If someone was coaching oddRABBIT, it clearly wasn't Shinan. So, that makes me think Shinan's less likely to be scum.
Ozzy is acting exactly like scum and Gourd is acting differently from how he usually acts, so those are my top lynch choices right now. I feel extremely sure that CAVE_DOG is town at the moment.
#lynch OzzyTheOne
What I do see is oddRABBIT posting actual content for the first time in his mafia career. With the knowledge that he's scum, this makes me think he might've been getting coached by the other two members of the scum team on what sorts of things to post. However, Shinan is basically AFK this game. If someone was coaching oddRABBIT, it clearly wasn't Shinan. So, that makes me think Shinan's less likely to be scum.
Ozzy is acting exactly like scum and Gourd is acting differently from how he usually acts, so those are my top lynch choices right now. I feel extremely sure that CAVE_DOG is town at the moment.
#lynch OzzyTheOne
odd was a pretty good townie last game and was pretty on the ball for the majority of the game. I don't really think he was being coached because. he didn't do anyting.
psy_wombats
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Yeah odd did well last game, which is why I originally balked at the suspicion that immediately came his way when he started, well, actually playing mafia.
@LockeZ: Gourd is very likely town. He got the seer item, which only town can get. Do you think he's lying about that? In this case, someone must've gotten the doctor-flavored powerup last night. It'd be a very clever play to make if scumteam received the doctor item, then decided to lie about which they received to confirm one of them -- they'd just need to wait to see if the real seer item was given out (and it wasn't, because there was a nightkill). It'd be a really fun play but I think odds are gourd is just town.
@LockeZ: Gourd is very likely town. He got the seer item, which only town can get. Do you think he's lying about that? In this case, someone must've gotten the doctor-flavored powerup last night. It'd be a very clever play to make if scumteam received the doctor item, then decided to lie about which they received to confirm one of them -- they'd just need to wait to see if the real seer item was given out (and it wasn't, because there was a nightkill). It'd be a really fun play but I think odds are gourd is just town.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
oh wait cap already did edit the first post.
Crystals:
Force field -Makes player untouchable for a night.
Bomb -Can kill another player of his/her choice.
Orb -During night phase can ask me on another player. This item is always held by a townie.
this seems pretty clear to me that the orb is the only thing townies can have and scum can have w/e else
this is why it can be beneficial to have someone else look over your setup
author=Cap_H
So, I'm back. I'm really sorry, I hadn't time to check on the thread for some twelve hours. Here are votes:
6 votes
Kloe(Shinan, YM, Cave, Psy, Ozzy, Hexatona)
2 votes
Hexatona (Piano, IF)
OddRABBIT (Gourd, LockeZ)
1 vote
Yellow Magic -IvoryJones
IvoryJones -Kloe
Kloe is lynched.Kloe was a town.
I'll write more in the morning. I hate changing rules during a game, but broom/orb can be obtained by scum too. I'll change it in the initial post.
Sorry, I'm too tired to post more right now.
It looks to me like Cap_H just hadn't updated the OP with the new rules yet. They have been changed now. Scum can get the orb, so Gourd is not cleared, and psy_wombats is only cleared if Gourd ends up being town.
This unfortunately means Gourd is never going to get nightkilled, regardless of whether he is town or not, because scum knows that doing so will confirm someone else. We need to either lynch Gourd or a vigilante needs to bomb him. Doing so will confirm whether or not psy_wombats is town.
Sorry Gourd. You gotta take one for the team.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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I wasn't in the last game. If OddRABBIT has stopped being useless then my point about Shinan is nullified.
Regarding all these accusation of me coaching Hex, if Hex is scum and not town, it could very well be anyone that took part of the last mafia game.
Everyone that was active in the last mafia game knew I pulled the "Newbie" card by the end of the game. So anyone that took part of the last game could've coached Hex on how to play, if Hex is scum.
I don't know why psy has such a high interest in me, but I guess he's still traumatized from last game.
Everyone that was active in the last mafia game knew I pulled the "Newbie" card by the end of the game. So anyone that took part of the last game could've coached Hex on how to play, if Hex is scum.
I don't know why psy has such a high interest in me, but I guess he's still traumatized from last game.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Maybe it was an item that he forgot he deleted.
I feel like Shinan and Ivory lynches would be almost a waste since it wouldn't really inform us of much, since they participate so little. Or, at least, that's what I think from gathering what you guys have said regarding informative votes.
Okay, brass tacks, let's have a look at some of the people's post logs...
I'm leaning less towards YM because YM DID consider the Cave Dog suicide plan (while aknowledging it's possible downsides), which makes me give him points.
Ozzy because he seems pretty gung ho at going after the people Piano was suspecting without even considering that it might have been a total diversion.
and Infection because he seemed to be subtly nudging a Cavedog vote when he seems to be the most competent one in mafia games.
... Having said that, I can't say I feel so strongly about it. Infection was really trying to get a day 1 lynch, which as I understand it is beneficial.
I'd say Ozzy and Ivory, but honestly at this rate Ivory will be mod killed so it might be better off focusing on someone else for now.
Obviously, take this a with a big old slab of salt because Ozzy and Infection suspected me quite a bit and honestly it looks pretty suspecious if I finger them ( ;-_-)
Okay, brass tacks, let's have a look at some of the people's post logs...
I'm leaning less towards YM because YM DID consider the Cave Dog suicide plan (while aknowledging it's possible downsides), which makes me give him points.
Ozzy because he seems pretty gung ho at going after the people Piano was suspecting without even considering that it might have been a total diversion.
and Infection because he seemed to be subtly nudging a Cavedog vote when he seems to be the most competent one in mafia games.
... Having said that, I can't say I feel so strongly about it. Infection was really trying to get a day 1 lynch, which as I understand it is beneficial.
I'd say Ozzy and Ivory, but honestly at this rate Ivory will be mod killed so it might be better off focusing on someone else for now.
Obviously, take this a with a big old slab of salt because Ozzy and Infection suspected me quite a bit and honestly it looks pretty suspecious if I finger them ( ;-_-)
also i heavily disagree with designating gourd as a nightkill. first of all, that won't clear anyone. if scum got the orb, they could just fake the result. 2nd, i don't really think it's a good idea to try to confirm townies by killing other townies. i don't think hex is scummy in the first place either so I don't see the point in faux-confirming him.
i've also had weird thoughts about gourd this game but i have those every game
i've also had weird thoughts about gourd this game but i have those every game
If you do actually want to kill me during the night that's fine I guess?? You could also take my word for it and not kill a townie (read: Me)!
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i've also had weird thoughts about gourd this game but i have those every game
This is how YM x cave happened. O.o I am being a bit more jokey this game I suppose although that may be from my avatar (or because I thought the orb cleared me).
Also, it may help if LockeZ clarifies what part of my behavior he's taken issue with. He's left it relatively vague, so there's not really anything for me to refute.
psy_wombats
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I think he means the orb, yeah.
@LockeZ: Welp. I missed the rule change. That makes things complicated. Gourd is back on the table for me then, clearing me would be an easy reason to just have me killed tonight.
@Ozzy: I'm interested in you because your attempts at scumhunting have been nonsensical and very unconvincing. I don't think just anyone who played last game would suggest the strategy. May I remind you it ultimately was not a winning play -- you lost because you wound up in a situation with no other unconfirmed players. The person who suggested it would be someone who was proud of that game, probably (you) or else someone with a history of suggesting-milking-newbie-status (IF, who did it that game).
Do you think hexatona is scum or not?
@LockeZ: Welp. I missed the rule change. That makes things complicated. Gourd is back on the table for me then, clearing me would be an easy reason to just have me killed tonight.
@Ozzy: I'm interested in you because your attempts at scumhunting have been nonsensical and very unconvincing. I don't think just anyone who played last game would suggest the strategy. May I remind you it ultimately was not a winning play -- you lost because you wound up in a situation with no other unconfirmed players. The person who suggested it would be someone who was proud of that game, probably (you) or else someone with a history of suggesting-milking-newbie-status (IF, who did it that game).
Do you think hexatona is scum or not?
hold on a fucking second
theres three mafia
theres three people with sunglasses avatars
yeah nice try you clods. someone nightkill gourd.
theres three mafia
theres three people with sunglasses avatars
yeah nice try you clods. someone nightkill gourd.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACKIt's not Hexatona I'm interested in confirming, it's psy_wombats. Gourd "investigated" him and found him to be town. If Gourd flips town then he was telling the truth, he really had the orb, and psy is confirmed town. If Gourd flips scum, then we haven't learned anything useful about psy, but we killed a scum (Gourd). It's win/win.
also i heavily disagree with designating gourd as a nightkill. first of all, that won't clear anyone. if scum got the orb, they could just fake the result. i don't think hex is scummy in the first place either so I don't see the point in faux-confirming him.
author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i don't really think it's a good idea to try to confirm townies by killing other townies.
I would not suggest this plan if I thought Gourd was probably town. In fact I think he's acting weird anyway. As I said at the top of page 21, he was my #2 pick to lynch even before I thought of this plan.
psy_wombats
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Gourd you've been a little more proactive, less cautious, and yeah, more joke-y. Don't get me wrong I thing it's fine, it's just /different/ so that's what's throwing people. I noted it, but I don't think it's particularly scummy.
Also I'm not sure scum would try to be misleading like with this post https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/21383/?post=769839#post769839 because it's so easily disproved. Not the greatest tool to reason with but it's just something else to consider.
Also I'm not sure scum would try to be misleading like with this post https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/21383/?post=769839#post769839 because it's so easily disproved. Not the greatest tool to reason with but it's just something else to consider.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
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author=Gourd_ClaeIn most mafia games you are extremely helpful. In this one, so far, you are goofing around and wasting your time.
Also, it may help if LockeZ clarifies what part of my behavior he's taken issue with. He's left it relatively vague, so there's not really anything for me to refute.
@Cave If that reasoning hits home, you'll be my hero CAVE. Well, I suspect Gourd more than I do Hex, but maybe they're both scum?
@Psy I was not proud of that game, at least not on how I played it. I could've played it better. Besides, this game I'm trying to scumhunt on my own, while last game I just followed other peoples logic.
@Psy I was not proud of that game, at least not on how I played it. I could've played it better. Besides, this game I'm trying to scumhunt on my own, while last game I just followed other peoples logic.
