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Closeauthor=kory
My question to you is was the USA revolution necessary?
Sure. Not objectively, but the people wanted it, they fought for it, and serendipity was gracious enough to give it to them, and here we are. I don't think it's a right or wrong answer; a bunch of people wanted their autonomy and were willing to go to bat for it.
author=kory
What sort of place would the USA be if it had a British parliament instead of the one it has now?
Probably not the preeminent superpower of the world like it is now, but I don't think anyone back then had any way of knowing that either way.
cavemank
66
I think that what Marx was talking about is inevitable so long as the relationships between owners of production and labourers are maintained.
Sometimes, people are quick to forget that Marx was an economist, not a political theorist--meaning that his concern (and subsequently, the focus of the Communist Manifesto) is about the behaviour of corporate entities. I mean, of course these things are all connected, but I just think the solution to the flag-kneeling argument is specifically political, and has less to do with economic relationships.
Also, towards the whole veteran argument, it's like black people have fought in every one of America's war, and after every one despite putting their life on the line for their country, they return to being treated sub humanely by it. lol like have they forgotten people can be both black AND a veteran?
Sometimes, people are quick to forget that Marx was an economist, not a political theorist--meaning that his concern (and subsequently, the focus of the Communist Manifesto) is about the behaviour of corporate entities. I mean, of course these things are all connected, but I just think the solution to the flag-kneeling argument is specifically political, and has less to do with economic relationships.
Also, towards the whole veteran argument, it's like black people have fought in every one of America's war, and after every one despite putting their life on the line for their country, they return to being treated sub humanely by it. lol like have they forgotten people can be both black AND a veteran?
author=cave
I think that what Marx was talking about is inevitable so long as the relationships between owners of production and labourers are maintained.
Sometimes, people are quick to forget that Marx was an economist, not a political theorist--meaning that his concern (and subsequently, the focus of the Communist Manifesto) is about the behaviour of corporate entities. I mean, of course these things are all connected, but I just think the solution to the flag-kneeling argument is specially political, and has less to do with economic relationships.
Sure, I get that.
I just think the argument of "we need a marxist revolution!!!" usually seems to come from cheeto eating suburbanites who have never done or tried to affect any change whatsoever, and it just sounds like the easiest thing to say.
A lot of those type of people have never been to a rally of any kind, never donated to a cause, never volunteered their time to a cause, hell, never even voted, even locally. Never done shit. But they be like, from their computers, mind you, "WE NEED TO BURN DOWN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA WORK...but you go first tho"
lol fuck outta here
author=cave
Also, towards the whole veteran argument, it's like black people have fought in every one of America's war, and after every one despite putting their life on the line for their country, they return to being treated sub humanely by it. lol like have they forgotten people can be both black AND a veteran?
Ain't that the truth.
cavemank
66
author=Feldschlacht IV
I just think the argument of "we need a marxist revolution!!!" usually seems to come from cheeto eating suburbanites who have never done or tried to affect any change whatsoever, and it just sounds like the easiest thing to say.
A lot of those type of people have never been to a rally of any kind, never donated to a cause, never volunteered their time to a cause, hell, never even voted, even locally. Never done shit. But they be like, from their computers, mind you, "WE NEED TO BURN DOWN THE SYSTEM BECAUSE THAT'S THE ONLY THING THAT'S GONNA WORK...but you go first tho"
lol fuck outta here
lol yeah true. I think the complexity of what's to come is what makes me the most uncomfortable. "The system" is so divided and occluded that even if you wanted to do some damage, you would have to go so far to even begin. It's like voldemort and his horcruxes
