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DANGANRONPA 3 FORBIDDEN ACTION MAFIA! [GAME OVER]
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demonlord5000
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Being my first game, my deduction could be wrong, but to me it seemed like psy was killed to get town to focus me. My reasoning is that psy didn't focus on gourd much except for him not revealing his action, so he could escape notice. If gourd is scum it is a risky play, but it does severely reduce towns numbers if it did succeed.
I could just be overthinking things too as a new player.
I could just be overthinking things too as a new player.
it is however equally likely that demon and gourd are together on this
again however i may be looking into fas too much but if frogge is using the fas as a kind of balancing act keeping demon and gourd from voting the same keeps them as potential mafia from lynching during the day and killing at night
this depends largely on how frogge is playing these fas
making them seem like nonsense but some may tilt scales throughout the game
thats what i would do
again however i may be looking into fas too much but if frogge is using the fas as a kind of balancing act keeping demon and gourd from voting the same keeps them as potential mafia from lynching during the day and killing at night
this depends largely on how frogge is playing these fas
making them seem like nonsense but some may tilt scales throughout the game
thats what i would do
You tend to jump on that 'this is my first game' excuse a bit. Just because something is your first time doesn't mean you don't know how the game is played - you've looked through past games you said, which means you'd have a pretty decent idea on how mafia can play and mess with people. That doesn't exclude you from being mafia and making basic plays at all.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
I'm really annoyed how few people voted yesterday. This game doesn't work if you don't vote for people. People are posting plenty, but not actually voting!
I'm convinced Hikitsune is town, because voting for someone and then immediately feeling bad and unsure about it and cancelling in the very next post is such a legit thing to do in your first game as town. It's not a good way to play, but it's such a very natural reaction because you don't realize yet that most of your votes are expected to be wrong.
I'm also fucking astonished that Yellow Magic is alive. He confirmed himself as proven town, and established that he had a power by which he could confirm anyone he wanted as proven town simply by saying something like "Dear Liberty: LockeZ is scum." Frogge changed his forbidden action overnight, but scum didn't know that was going to happen, and the only way he could possibly have been left alive is if they knew he wouldn't do that.
Therefore, either Yellow Magic is scum and was lying about his first forbidden action, or the scum team is extremely incompetent.
Right now I still think it's more likely that they're incompetetnt, especially with the large number of new players in the game. There are three brand new players left, plus oddRABBIT who's only been scum once before and died on the first night in that game, and I think that there are probably only two people left on the scum team. But if we run out of newbies later and Yellow Magic is still alive, we should re-evaluate his proof.
I'm convinced Hikitsune is town, because voting for someone and then immediately feeling bad and unsure about it and cancelling in the very next post is such a legit thing to do in your first game as town. It's not a good way to play, but it's such a very natural reaction because you don't realize yet that most of your votes are expected to be wrong.
I'm also fucking astonished that Yellow Magic is alive. He confirmed himself as proven town, and established that he had a power by which he could confirm anyone he wanted as proven town simply by saying something like "Dear Liberty: LockeZ is scum." Frogge changed his forbidden action overnight, but scum didn't know that was going to happen, and the only way he could possibly have been left alive is if they knew he wouldn't do that.
Therefore, either Yellow Magic is scum and was lying about his first forbidden action, or the scum team is extremely incompetent.
Right now I still think it's more likely that they're incompetetnt, especially with the large number of new players in the game. There are three brand new players left, plus oddRABBIT who's only been scum once before and died on the first night in that game, and I think that there are probably only two people left on the scum team. But if we run out of newbies later and Yellow Magic is still alive, we should re-evaluate his proof.
^ This I am down with.
I was going to bring up that YM could have been lying about his FA all along just to try and get people to think he's town by claiming not being able to lie but the gong rang for day out before I could post again. Basically, keep in mind that just because someone says their FA is x/y/z doesn't actually mean it is.
Except me. Mine is over and done with. Believe it or not as you will, though, since none of us can actually really determine if anyone is telling the truth or not. There's no powers to bounce truth/lies off in this game. We could pretty much play this as a vanilla game and not lose any sleep because that's pretty much what it is, bar a few inconveniences with posting.
What point was I trying to make? Oh, right, don't trust anyone at face value, even the noobies. Doesn't take much to read up on previous games or play a few rounds of Town of Salem.
I was going to bring up that YM could have been lying about his FA all along just to try and get people to think he's town by claiming not being able to lie but the gong rang for day out before I could post again. Basically, keep in mind that just because someone says their FA is x/y/z doesn't actually mean it is.
Except me. Mine is over and done with. Believe it or not as you will, though, since none of us can actually really determine if anyone is telling the truth or not. There's no powers to bounce truth/lies off in this game. We could pretty much play this as a vanilla game and not lose any sleep because that's pretty much what it is, bar a few inconveniences with posting.
What point was I trying to make? Oh, right, don't trust anyone at face value, even the noobies. Doesn't take much to read up on previous games or play a few rounds of Town of Salem.
Yeah, five didn't vote. It's like the elections all over again. Also, I'm inclined to agree that Hikitsune Red canceling his vote looks like nervous newbie town now that IF flipped town.
Calling out our non-voters: Nessy, Racheal, Hikitsune, Gourd_Clae, and oddRABBIT.
Speaking of Gourd_Clae not voting, is that your FA, or are you just not voting because of demon's FA?
Calling out our non-voters: Nessy, Racheal, Hikitsune, Gourd_Clae, and oddRABBIT.
Speaking of Gourd_Clae not voting, is that your FA, or are you just not voting because of demon's FA?
the reason im hesitant to kill is moot because of the players here
thats not an offensive statement just a difference in play style
you see mafia is statistically dangerous for townies when random lynching is the norm
mafia is outnumbered and as such are less likely to be lynched when a name is moreorless drawn out of a hat putting townies at a disadvantage as they kill their own members and have townies killed at night
instead of losing one member a day they lose two because they are so driven to catch mafia early rather than find some sort of tell
however that being said it is still a better bet to random lynch in a vanilla game as no one who is killed is a loss of special role as telling tells in a forum game is nigh impossible
unless again frogge is hiding some beneficial fas in amongst random ones
regardless i suppose youre right it may be more beneficial to just keep swinging the proverbial axe until a mafia members head comes off
thats not an offensive statement just a difference in play style
you see mafia is statistically dangerous for townies when random lynching is the norm
mafia is outnumbered and as such are less likely to be lynched when a name is moreorless drawn out of a hat putting townies at a disadvantage as they kill their own members and have townies killed at night
instead of losing one member a day they lose two because they are so driven to catch mafia early rather than find some sort of tell
however that being said it is still a better bet to random lynch in a vanilla game as no one who is killed is a loss of special role as telling tells in a forum game is nigh impossible
unless again frogge is hiding some beneficial fas in amongst random ones
regardless i suppose youre right it may be more beneficial to just keep swinging the proverbial axe until a mafia members head comes off
i also wouldnt say im a mafia newbie
been playing this game for years
just a new set of players and a whole new venue
it all calls for different thinking
been playing this game for years
just a new set of players and a whole new venue
it all calls for different thinking
demonlord5000
680
I'm aware it's not an excuse or excludes me from being scum, but just reading through a game isn't necessarily giving you the full experience of it either. I only meant that as acknowledgement that I could be thinking about things the wrong way.
That said, I'm all for any other theories. I do agree there are quite a lot of non-voters, and many people who are pretty inactive. Makes it hard to form an opinion of them.
That said, I'm all for any other theories. I do agree there are quite a lot of non-voters, and many people who are pretty inactive. Makes it hard to form an opinion of them.
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
I think one of the three people who voted for InfectionFiles yesterday is probably scum. And my guess would be Demonlord, both because A) I think it's very likely that there's at least one newbie in the scum team, and B) because he was the last one to vote.
At the point where InfectionFiles had two votes and everyone else had one, the scum team knew that one last-minute vote for another person could change the outcome. If any of the people who had one vote were scum, then someone on the scum team pretty much HAD to vote for InfectionFiles, just in case.
This isn't a guarantee, but I think it's pretty likely, and if it turns out to be true then we will also know that one of the other people who had a single vote on day 1 was scum. So it seems like a very solid lynch to me.
#lynch Demonlord9000
At the point where InfectionFiles had two votes and everyone else had one, the scum team knew that one last-minute vote for another person could change the outcome. If any of the people who had one vote were scum, then someone on the scum team pretty much HAD to vote for InfectionFiles, just in case.
This isn't a guarantee, but I think it's pretty likely, and if it turns out to be true then we will also know that one of the other people who had a single vote on day 1 was scum. So it seems like a very solid lynch to me.
#lynch Demonlord9000
author=pianotm
Yeah, five didn't vote. It's like the elections all over again. Also, I'm inclined to agree that Hikitsune Red canceling his vote looks like nervous newbie town now that IF flipped town.
Calling out our non-voters: Nessy, Racheal, Hikitsune, Gourd_Clae, and oddRABBIT.
Speaking of Gourd_Clae not voting, is that your FA, or are you just not voting because of demon's FA?
That is a ridiculous number of non-voters. No regrets if we lose this time round
My new forbidden action (I hope it is clear by now) makes me feel that Liberty has to be town, otherwise no offence Frogge but this is the silliest game of Mafia ever
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
Archaea_Nessiah I can almost forgive for not voting if her forbidden action is real. It'd mean she's unable to really explain anything, or to ask anyone questions.
I guess her forbidden action is going to become a less serious problem as the game goes on, since she'll be able to respond to a higher percentage of remaining players... though it's be if Liberty dies and she just becomes completely unable to post, that's going to just be almost the same as removing her from the game. Hopefully Nessy's forbidden action is the next to randomly change.
Liberty, in the meantime, just make posts where you quote anything said by other people that you think is worth letting her respond to, and respond to those quotes with generic messages like "Hmm yes this is a post that was made."
I guess her forbidden action is going to become a less serious problem as the game goes on, since she'll be able to respond to a higher percentage of remaining players... though it's be if Liberty dies and she just becomes completely unable to post, that's going to just be almost the same as removing her from the game. Hopefully Nessy's forbidden action is the next to randomly change.
Liberty, in the meantime, just make posts where you quote anything said by other people that you think is worth letting her respond to, and respond to those quotes with generic messages like "Hmm yes this is a post that was made."
im going to have to agree with lockez rationale on this
that and i am regrettably a bit suspicious slash curious if im right about frogge throwing in legitimate gamechangers
well and people are upset about me not voting soooooo
sorry but #lynch demonlord9000
that and i am regrettably a bit suspicious slash curious if im right about frogge throwing in legitimate gamechangers
well and people are upset about me not voting soooooo
sorry but #lynch demonlord9000
I have given this a bunch of thought.
And yet I still can't help but notice that we're no closer to really knowing who scum is. Here we are at day three with no clue of who scum could be (ah, look at that! I was a poet and I didn't know it.). So, if our scum team didn't know YM, why would they want to kill him?
Yeah! Great idea! And then he's wrong and he dies! Best power ever! Fer sure! Great reason to kill YM: so he doesn't get himself killed trying to out scum!
So, here I am BACK on Hikitsune.
So, does any of this show that Hikitsune is scum? Not in the least, but it does demonstrate that we absolutely cannot count him out, and...new set of players. Who is he supposed to kill? Backing off a vote? Why not? A bunch of other people are voting, so someone other than him is going to die anyway.
Now, notice that these last few times he's posted, he hasn't been writing in Haiku, and yet he did the brief time he was here through day one and almost all of day two. Clearly not associated with his forbidden action. So why is an experienced mafia player writing in haiku, knowing full well, as any experienced player would, that it will help throw off analyses of his posts?
Does THIS show that Hikitsune is scum? Well, it's not conclusive, but it's starting to look good, don't you think?
What is the case against demonlord, really? Scum killed psy, who was voting for demonlord. Demon realizes that this could be done to make him look bad, so tries to shift onto Gourd. Sure, it can be called scummy, but why would he take that chance in the first place?
If it's not Hikitsune, then my suspect list is:
Liberty
LockeZ
Yellow Magic
Gourd_Clae
demonlord is very low on my suspect list, and that's only because it's wise to suspect everyone.
And I'm sure I'm on at least some of your lists, if not all of your lists.
Secondary possibility? This was a two scum game and one of those non-voters didn't vote in order to lie low and hope that we kill off most of town for him/her now that Kloe's off the board.
For now,
#Lynch Hikitsune-Red
LockeZ
I'm also fucking astonished that Yellow Magic is alive.
...
Yellow Magic is scum and was lying about his first forbidden action, or the scum team is extremely incompetent.
And yet I still can't help but notice that we're no closer to really knowing who scum is. Here we are at day three with no clue of who scum could be (ah, look at that! I was a poet and I didn't know it.). So, if our scum team didn't know YM, why would they want to kill him?
aLockeZ
He confirmed himself as proven town, and established that he had a power by which he could confirm anyone he wanted as proven town simply by saying something like "Dear Liberty: LockeZ is scum."
Yeah! Great idea! And then he's wrong and he dies! Best power ever! Fer sure! Great reason to kill YM: so he doesn't get himself killed trying to out scum!
So, here I am BACK on Hikitsune.
Hikitsune-Red
i also wouldnt say im a mafia newbie
been playing this game for years
just a new set of players and a whole new venue
it all calls for different thinking
So, does any of this show that Hikitsune is scum? Not in the least, but it does demonstrate that we absolutely cannot count him out, and...new set of players. Who is he supposed to kill? Backing off a vote? Why not? A bunch of other people are voting, so someone other than him is going to die anyway.
Now, notice that these last few times he's posted, he hasn't been writing in Haiku, and yet he did the brief time he was here through day one and almost all of day two. Clearly not associated with his forbidden action. So why is an experienced mafia player writing in haiku, knowing full well, as any experienced player would, that it will help throw off analyses of his posts?
Does THIS show that Hikitsune is scum? Well, it's not conclusive, but it's starting to look good, don't you think?
What is the case against demonlord, really? Scum killed psy, who was voting for demonlord. Demon realizes that this could be done to make him look bad, so tries to shift onto Gourd. Sure, it can be called scummy, but why would he take that chance in the first place?
If it's not Hikitsune, then my suspect list is:
Liberty
LockeZ
Yellow Magic
Gourd_Clae
demonlord is very low on my suspect list, and that's only because it's wise to suspect everyone.
And I'm sure I'm on at least some of your lists, if not all of your lists.
Secondary possibility? This was a two scum game and one of those non-voters didn't vote in order to lie low and hope that we kill off most of town for him/her now that Kloe's off the board.
For now,
#Lynch Hikitsune-Red
LockeZ
I'd really like to get rid of LockeZ. His play style is way too unpredictable. He's always like this too. If he ran a country, he'd just kill and imprison people at random until crime stopped.
5958
author=pianotmaLockeZYeah! Great idea! And then he's wrong and he dies! Best power ever! Fer sure! Great reason to kill YM: so he doesn't get himself killed trying to out scum!
He confirmed himself as proven town, and established that he had a power by which he could confirm anyone he wanted as proven town simply by saying something like "Dear Liberty: LockeZ is scum."
Not that it's relevant now, because he lost the power, but yes, sacrificing yourself to out a member of the scum team is a great move. If we do that twice, we win with 7 people left alive. If his power hadn't changed I was going to suggest he just start going down the list of people, claiming each one was scum, until he died.
Except if he dies, he hasn't outed anyone. Guessing and rolling the dice and you only get one shot? That's no better than just leading a bandwagon, except with a bandwagon, if you're wrong and lynch town, you still make it to the next day phase provided you don't get night killed.
