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CloseYeah, we've had a serious problem with gerrymandering since the Supreme Court threw out article 4 of the Voting Rights Act.
So now that they know that the Russians directly interfered with the election AND unsealed documents show that Comey violated the Hatch Act and interfered with the election, does that at all invalidate the election? Will the USA hold another vote?
author=kentona
So now that they know that the Russians directly interfered with the election AND unsealed documents show that Comey violated the Hatch Act and interfered with the election, does that at all invalidate the election? Will the USA hold another vote?
We have to sit through ANOTHER ONE!? I mean I get that if it was rigged that it sorta has to happen but do they start from the end or do they have to redo the last like half a year or a year or something?
author=kentona
So now that they know that the Russians directly interfered with the election AND unsealed documents show that Comey violated the Hatch Act and interfered with the election, does that at all invalidate the election? Will the USA hold another vote?
No, nothing short of an act of God will stop Trump from being President (to my displeasure). They're going to go through the path of least resistance.
If you want to get strictly into the letter of law, this means that Trump, either knowingly or unknowingly, violated the law in securing his election. There is actually no precedent for this, so what has to happen is completely uncharted territory. I think a re-vote wouldn't be in the spirit of a republic. What I personally think should happen is an investigation and if it turns out Trump did know about Russia's activities prior to the election, an impeachment hearing should move forward.
Unfortunately, this is a republican congress with a republican president. They would literally let him get away with murder. Worse, if he was successfully impeached, Pence would be president, and that man is the textbook example of a vile monster.
From the textbook (there is no textbook):
Vile monsters often hide behind a kind face--good family man, a stand up citizen--but this is all to hide their true hideousness. A vile monster will often recommend electro-shock treatment (electrocution pretending to be medical treatment) for people who don't adhere to his personal religious beliefs, or they will attempt to redefine rape, so that there is no such think as marital or prison rape, and so that only "forced" rape (I kid you not) is illegal, all to restrict access to reproductive medical services.
Unfortunately, this is a republican congress with a republican president. They would literally let him get away with murder. Worse, if he was successfully impeached, Pence would be president, and that man is the textbook example of a vile monster.
From the textbook (there is no textbook):
Vile monsters often hide behind a kind face--good family man, a stand up citizen--but this is all to hide their true hideousness. A vile monster will often recommend electro-shock treatment (electrocution pretending to be medical treatment) for people who don't adhere to his personal religious beliefs, or they will attempt to redefine rape, so that there is no such think as marital or prison rape, and so that only "forced" rape (I kid you not) is illegal, all to restrict access to reproductive medical services.
Red_Nova
Sir Redd of Novus: He who made Prayer of the Faithless that one time, and that was pretty dang rad! :D
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author=pianotm
If you want to get strictly into the letter of law, this means that Trump, either knowingly or unknowingly, violated the law in securing his election.
I'm a little confused by this. How exactly did Trump violate the law if Russia came in and messed with the election? It's a different matter entirely if Trump somehow knew about this and didn't say anything, but which law are you saying Trump broke?
No, he's saying that that is the only way an election could be invalidated. I guess if it is found that Trump was somehow in collusion with Russia, it could happen, but an investigation into that could take months.
Being in collusion with a foreign power to win an election is probably against the law, tho.
But closer to home, it was James Comey who broke the Hatch Act. (also has the best name: officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities)
Being in collusion with a foreign power to win an election is probably against the law, tho.
But closer to home, it was James Comey who broke the Hatch Act. (also has the best name: officially An Act to Prevent Pernicious Political Activities)
author=kentona
No, he's saying that that is the only way an election could be invalidated. I guess if it is found that Trump was somehow in collusion with Russia, it could happen, but an investigation into that could take months.
author=Solitayre
Donald Trump is going to be president. At this point, a recording of a phone call between Donald Trump and Vladimir Putin could be released by the CIA, where in exchange for the DNC emails to be leaked to the press Trump promises that America will not act if Russia invades Estonia. And then Trump could confirm 'yes, that was a real conversation that happened.' and Putin could confirm 'Yes, that was a real conversation that happened.' And even then, Trump would still be inaugurated.
You'd think they'd have a system in place (or a plan at the very least) for outside interference, especially since only Americans are allowed to vote. At the very least a revote of some kind.
But I guess we are talking about America where freedom is just a word bandied about in order to look good, and being fair isn't a priority. :/
But I guess we are talking about America where freedom is just a word bandied about in order to look good, and being fair isn't a priority. :/
Thank you, Russia. After a hard fight you beat the bad guys back like in WW2, saving many american lives.
author=InfectionFiles
Thank you, Russia. After a hard fight you beat the bad guys back like in WW2, saving many american lives.
We're gonna have a laugh about this one later, trust me.
Dyhalto
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Am I missing something? Has there been proof produced in the last day or two proving Russian interference in the election? Last I heard, the CIA was accusing them of it without evidence and the FBI tenuously endorsed their claim (after a week or so of outright refuting it).
Really now. The US tried to do a color revolution in Russia back in 2012. This is sauce coming back for the gander. Not that revenge is a good reason for interfering in the internal affairs of sovereign states, but you get the idea.
Really now. The US tried to do a color revolution in Russia back in 2012. This is sauce coming back for the gander. Not that revenge is a good reason for interfering in the internal affairs of sovereign states, but you get the idea.
Only thing that needs to be said:
The election of Donald Trump offends me as a vegan transgender atheist who vapes and crossfits 4 times a week.
In all seriousness, people have been watching way too many netflix shows and bad 90s films. There's no conspiracy and there never will be. Putin crossfits too much to be worried about Trump.
The election of Donald Trump offends me as a vegan transgender atheist who vapes and crossfits 4 times a week.
In all seriousness, people have been watching way too many netflix shows and bad 90s films. There's no conspiracy and there never will be. Putin crossfits too much to be worried about Trump.
Lol, that's a... pretty lazy joke, Dec. It's like someone's impression of a story told to them secondhand by someone who saw some memes about Tumblr once but wasn't really paying attention.
And it's not like it has to be a big conspiracy like a movie. Governments interfering with each other happens all the time, we just think that United States is above it, lol. But considering how frequently the government bends to outside influence, whether it be from other gov'ts shaping us so our leaders will suit their liking, or American corporations threatening to take their jobs elsewhere unless our politics caters to them over the people.
And it's not like it has to be a big conspiracy like a movie. Governments interfering with each other happens all the time, we just think that United States is above it, lol. But considering how frequently the government bends to outside influence, whether it be from other gov'ts shaping us so our leaders will suit their liking, or American corporations threatening to take their jobs elsewhere unless our politics caters to them over the people.
author=slash
Lol, that's a... pretty lazy joke, Dec. It's like someone's impression of a story told to them secondhand by someone who saw some memes about Tumblr once but wasn't really paying attention.
And it's not like it has to be a big conspiracy like a movie. Governments interfering with each other happens all the time, we just think that United States is above it, lol. But considering how frequently the government bends to outside influence, whether it be from other gov'ts shaping us so our leaders will suit their liking, or American corporations threatening to take their jobs elsewhere unless our politics caters to them over the people.
of course it was lazy - it was 5am :D
"In the intelligence business, we would say that Mr. Putin had recruited Mr. Trump as an unwitting agent of the Russian Federation."
~former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency
~former deputy director of the Central Intelligence Agency
