Full Games List
Featured Games
New Games
Reviews
Media
Images
Blogs
Game Updates
Images Feedback Summary
Game Design Highlights
Tutorials
Articles
Scripts
Utilities / Plugins
Resources
Engines
Engine Bulletins
What is Makerscore?
Past Events
Achievements
Misaos
Forums
Post History
Chat
New to RMN?
Full Store List
RMN Music Pack (free)
[FUN] WORLDBUILDING 101: BUILDING TYCHO
Posts
NoblemanNick
View playlists
Closeauthor=Blitzen link=topic=2263.msg39483#msg39483 date=1224804714
Nick, I really like your article but there are some continuity errors that we should fix before we go any further.
Firstly, I suppose it should be assumed that the Vach tribes united into the Vach Confederacy as a result of thier defeat at the hands of the Embrian/Altyrian forces after the Grand Rediscovery. This being so, Lariat's War would have been against the Kingdom of Embria, and part of the impetus of this war was to defeat thier claim to Tykran's Crown of the Old Empire. ( I guess this interpretation makes King Tykran now Emperor Tykran of the Old Empire.) The Vach themselves would not have had a claim to the crown because they were never a part of the Old Empire, but perhaps an alliance with another power could be part of thier motive? (We'll probably have to expand upon or re-write the article on Lariat's War.)
The Vach were temporarily fighting against the Old Empire, but that was around a thousand years before the Vach Confederacy, Lariat's War, or Pallas March.
A good way to retcon your article would be to adjust it so that
1) Lariat's War took place 435 to 441 D.C. Change the Old Empire to the Kingdom of Embria. The Old Empire is long gone. Kornrike could start rebel groups within or around what USED to be the Old Empire, but is now colonial provinces of the Kingdom of Embria.
2) Because of the time confusion, you might want to have Kornrike live in Veriag (which is in the Embrian colonial provinces, same place as to what was once the Old Empire)
3) Because of the date of inception of the Vach Confederacy, which was formed sometime before Lariat's War, and one can assume its formation as a partial result of the loss at the hands of the Embrian/Altyrians, (in the days of the Old Empire the Vach may just have been a collection of tribes) this should play a role. Kornrike can have the somewhat Otto Von Bismark/William Wallace role as the uniter of the Vach tribes.
4) We could use this article as the oppourtunity to make Ferien the capital of the Vach Confederacy (or an area beyond or beside the Vach Confederacy)and the end of the Great Market Road.
5) If Kornrike died at 98 after Lariat's War ended in 441, and the present day is 450, you should be able to place his birthdate between 339 and 347.
1) Alright I changed to the Kingdom of Embria, and had Kornrike wanting to reinsatate the new empire.
2) Embrain colonist took over his wandering nomad tribe the Kasha Tribe and force them to settle in Veriag.
3) Kornrike would help start the Vach Confederacy by rallying the Vach tribes and would become a important strategist.
4) I made Kornrike one of the founders of the Vach capital, the Kasha Tribe could be said to have settled there and integrate into the Vach tribes.
5) I don't want to pinpoint his dates exactly, since he is an important religious figure and a prophet so it usually goes that religious figures and/or prophet's dates are a mystery and in turn interperated upon those who would study him.
Blitzen
3253
Looks good. I should explain the geography and a bit of history to people writing articles, and that so far we are dealing with two continents:
In the west, we've the Brehaig, Xeitas (the province where Veriag is), Altyra. These are lost provinces of the Old Empire reclaimed by Embria after the Grand Rediscovery, and are now Embrian colonial provinces. In the west we also have the Vach Confederacy (whose capital is Ferien, and whose territory covers the Kasha desert), to the south and west of these provinces. We could say that in Lariat's war, the Vach only invaded the Brehaig (which I imagine is to the east-south-east of Xeitas, and Altyra (where Mount Altyra is) is to the north and north-east of the Brehaig. I think we can assume that either the Brehaig or Altyra have coastal shores where the Embrians had landed and settled the city of Allox. In the east we also have the unplaced Battle of Xeitas, but we know that it involved Embria in some respect (it could be part of the wars with the Vach of the Grand Rediscovery, or Lariat's War, or another war altogether). Most of the development we've done on Tycho has been in this area.
In the west, we have the Kingdom of Embria (within which is the capital(Rychas?), the city of Verchess, the village of Haria), the Kingdom of Rochemont (where the city of Rocci, the former capital of the Old Empire, lies), and god knows what else (both the Kingdom of Agar and the "Rebellion of the Foss" are located in the West.)
In the west, we've the Brehaig, Xeitas (the province where Veriag is), Altyra. These are lost provinces of the Old Empire reclaimed by Embria after the Grand Rediscovery, and are now Embrian colonial provinces. In the west we also have the Vach Confederacy (whose capital is Ferien, and whose territory covers the Kasha desert), to the south and west of these provinces. We could say that in Lariat's war, the Vach only invaded the Brehaig (which I imagine is to the east-south-east of Xeitas, and Altyra (where Mount Altyra is) is to the north and north-east of the Brehaig. I think we can assume that either the Brehaig or Altyra have coastal shores where the Embrians had landed and settled the city of Allox. In the east we also have the unplaced Battle of Xeitas, but we know that it involved Embria in some respect (it could be part of the wars with the Vach of the Grand Rediscovery, or Lariat's War, or another war altogether). Most of the development we've done on Tycho has been in this area.
In the west, we have the Kingdom of Embria (within which is the capital(Rychas?), the city of Verchess, the village of Haria), the Kingdom of Rochemont (where the city of Rocci, the former capital of the Old Empire, lies), and god knows what else (both the Kingdom of Agar and the "Rebellion of the Foss" are located in the West.)
Blitzen
3253
That's good Nick, but the Kingdom of Embria didn't conquer the Old Empire. Instead, the Empire collapsed, and Embria reclaimed the lost territory when it discovered the land hundreds of years later. Also, I think it would suit the narrative best if you changed the language of the article from
"A great war that was advocated by Master Lariat and the prophet Kornrike of the Vach Confederacy, this war was mainly fought to retain the holy crown from King Tykran of the Old Empire which had been conquered by the new Kingdom of Embria."
to
"A localized war that was advocated by Master Lariat and the prophet Kornrike of the Vach Confederacy, this war was mainly fought to delegitimize the claim made on the Holy Crown of the Old Empire by the Kingdom of Embria."
You should include also in this Kornrike's motivations for war (what seems like his moral crusade and more nationalistic aims). We should also try and work out why Lariat and the Vach would want to delegitimize the Embrian claim to the crown by trying to conquer the provinces of Xeitas, Altyra, and the Brehaig. Kornrike's motivations are good and should be seen as a primary motivator, but like I was saying, we should sort out maybe some kind of international political reason why (an alliance with another Embrian rival?) they would want war in addition to those.
Also remember that the war took place between the Vach and the Embrian Colonial Army, not the Royal Embrian Army, which I would imagine is still back in Embria, doin' stuff.
"A great war that was advocated by Master Lariat and the prophet Kornrike of the Vach Confederacy, this war was mainly fought to retain the holy crown from King Tykran of the Old Empire which had been conquered by the new Kingdom of Embria."
to
"A localized war that was advocated by Master Lariat and the prophet Kornrike of the Vach Confederacy, this war was mainly fought to delegitimize the claim made on the Holy Crown of the Old Empire by the Kingdom of Embria."
You should include also in this Kornrike's motivations for war (what seems like his moral crusade and more nationalistic aims). We should also try and work out why Lariat and the Vach would want to delegitimize the Embrian claim to the crown by trying to conquer the provinces of Xeitas, Altyra, and the Brehaig. Kornrike's motivations are good and should be seen as a primary motivator, but like I was saying, we should sort out maybe some kind of international political reason why (an alliance with another Embrian rival?) they would want war in addition to those.
Also remember that the war took place between the Vach and the Embrian Colonial Army, not the Royal Embrian Army, which I would imagine is still back in Embria, doin' stuff.
