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NHL 2017 STANLEY CUP PLAYOFFS / POOL PREDICTION THREAD

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author=Addit
I’m a bit late on this, but whatevers:

Player Pool Update:

The Ottawa Senators have just punched their ticket to the Eastern Conference Finals by defeating the New York Rangers in 6 Games.

GreatRedSpirit is the only one who predicted a Senators win, and receives 2 Points for his prediction. GreatRedSpirit also picks up 2 Additional Points for 4 Points Total for correctly predicting that not only would the Senators win that series in 6 but that they would also move on, too.

GreatRedSpirit is now currently in the driver seat with a grand total of 20 points coming into what may be the final group of games to determine a possible winner of the pool.

- The full bracket and standings have now been updated!

All right…so here’s how it goes for tomorrow:

  • If the Penguins somehow avoid the collapse and beat the Capitals tomorrow in Game 7, Addit, Ankylo and Cap_H would all then be officially eliminated from contention, and GreatRedSpirit would win the pool flat out right there, regardless of what happens in the Oilers and Ducks game.

  • However, a Capitals win combined with an Oilers win would then officially eliminate both Ankylo and GreatRedSpirit from contention, setting up a final showdown between Cap_H and Addit for the title in the next round.

  • And, finally, a Capitals win combined with a Ducks win would then officially eliminate Cap_H from contention, and it would then setup a three man race between Addit, Ankylo and GreatRedSpirit, with the next round determining the winner (or winners) of the pool.

Gentlemen…I wish you the best of luck tomorrow. :)

I am also absolutely out of point sources now. 20 is where I'll live or die! Also I'm still cheering for the Oilers despite risking losing because I'll take Alberta winning the cup since Calgary can't and fuck Anaheim.

e: editing in addit's post so it isn't lost on the last page
how is Bizarro Kentona doing?
Last I scored him he was at 19 so I'm pretty sure he's running away with the lead at this point:

1st Round
Predators over Blackhawks In 4: Winner and games and champs pick, +8
Blues over Wild In 7: Winner, +2
Flames over Ducks In 5: 0
Sharks over Oilers In 4: 0
Leafs over Capitals In 6: # of games but not winner, +1
Penguins over Blue Jackets In 4: Winner, +2
Rangers over Canadiens In 6: Winner and games, +4
Senators over Bruins In 4: Winner, +2

2nd Round
Predators over Blues In 4: Winner and champs pick, +4
Flames over Sharks In 5: 0
Leafs over Penguins In 4: 0
Senators over Rangers In 6: Winner & Games: +4

Conference Finals
Predators over Flames In 6
Senators over Leafs In 4

Stanley Cup Finals
Predators over Senators In 5

Stanley Cup Champion
Predators


How does 27 sound?
Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
3702
As long as I beat Kenton, I'm good.
author=Hexatona
As long as I beat Kenton, I'm good.

there is an 87.9% chance I am coming in last


I am glad betting on Nashville pulled me through again! especially with the flame's immediate burn out. Although maybe next year we should change up how we do it to do each round as it comes instead of the whole thing all at once. That way it isn't over before it's halfway done.
Addit
"Thou art deny the power of Aremen?!"
6394
Game 7
Pittsburgh 2 @ Washington 0 - FINAL



Playoff Pool Update:

The Pittsburgh Penguins have managed to avoid the collapse of being up three games to one and hold on by defeating their arch-nemesis, the Washington Capitals, in 7 Games, and now move on to the Eastern Conference Finals.

Addit is the only one here to receive any points in this matchup, as he receives a Bonus Point for predicting that Washington would at least make it to 7 games in this round. And since Washington was his Stanley Cup Pick – The Points Here Are Doubled For 2!

Along with the Penguins moving on, the Anaheim Ducks manage to just get by the Edmonton Oilers in a hard fought 7 Game victory to move on to the Western Conference Finals.

Ankylo & Shinan both receive 2 Points each for predicting that the Ducks would win that series. Cap_H also picks up a Bonus Point for predicting that the series would at least go to 7.



And with all that being said - congratulations, GreatRedSpirit, for the second year in a row, you are the Pool Predictor Champion for 2017! Despite a shaky start with both your Stanley Cup Pick being eliminated in the first round, along with your other finalist being eliminated as well early on, you managed to claw your way back and pick up some valuable points towards the end of the second round to pass Cap_H for the victory. Well done! You’ll be receiving your Brent Burns Beard Award achievement as soon as possible.

- The full bracket and standings have now been updated!
Addit
"Thou art deny the power of Aremen?!"
6394
Man, I’m so disappointed; I really thought that this was going to be the Capitals year this year, but I guess not... I’m guessing the owner of the Capitals must be hitting the booze real hard right now, lol.

But congratulations, GreatRedSpirit, you did it again...despite the Flames and Blue Jackets being long gone before the end of the first round.

And, hey, I managed to get the same number points that I did last year with 14, but at least I came in third place this time around compared to fourth place last year. Progress!

author=Hexatona
As long as I beat Kenton, I'm good.

Hey, you did. Congrats!

Kentona had the worst drop off in points this year out of everybody: he had 22 in 2016, which was good enough for 2nd place overall, and went all the way down to 6 points total this year for last place. If Edmonton had managed to win tonight, there then would have been a small chance that he could have gotten more than 10 points to finish off the pool and maybe even passed Hexatona and Shinan for 5th place overall - but alas...that was not meant to be.

author=GreatRedSpirit
Although maybe next year we should change up how we do it to do each round as it comes instead of the whole thing all at once. That way it isn't over before it's halfway done.

The only problem that I see with doing that, with picking teams before and after each round and not just picking them all at once like we’ve been doing this whole time, is that the player or players in the lead coming into the conference finals or finals might just pick the same teams and number of games as the player or players below them in the standings that are still mathematically in it to reassure them the win. At least with picking them all at once, there’s a greater chance that type of stuff won’t happen, so I like how things are currently going right now. Besides, this year came down to the wire in the second round between half the players in the pool, compared to last year were it just came down to just two, so I think this type of format is still working pretty good.

I have been thinking of a possible addition we could do for next year where before the start of a game 3 you get two last minute changes that each player can use to switch out the outcome of your picks or use one of them to change the number of games a series will go to. The only downsides are that each last minute change you use will cost you a full point off your total, and you only get two of them for the entire pool to use, so there’s a bit of strategy of when or where to use them. Do you save them for the second round or beyond when they’re hardly any teams left, or maybe try to earn a ton of points off your Stanley Cup pick in a particular round by changing the correct number of games to something else? Either way, it's still a work in progress idea that I have, but it’s something that I was thinking about maybe implementing for next year. But I'm open to any ideas or possible suggestions.
Damn it, Edmonton. :\

The teams I'm supporting are dropping like flies.
author=UPRC
Damn it, Edmonton. :\

Same.

Though, truth be told, they exceeded expectations for the year! They really established themselves.

If Eberle or Nuge remembered how to to score, they could have gone further. Alas, one (or both?) of them are gone. Maybe their 1st round draft pick will be able to make the jump next year and plug up that right hand shot/finisher role Edmonton lacked.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Yeah, I'm glad that Sens are still kicking.

And Congrats GRS! I like that your optimistic predictions won this.
Hexatona
JESEUS MIMLLION SPOLERS
3702
Good job GRS!

Addit
The only problem that I see with doing that, with picking teams before and after each round and not just picking them all at once like we’ve been doing this whole time, is that the player or players in the lead coming into the conference finals or finals might just pick the same teams and number of games as the player or players below them in the standings that are still mathematically in it to reassure them the win. At least with picking them all at once, there’s a greater chance that type of stuff won’t happen, so I like how things are currently going right now. Besides, this year came down to the wire in the second round between half the players in the pool, compared to last year were it just came down to just two, so I think this type of format is still working pretty good.

The easy solution for this is to submit your brackets in private to whoever is running it (aka you). Once you get all the brackets you can post them for public viewing. Don't allow changing a bracket after you made them public for the reason you posted above, even if it costs points it can be worth it to keep a lead. Repeat for each round.

e: This is also assuming the person running it isn't corrupt and use their position to see other's picks and then make theirs but I trust ya and we're below beer league level. /e:

It's true that this year it was a nailbiter to the end but after Pittsburgh won that was the end of it. The Edmonton/Anaheim game didn't matter and neither do the last three series. I don't mind the format but I do think it'd be more interesting if every round was something new and fresh. Poor first round choices removes a player entirely, new picks each round means they can at least keep playing and even have a chance at a comeback.
Yay Nashville! Go all the way! I have no idea how they actually won that game
Bizarro Kentona kicked ass this year
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
Sens can do it.
Addit
"Thou art deny the power of Aremen?!"
6394
Yeah…it’s bit of a shame that the Senators couldn’t manage to pull it off in overtime and make it to the finals this year, as I definitely would have preferred a Senators and Predators series for sure - but, *sigh*, oh well, at least the Predators made it in…and that’s still pretty good, I guess.

Also, I’m not sure why the first game is going to be on a Monday instead of a Sunday instead. Wouldn’t it make a lot more sense to have the first game of a Stanley Cup Final start on a Sunday where there’s going to be a much larger audience be able to watch it? The NBA’s Finals are like that too this year as well, where the first game is on a Thursday and not a Friday or a Saturday instead. Stupid schedule, ugh.

I’m hoping Nashville takes it just so we can have a new cup champion this year, but my brain and gut is telling that Pittsburgh will probably repeat as champions again (...lame).

author=GreatRedSpirit
The easy solution for this is to submit your brackets in private to whoever is running it (aka you). Once you get all the brackets you can post them for public viewing. Don't allow changing a bracket after you made them public for the reason you posted above, even if it costs points it can be worth it to keep a lead. Repeat for each round.

It's true that this year it was a nailbiter to the end but after Pittsburgh won that was the end of it. The Edmonton/Anaheim game didn't matter and neither do the last three series. I don't mind the format but I do think it'd be more interesting if every round was something new and fresh. Poor first round choices removes a player entirely, new picks each round means they can at least keep playing and even have a chance at a comeback.

Yeah, we should probably do something like for next year to try it out for a change and see if it spices the game up a bit. Maybe even get rid of the double points multiplier for cup picks as well?

Either way, for next year, before we begin the next pool, we can discuss any possible format changes when the time comes, alright? In the meantime, let's just enjoy the slaughter. :)
I think one of the problems with the double point multiplier is that it helps create a snowball effect. If your cup pick gets anywhere you already have a lot of potential point sources appear that are also worth double while others may not even have a source of points. Bizarro Kentona got half their points just through picking the Predators.

One idea is if we do move to a round-based pool we could do a Stanley Cup pick that has the x2 multiplier but between each round you can give up a point to change it. There's still the possibility of changing it to maintain a lead but it isn't as big as picking an entire bracket though. Something to consider for next year, yeah.

Go Preds go! Slaughter the Pens! (lol, it'll be tough at best!)
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