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[MAFIA] THE EXORCISM OF MAFIAVILLE (GAME OVER)

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author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
your post seems to tacitly imply that you think I am town.


I believe you are town as much as you believed those other two roleclaimers were town.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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author=oddRABBIT
Did you not previously state that the "eyelid is closed", CAVE? What do you think that means, if you still seem to be receiving messages from Pazuzu?


i'm assuming it means no more investigative night action results.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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I have no clue anymore.
#lynch Shinan

This game is beyond me.
author=oddRABBIT
Though... I'm sure someone has mentioned this before, but... couldn't CAVE had made up his role?

I have thought this on and off for half the game, but I find it hard to imagine what it'd buy Cave to fakeclaim it. Gourd confirmed cave "wasn't mafia" though so I'm only worried about it as a possible flag to scum that he's the vessel, but I guess it wasn't or we would've lost by now.

Although Pazuzu's info is dubious. I can't decide whether I think it's a scum investigative power or else some scum directly feeding misinformation to cave. With LockeZ dead that's less likely to me though.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
also, pazuzu is trying to convince me that if we kill me, there won't be a night kill tonight. which is...uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.

I don't get this. Is the implication that there won't be a nightkill because we'll have lost the game? ie saying there are two scum? Or is he implying you're performing nightkills and expecting you to argue against yourself in the topic?
Also @shinan -- are you implying that CAVE has a godfather hide-from-seer sort of ability? Because Gourd claimed he got a non-mafia result from cave, and if this is a recruitment/bodyswap sort of game, he wouldn't have been scum two nights in a row I don't think.

@DS - I guess you think pazuzu is a liar then?

Interested what cap thinks about a fixed vs fluid scumteam given LockeZ's death.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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I don't get this. Is the implication that there won't be a nightkill because we'll have lost the game? ie saying there are two scum? Or is he implying you're performing nightkills and expecting you to argue against yourself in the topic?


they are saying that they can turn me into a, uh, virgin sacrifice of sorts. so I would die but there would not be a nightkill.

this sounds like something that could have been very useful and maybe even believable when gourd was alive.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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@psy - I honestly just don't know what is going on. I have been so wrong about everything so far, and all the accusations and flavour shit flying around has been true or proven, despite sounding ridiculous, and I just can't even follow it anymore.
LockeZ was my next target, for Christ sakes.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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@psy - I honestly just don't know what is going on. I have been so wrong about everything so far, and all the accusations and flavour shit flying around has been true or proven, despite sounding ridiculous, and I just can't even follow it anymore.
LockeZ was my next target, for Christ sakes.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=psy_wombats
Also @shinan -- are you implying that CAVE has a godfather hide-from-seer sort of ability? Because Gourd claimed he got a non-mafia result from cave, and if this is a recruitment/bodyswap sort of game, he wouldn't have been scum two nights in a row I don't think.

@DS - I guess you think pazuzu is a liar then?

Interested what cap thinks about a fixed vs fluid scumteam given LockeZ's death.


My current idea is that there is a fixed team we need to kill. Possessed would be a delayed NK. The team is definitely smaller than 3 wolves.

LockeZ was kind of wolfy for last 2 days. But with my theory, it would return Gourd red yesterday, so fixed is the way to go. And I was silly forgetting the fact. Now, this might be important.
I can't imagine too many other ways the scum would be fluid in this game. Godfather is more likely.
Gourd could lie about his results, but I don't see how would he benefit from it. If he was traditional cop, he probably checked me and LockeZ. The rest of n1 results would be his townreads.

I think that information about Gourd and Dudesoft being different might be important. If there's scum in some traditional form I would go with dude/psy despite all arguments against it.
Shinan and Cave are possible loners. Shinan wouldn't vote his partner without being under pressure this late in the game.
Odd got back his old derp clear status.

author=Dudesoft
I have no clue anymore.
#lynch Shinan

This game is beyond me.

Why did you chose shinan and not psy?
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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So, on d3, Cave got information that Gourd and Dude are not the same. At the same time, Dudesoft came up with a comment that he would make a case on Gourd (I don't think that he ever did it). It might be a coincidence.
@CAVE: I'm pretty sure now either Pazuzu is feeding you bullshit for their amusement, or you're feeding us bullshit for your amusement.

@Cap: You're taking cave's demon's info at face value? And by delayed nightkill, you mean permascum recruit a temp scum into their ranks for one night, who then dies? That sounds reasonable but would also mean a scumteam of one. Two permascums plus a recruit would be game over right now. Sooo this would mean a setup of one godfather superscum (DS) and a seer who was incapable of ever scumhunting.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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we may have to murder shinan no matter what
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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#cancel

New theory: Cave is playing us like a fiddle.

@Cap_H: I have no reason. I had a list of 3 I suspected, and one was LockeZ. He's dead. But I have been proven copiously to not know wtf I am doing here, so it's a crapshoot at this point.
CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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well, you would have to believe that i am a godfather type role, and brought up the possibility of a godfather type role in gourd's results unprompted. and it would not really make any sense to claim a pr if you were a godfather since you would want to draw investigations.



CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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anyone else have the feeling that jeroen and piano are going to have to be banned from game design after this

also since I don't think pazuzu is really capable of deep subterfuge and is trying to get me to vote myself, as one other person is voting me, I am assuming it's shinan.

CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
On sunny days, I go out walking
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nothing about this game makes any sense. pazuzu is a liar trying to get me to murder myself so im assuming that gourd's results are actually accurate. hell guide my hand 666 subscribe for pazuzufacts #lynch shinan
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK (1): shinan
shinan (1): CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
It makes no sense to me why anyone would NOT vote for cave at this moment.

As for delayed nightkills I don't believe in that. After all someone died night 1. The most reasonable explanation is that the werewolf jumps from person to person. It has been dismissed multiple times as a really bad design decision but that seems to be the game. With that in mind there's really no way to get a read on anyone.

Except for one that is. The one permanent werewolf. It is objective FACT that the person who has been most detrimental to town this game is Cave. He should have died a long time ago.
I had forgotten that with demonlord dying d1, scum would've had to recruit on night 0. So going back to the theory that's either demonlord or the newly dead scum that picks the target.

shinan, are you denying being pazuzu? I'm still in the air if cave's role is BS or not.
Dudesoft
always a dudesoft, never a soft dude.
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I #cancel'd