[MAFIA] PRISONER'S DILEMMA. GAME OVER

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author=Fomar0153
author=ivoryjones
He hasn't replied yet. I was getting him to talk.
Me? Your post had nothing to do with me talking. I came onto RMN to look at icons and saw that day 2 started early and then posted straight away.


That post was directed at odd.

Also, actually,

#Cancel
#Lynch fomar

After re-reading your post, I'm somewhat keen to lynch you again. Nice knowing you pal
I've been re-reading your posts and do found some of them odd actually, now that psy and lib both flipped scum. I have an early shift tmr and will probably post more when I get back.

Hoping that tale and AE talk more and no one gets hammered.
Uhh will probably be away for 12 hrs or so
Well, I am still onboard with either PA or Piano lynch for reasons I've said before.

Regarding fomar, considering a new player makes it more difficult. He has done a lot of rookie mistakes (including talking a LOT about mechanics). Psy did kind of stick up for him at one point in a tangential way (saying how he also would do stuff like running numbers and posting them). Although it was so minor I'm not sure it was really protecting scum buddy in an unobtrusive way.

He reads as very new player town or somewhat new scum, which isn't really helpful.

author=Fomar0153
author=pianotm
I thought Libby was just protecting him because she was scum chosing a townie to protect to make herself look town, which is something I often do as scum, but in retrospect I think it's entirely possible that she was actually just trying to mitigate the fact that we were on all three scum on day one.

Did you just confess?
That seems like a poor reading. I think this is just "we were on all three scum on day one".
oddRABBIT
I feel bored. How odd.
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author=ivoryjones
He hasn't replied yet. I was getting him to talk.

author=oddRABBIT
I'm really trusting my gut here, but I don't really feel like PA is scum. Though, I guess a gut feeling doesn't really matter in this case? His "#lynch me" thing reminds me of my first Mafia game in which I think I might've done the same thing?

...Might've happened more than once with that, but I feel like it's more of an aggravated town move more than anything, trying to make sure that they get what they think is right? So, might want to hold off on that lynch for a moment, Ozzy.

Granted, I feel like Piano is a little scummy, at the very least.

Obviously, Ozzy is town, Ivory feels like town, so does Demonlord. Um, not sure about the rest.

Shinan feels super off, but...



How the hell am I just "feels like town". Kitten practically came out and said she protected me and no one got killed. That at the very least proves I'm town. Even without her doing that, I practically lynched psy AND got him to be bandwagoned on again. Scum doesn't fucking put their teammates to be lynched AGAIN once the heat got on another person and should have hammered the other one (aka shinan).

#Cancel
#Lynch odd


Sorry about that, it was bad wording on my part. I missed the whole thing with Kittenfood somehow.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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AlaskanEmily
Well, I am still onboard with either PA or Piano lynch for reasons I've said before.

Regarding fomar, considering a new player makes it more difficult. He has done a lot of rookie mistakes (including talking a LOT about mechanics). Psy did kind of stick up for him at one point in a tangential way (saying how he also would do stuff like running numbers and posting them). Although it was so minor I'm not sure it was really protecting scum buddy in an unobtrusive way.

He reads as very new player town or somewhat new scum, which isn't really helpful.

author=Fomar0153
author=pianotm
I thought Libby was just protecting him because she was scum chosing a townie to protect to make herself look town, which is something I often do as scum, but in retrospect I think it's entirely possible that she was actually just trying to mitigate the fact that we were on all three scum on day one.

Did you just confess?
That seems like a poor reading. I think this is just "we were on all three scum on day one".


He has done a lot of rookie mistakes that are pretty standard for a newbie, and ivoryjones does have a substantial history of preferring to target newbies (including me on my first game), but I'm getting a weird vibe off of a few his posts. I pointed out one back in day one, the one that started the spat between me and Liberty. The list he just posted is giving me weird vibes, too. I suppose it doesn't help that I can't help but think that one of the scum team is one of the new players. Kittenfood is confirmed town. That leaves Fomar and tale, and tale doesn't give me those weird vibes.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Well, I totally fucked up the tags on that post.
I don't know whether or not pointing out something Liberty said will improve or worsen my case but she said the scum have their own chat. If I were scum wouldn't it have made more sense for me to ask most of those questions there?

Also I at times had my lynch on both of them, though I confess the Liberty one was a simple lynching her back.
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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I'm going to sleep now, and I'll leave this here in case a train starts on piano.

#cancel
#lynch piano
PlatinumAshes
I am now certain that you are not scum and are just town trying to play scum as hard as possible.
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I'm not really sure what the case for Fomar is? He's said very little of note as far as I can tell. Can someone explain this to me? I'll read it tomorrow.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Fomar0153
I don't know whether or not pointing out something Liberty said will improve or worsen my case but she said the scum have their own chat. If I were scum wouldn't it have made more sense for me to ask most of those questions there?

Also I at times had my lynch on both of them, though I confess the Liberty one was a simple lynching her back.


This is actually a solid point. I think the only real counter to this could be that Liberty and psy might have told you to ask those questions here so that you look more like a newbie, but there's no real way to confirm that. It's enough that I can no longer justify my vote on you.

#cancel
#cancel

I've been re-reading yours and Libby's post and I just can't tell.

As for other suspects, PA I just don't have a clue how to read, Tale and Shinan are the ones we've heard the least from. Everyone else seems at least some what town-ish to me.
demonlord, You're knowledgeable with role balancing than me- how plausible for godfather to exist with scum-aligned rolecop?
According to you that role cop for scum gets extremely powerful. Vanilla scum was executed on first night phase.
But would role balancing apply with the whole prisoner's dilema?
OzzyTheOne
Future Ruler of Gam Mak
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Btw, I am going to give the thread a looksie from time to time, seeing as I do have a phone on me. But I won't post lost until I'm back home. Should focus mostly at class after all.
I doubt there's one. Roles were balanced with how many chose vanilla, and with one scum being vanilla, and the other having a pretty powerful role, I doubt the third ones a godfather. The reason scum role cop is so powerful is they can try to hunt down things like our detectives and then assassinate them. They already know who their team is, so alignment information is useless on the scum team, while role information becomes that much more powerful. The other reason role information is a handicap to us is that anything town reveals is also something that gets revealed to scum.

I'll scumhunt a bit later. I don't know if it's because it's storming pretty bad outside, but my connection to rmn is horrible right now. I try to flip through a page and I feel like it takes it 5 minutes to update.
The server was down just I think.
Could of been a mix. Storms died down a bit now so I started reading the thread again.

Right now my choices are: tale, formar, PA, or piano. The rest are either basically confirmed, town lean (emily), neutral, or useless (shinan). It's literally impossible to scumhunt someone who isn't trying to play the game. I'd like to see more posts from people before I decide anything.

Keep in mind that formars argument could have came from libertys posts. She literally gave us that exact other chat point before during the great piano/liberty debate.

https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24686/?post=887494#post887494

I'm still looking through to see what I can find.

author=demonlord5000
Keep in mind that formars argument could have came from libertys posts. She literally gave us that exact other chat point before during the great piano/liberty debate.


I did say as much when I used that argument.

Trying to find out more about potential roles, is this list any good for general information?
https://sites.google.com/site/mafiaroles/