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RELATIONS WITH THE GENDER OF YOUR PREFERENCE

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LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
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I've had this on my mind FAR too often lately, and I need to rant.

This topic is for the discussion of one's relation with the gender of one's choice, be it ?, ?, or both (craze). Mostly, this topic is for hte lifting of weights such as the one I now carry. There is to be no depreciation of any such view given herein.

Here I am, stuck in the "friend" zone.

To lay things out simple, there be a female at my school who I have eyes for. About my age, maybe a couple months older (i'm an april birth thus almost everyone in my grade level is older than me). She's get black hair down her back about to her waist. About up to my chin in height, and bespectacled. She's cute - REAL cute - so you can see my issue here.

However, she seems oblivious to my... attentions. I'm a mere friend to her - p'raps she hasn't known anyone who acts in my manner before (the way you see me speaking here is pretty much the way I speak in actuality), but I'm fairly certain she has more than an idea of what's going on.

The main issue, however, is that her mother is CHOKING EVERY FUCKING MINUTE OF TIME I CAN SPEND WITH HER. I can't barely manage two minutes here, five seconds in the hallway, maybe a half-hour after school should Lady Luck smile upon me. One can see very quickly how this can become frustrating. And too add to this, she's completely cool with it! She never sees a problems with being dragged home to mother's lair, out of the range of my attempts at socializing. Maybe - just maybe - she knows, and disapproves? That would be (simply put) devastating. Some mebers might recall:

author=ChaosProductions link=topic=1013.msg39252#msg39252 date=1224641061
The girl I haven't been able to stop thinking about for weeks has just today dropped the bombshell that has probably ruined my year:

"Let's just... be friends."

FUCK!

Same girl. New dilemma.



Now, how many of you want to share a similar tale? Or perhaps some of our members ASA managed to get their dream girl? Maybe they could relate a tale of personal triumph? POST!
First of all, this is a pretty good topic. Keep in mind like Chaos said, this is a general relationship topic. Post whatever you're thinking that pertains!

Chaos I also recommend changing the topics title to Relations with the Opposite Gender.

As for my advice, the biggest pitfall in getting a girl in your situation is that the guy is often so nice and careful that it works against him, and you never actually put yourself as a desirable prospect to the girl. In cases like this, you actually have to put it out there to the girl. No, I'm not talking about something like 'NICE SHOES WANNA FUCK', but if you fail to distinguish yourself as a friend then the girl will pretty much just...think you're a friend! If you want to get a girl as a girlfriend you have to put yourself out there as boyfriend material.

How well do you know this girl?
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
Pretty well. We shared a homeroom in ninth (myself being tenth this year).

One main thing I neglected to mention: NO NAMES. One's interest are to remain anonymous, even if it becomes completely obvious who is being referred to.

What about you, Feld? Certainly you have tales of the Fairer Gender to share with us! The idea of this tpoic was for everyone to share their stories, not just me!
Chaos, the more you move into friend territory, the deeper a hole you dig from which you can't get out of.

You want to get them to notice you, you have to be confident, pro-active, and make sure you don't shoot yourself in the balls by becoming so much of a friend they remove you from the list of prospects altogether.

Also, don't smother em', either. You call too much or you seem too desperate to hang with them, they will sense that like sharks can sense blood even if it's diluted 50000 times, and if there's one thing that'll turn a chick off QUICK, it's desperation.

LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
I'm still waiting for someone else to post their experiences here. This isn't a one-shot Dear Abby love doctor kind of topic, It's a "hey let's swap tales of woe and triumph" sort of topic.
author=Asalieri link=topic=2473.msg44712#msg44712 date=1226895655
You want to get them to notice you, you have to be confident, pro-active, and make sure you don't shoot yourself in the balls by becoming so much of a friend they remove you from the list of prospects altogether.
Wanted to know why most of my relationships are online Chaos? I turned all teh girls I know irl into THAT -_-
Or is it all teh girls I know irl have turned ME into THAT? ??? Gramatical confusion!
author=ChaosProductions link=topic=2473.msg44736#msg44736 date=1226897527
I'm still waiting for someone else to post their experiences here. This isn't a one-shot Dear Abby love doctor kind of topic, It's a "hey let's swap tales of woe and triumph" sort of topic.

Hey, don't worry, you just made the topic a few hours ago! Hey, I have some stories to tell. Give me a little while, though.

Wanted to know why most of my relationships are online Chaos? I turned all teh girls I know irl into THAT -_-
Or is it all teh girls I know irl have turned ME into THAT? Huh Gramatical confusion!

Elaborate?
author=SuicideAngel link=topic=2473.msg44737#msg44737 date=1226897632
author=Asalieri link=topic=2473.msg44712#msg44712 date=1226895655
You want to get them to notice you, you have to be confident, pro-active, and make sure you don't shoot yourself in the balls by becoming so much of a friend they remove you from the list of prospects altogether.
Wanted to know why most of my relationships are online Chaos? I turned all teh girls I know irl into THAT -_-
Or is it all teh girls I know irl have turned ME into THAT? ??? Gramatical confusion!

Can't really blame the women if you yourself offered to be "too nice" to them.

See chaos? That's why I don't liek talking about realtionships - it's my fault, I know it, and others just confirm it...
So I ask again, can you elaborate? As in like a paragraph?
harmonic
It's like toothpicks against a tank
4142
author=Asalieri link=topic=2473.msg44741#msg44741 date=1226898073
Can't really blame the women if you yourself offered to be "too nice" to them.

Haha, nice guy finishes last. Usually that phrase is a mischaracterization of:

"Guys with no risk/initiative usually aren't bold enough to get the girl, because some scumbag who wasn't taught critical thinking skills won't 2nd guess himself when approaching a woman, and will make no fuss about generating some sort of false mystique as an attraction tool, whereas the nice guy will wear his heart on his sleve, making him easy prey and thus, not appealing."
author=harmonic link=topic=2473.msg44751#msg44751 date=1226899457
author=Asalieri link=topic=2473.msg44741#msg44741 date=1226898073
Can't really blame the women if you yourself offered to be "too nice" to them.

Haha, nice guy finishes last. Usually that phrase is a mischaracterization of:

"Guys with no risk/initiative usually aren't bold enough to get the girl, because some scumbag who wasn't taught critical thinking skills won't 2nd guess himself when approaching a woman, and will make no fuss about generating some sort of false mystique as an attraction tool, whereas the nice guy will wear his heart on his sleve, making him easy prey and thus, not appealing."

This is most accurate.
Goddamn. Bravo, Harmonic. That's as good advice as you're gonna get, Chaos.
No Feld. It hurts me to talk about it, and it won't *solve* anything, so why bother? You guys knowing and critisizing me won't help anything -_- I know my faults, but I'm too nervous to do anything about them irl, so I compensate online.
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
Many thanks to all. Most of this was concurrent to what I was thinking, anyway.

author=ChaosProductions link=topic=2473.msg44736#msg44736 date=1226897527
I'm still waiting for someone else to post their experiences here. This isn't a one-shot Dear Abby love doctor kind of topic, It's a "hey let's swap tales of woe and triumph" sort of topic.
SuicideAngel: Problem is, you can't get layed online. (at least not in the truly SATISFYING way)

No need to be nervous, man. Always remember women are as human as men are, and prone to the same insecurities and second-guessing and self-consciousness as men are.

I know that >_< My mom keeps saying that whenever I mention a girl (the insecurity thing, not the layed thing XD)
It's not that I'm nervous about the girls - I'm nervous about changing myself. I'm pretty happy with how I am, I don't wanna change something to try and get a gf and lose all teh friends I have.
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
I've got a GF for you:

In all seriousness, it sounds like you have the dilemma I had last year. I wasn't open enough last year - My dilemma now, however, is the opposite - I might have been too open. That could be irrevocable.

:'(
SEE WHY I DON'T POST PERSONAL THINGS!?
This happens every forum I've ever been on, I post something personal, and I get made fun of. >:(

EDIT: I posted that before you added that other part -_-
LouisCyphre
can't make a bad game if you don't finish any games
4523
author=SuicideAngel link=topic=2473.msg44759#msg44759 date=1226900431
I don't wanna change something to try and get a gf and lose all the friends I have.
This won't happen. YOU HAVE MY GUARANTEE.