[MAFIA] SPY VS. MAFIA II DAY 3

Literally about to go out the door, Cap_H can you paraphrase the pm that gave you the item please?

Three of us have had items and know the style and type of description that goes with them. It's one way you might convince me that the item is real.

My understanding is that piano is "rolling" the items without any thought as to balance, so the game could still be in a winnable state with you as last scum + undaykillable if, uh, Odd hadn't been flushed.

Shouldn't hurt to verify.

#lynch cap_h

author=Fomar0153
Literally about to go out the door, Cap_H can you paraphrase the pm that gave you the item please?

Three of us have had items and know the style and type of description that goes with them. It's one way you might convince me that the item is real.

I can but I'd prefer not. The reason is simple. Paraphrasing PMs from moderator shouldn't be how we solve people in Mafia.

author=psy_wombats
My understanding is that piano is "rolling" the items without any thought as to balance, so the game could still be in a winnable state with you as last scum + undaykillable if, uh, Odd hadn't been flushed.

I strongly suspect that who gets what item is completely random.

Yeah @Cap I can't think of any scenario where Jeroen claims to be gray but is actually scum. His claim hasn't actually changed the course of the game. He didn't save anyone by claiming. His evidence hasn't eliminated anyone, and (mostly) hasn't incriminated anyone. He wasn't in danger of dying himself.

I would be curious to hear more from LockeZ before the end. And I guess if there is no chance of killing Cap, I would go for Cave.

But I'm kind of on board with just trying to lynch Cap anyway? He says he has this magical item which protects him, but like...that sounds way more powerful than the other items I know of.

The name of the game seems to be that items have hard to control effects, and are just as likely to do something useless than what you want. Which would make sense given the theme of the game.

One is a VERY random detective item which shows up once per day apparently and could fall into the hands of scum, the other is my mostly-useless (and still very random) magnet. A bulletproof item seems like it's a big step up. The other items are basically less reliable versions of regular abilities (makes sense given the theme), while Cap is claiming he basically has what amounts to a regular role ability. And conveniently he already used it, so we can't see the proof.

It could so very easily be a bluff.

The item is a cake.

author=Jeroen_Sol
If a lynchproof item really exists then we need to lynch piano irl. I don't buy it.

I can believe it exists.

But given what we've seen so far, I would more believe it's something like: "Single use. It takes one less vote to hammer you. When you are lynched, there is a 50% chance you survive and the day ends immediately. Does not transfer."

None of our items have been perfect. They've all been very random, and generally were just as dangerous for the one using them as for anyone else. I would only vote to lynch Piano IRL if this item was any different.

Yeah while I realize I'm on a very short list for "worst townie", it's still frustrating to me that this setup is between two teams of "informed minorities trying to find another informed minority," where the teams differ in name only, and we're supposed to kill the one called "spy" but not the one called "agent." when the players in each would be playing identically.

Oh it fits perfectly, for sure, but a better strategy for me this game would've been to say nothing and just play the tuba.

@Cap: I think that's 3/5 votes. Do you know what happens if you get daykilled while under cakeprotection? does the day end or just the hammer not fall?

re: cap claiming a lynchproof item that actually does something else: if it's a trap it's one we would've hit anyway trying to kill him regardless