[MAFIA] GAME OVER - FREQUENCY MAFIA

author=Cap_H
Yeah, Cave, this is such a weird comment. It's a lot of meta with one sketchy assumption - Piano being town for being paranoid about Liberty.

i skimmed over that but yeah that is particularly nonsensical. everyone would fall into fomar's 'townread' list at some point by this logic.

also i bet he has never said eurgh in his life until this game

I don't like that hex post. I really doubt scum would make that kind of obvious blunder. I don't know if its scummy or not, but it certainly looks bad.

Former was second on my list so if we have no better leads I'll switch my boys tomorrow. A lynch will happen regardless but I don't see a need to drag out d1 any more than necessary either.

As for that recent cave post, let's look back at his fast food chart. Seems the role are reversed here. Cave having it his way means he's in route to McDonalds. My phone autocorrect thinks frogge is staying home by his fridge, and former was obsessed with fridges earlier too. Take this how you will. No fancy chart from me for obvious reasons.

Side note: pc progress is coming along. It finally boots up but I still need to do some things before I can actually use it. Biggest being I had no thermal paste on hand so I'm avoiding running it so I don't burn out the new motherboard

Oh, also if someone made the same arguments over and over again it started to feel like a copout so I'd give a yellow or red depending on how much of a coput it felt like.

I have a *very* strong town read on demon and cave. They have been overwhelmingly helpful. Almost every post they make is aimed at furthering discussion or looking for scum.

I have a nulltell on piano. His erratic behavior has rubbed me the wrong way, but tbh, this is the kind of behavior I'd expect from piano. I totally agree with demon that a town piano would not be so aggressive so I think that his backing off repeatedly when called out is just a fluke.

Solid post. I was about to sleep and come back tomorrow too. One other thought that came to me while looking over your former points is that frogge is a really safe target. All his posts are bad so people wouldn't thing a frogge lynch as suspicious.

author=demonlord5000
Solid post. I was about to sleep and come back tomorrow too. One other thought that came to me while looking over your former points is that frogge is a really safe target. All his posts are bad so people wouldn't thing a frogge lynch as suspicious.

This is a good point, actually. I think I'm going to move frogge to #3 on my suspect list

In terms of the math + jokes being a smokescreen, Hex has talked about math *alot* and has joked around *alot*. He has posted a lot but honestly, the substance just is not there and I'm starting to think it's because he is scum. Additionally, earlier in the game, Hex was on the large bandwagon on esby. I agree with psy that his indictment of ozzy and I as if we were working together comes off as very disingenuous. Although some of these things could be attributed to other players; hex does the most of almost all of it.

#Lynch Hex

Scumreads under him:
Liberty has not been posting much which is making me worried she's trying to lay low after her initial blundering in the beginning. Additionally when she does post it is very very unhelpful and often completely illogical (which is weird because I know she is very smart). It makes me think she's doing it on purpose. I would have no problem lynching her.

As for frogge, he has not posted much, been unhelpful, and made many jokes. This wold be fine if he had also engaged with the game in any meaningful way. For that, frogge is number 3 on my list.

I'd be okay with voting for my nulltells if it comes to it, which is fomar and then piano in that order.

Nah, I've just been playing minecraft and eating pudding. Typical friday nighting. I keep expecting no replies until the morning since that's usually what happens due to timezone shenanigans, so I've just been checking every few hours to see if anything has appeared or not. :shrug:

It's nice to see more people playing when I'm actually awake though. Also, keep in mind that I've only been around for the past day to play, so my post count is going to be a bit lower due to that. And... I don't really feel like doing the whole back and forth thing that went on in the last game because sometimes I got super frustrated over people getting scum reads from stuff that just made normal sense to me (even if I was scum, it was stuff I'd have been posting anyway) so I figured I'd be a bit chiller this time around and not engage the fighty-bitey as much.

I already gave my scum tells so far. I don't think fomar is bad just based on his math tells, I think piano and emily are likely scum based on what I've seen of them so far, I've already explained why so I'm not going to bother doing so again.

If people are getting scum reads from me this time around due to my posting content, then maybe I should point out that as scum last time I posted a list like the one Gourd posted in case they wanted to be consistent or something.

I also love the fact that ozzy can slide by based on post count just due to the fact of posting a bunch of 'thougts/interaction' in short sentences and not get read for it. It's a kinda scummy move to allow him to have a high post count, disengage, and have a collation of 'useful' posts. Funny that Gourd just posts this summation that makes him look more useful. Note that he didn't note that all those posts - like his - were spam posted all in a row.
Something to think about.

As to why I usually harp on a topic more than one post in a row - in the past people miss shit unless it's brought up time and again so it's fresh in their memory. Otherwise people are going to just let shit slide. I don't want my points to be let slide. I want it there in people's minds to look at. So yeah, repetition. DGAF if people think that's scummy.

Libby most of what you're saying is completely valid, and you have posted more since I started writing up my scumreads + other observations (it was hours ago oof)
but you're not helping your case by populating your scumreads with 'person who disagrees with me' and 'person who suspected me first'

Other points to address:

No one is letting ozzy slide - hex was calling to have him modkilled earlier

The point that higher post count does not necessarily translate 1 to 1 in contribution is really fair, but that was supposed to be the point of my highlighting. I know it is not an exact science but I tried to be as fair as possible. I'm sorry but most of your posts just plain were not helpful. This was in addition to the low number.

Just bc scum libby did a thing does not mean that it is automatically scummy.

In all fairness, I understand better now why you repeated yourself, but can you see why that might have come across as you continuing the no lynch debate as an alternative to scumhunting (bc you are evil)? I think it is a valid thing to read as scum behavior.

That said, I still think Hex is the better candidate.

Libby, I don't have problem with your post count. I think it's ok. I'm slightly worried about the amount of fluff, which consists from explaining your inactivity and your playstyle.
Still, this might be just you.

Piano and Emily as your scum picks feels little out of touch with the thread. Where are you at Hex, Frogge? You mention Fomar, so kuddos for that.
I think your critique of Ozzy and Gourd could be considered shading, but let's not jump in that direction just yet. There's visible effort behind Gourd's reads and it always comes from town perspective.
My last observation is that you don't have any townreads and that's the most alarming as it is a good wolfplay to avoid giving out unnecessary townreads or reads in general.