[MAFIA] GAME OVER - FREQUENCY MAFIA

like man. i'm not in the mood to use all of my persuasion neurons but you only need human eyes to see that is a very weaksauce response to the case i made, in that, like, a lot of what i said wasn't addressed, but also his reason for voting me makes no sense. why would I care at all about him pointing out how probability works when no one else did and that information was freely available if you possessed one coin you could flip over and over. Why would I mostly be focusing on frogge and THEN move onto fomar, days after the probability thing that nobody remembered and never garnered any pressure on me at any point. flailing scum imo

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK

The more I think about it, I feel like this is just because I squashed the point of how unlikely it would be that you would be scum five times in a row.

literally nonsensical. i never even talked about the likelihood of me being scum 5 times in a row or not. that was piano.

this is the, ooh, ah, classic, "omgus"

I never said you said it, though you did correct the mistake about being scum three times in a row to four.

I have no idea what "omgus" is.

CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
like man. i'm not in the mood to use all of my persuasion neurons but you only need human eyes to see that is a very weaksauce response to the case i made, in that, like, a lot of what i said wasn't addressed, but also his reason for voting me makes no sense. why would I care at all about him pointing out how probability works when no one else did and that information was freely available if you possessed one coin you could flip over and over. Why would I mostly be focusing on frogge and THEN move onto fomar, days after the probability thing that nobody remembered and never garnered any pressure on me at any point. flailing scum imo

But Cave's reasoning has been pretty much airtight for the whole game.

Am here, gonna read up on thread.

your case on me is that i, as scum, felt threatened by you pointing out how probability (not a secret) works and felt the need to silence you for it by way of voting you out instead of nightkilling you or something. my rebuttal is that, not only did i not care about the probability thing, but also, no one else in the thread did, giving scum!cave even more reason to not care. so this motive you are using as your crutch for voting me does not exist, demonstrably evident by reading the thread. instead, probably, you are voting me for another reason.

instead of talking about probability, i made specific arguments as to why the language you used in multiple posts you made pinged me. they weren't particularly strong arguments, but it's day 1. but the way you've addressed them (mostly sidestepping and the ascription of a false narrative that I was voting you for math reasons even though my giant post where I voted you didn't mention math once)

also find it weird how Hexatona has done more Maths than me and yet Cave is adamant that this time (despite all previous games of me being a Mathsy town) is choosing me over Hexatona

makes me feel more confident in my vote.

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
your case on me is that i, as scum, felt threatened by you pointing out how probability (not a secret) works and felt the need to silence you for it by way of voting you out instead of nightkilling you or something.

Excellent point, there is no reason why you wouldn't just night kill me if that was the reason why.

#cancel

author=CAVE_DOG_IS_BACK
i probably won't engage further in much direct conversation except to blow up points because I think I am talking to scum. if you are actually town, i implore you to ape gourd's list but not put as much effort into it because fuck that

I'll try and see if I have time but no promises.

#cancel
#lynch former

Because I said I'd do this last night if no better options. My liberty lynch isn't taking off and former was second on my list. Still cant bold but it should stand out enough at the top. I also don't want to leave who dies to rng, and would prefer to have our votes focused somewhere.

I am unsure how I feel about Liberty. I don't get huge bad-faith vibes from her posts, but I also don't feel like her explanations and reasoning is very satisfying to me. I can't get behind Piano being scum, I am unhappy that she doesn't at least summarize her reasons for things in a few words instead of saying "as I said before", and I don't think that going after someone for alternative but clear terms is a good use of time. She also went after Piano for something you could argue I did first, and then mentioned me way later (so she was aware of it).

I'm much more against a Fomar lynch than a Liberty lynch, I really don't feel like Fomar is scum at this point. I would rather lynch Hex or Fridge to be honest. Hex has said some reasonably smelly things, and Frogge has too. I also don't like how the main reason not to go after Frogge is that the plays are too basic/obvious/clumsy for scum.

AlaskanEmily

author=ESBY
my current thinking is that cave, piano and demon are definitely town, most others i'm still neutral on and fomar, hex & psy being the likeliest baddies atm

What are your reasons for thinking Psy may be scum?

ESBY may have the same bad vibes that I got from his Gourd vote. It could be a joke vote, but it's the third one on him, there's no good reason for it, and it has the very eerie energy of absent-minded scum following a scum-partner's vote.

After reading through thread I can see how Hex is on the suspicious list and Fomar's most recent blunder just irks me the wrong way, I wouldn't be surprised if they are both scum and they were voting on each other to distant themselves from one another, we should keep an eye on that.

CAVE is now on my list of townies, together with ESBY and Demonlord.

My main suspects in this order are:
Hexatona, Fomar and Frogge.

Everyone else reads too much as neutral or over-emotional highschooler for me to decide whether they're town or not.

Oh also

#lynch Hexatona

CAVE also makes a good point, our votes are spread to shit, we need to consolidate on a vote unless we want to no lynch on day 1, which I know most people don't.