[MAFIA] GAME OVER - FREQUENCY MAFIA

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author=Liberty
Maybe he wanted to be able to claim he blocked fomar to save his scumbuddy from having to prove his fake role claim.

I could see this happening only if it was known that gourd's role would be outed. In your interview, did you give any indication that this would be the case?
^^All of this is super insulting to my intellect and assumes I forget a lot of things and act irrationally for no apparent reason.

Frogge why did you think the announcement could only be reached by people who were town? Is hexatona confirmed to be town and a cop to you?

author=Liberty
Maybe he isn't actually a role blocker at all. Maybe he blocked someone who was a vanilla town with no night actions. Maybe he wanted to be able to claim he blocked fomar to save his scumbuddy from having to prove his fake role claim.


If the first, he might have been trying to scope out other peeps to kill on other nights or using his real power on someone else but it had no effect.

If the second, he might have been looking for any doctor roles (something that was brought up near end of day yesterday and might have worried scum) so that they could have a free shot at hex (not as likely considering ozzy died, meaning they went after him).

If the third (my choice), it's a clever play to try and use my power to confirm that he was someone integral and working for town. He got pulled into a room with someone who knew his role for sure - a real role cop. Oh dear, fellow scum buddy is fucked now that there's a confirmable role cop around. Lucky she stumbled on him instead of someone else! He can use this to play a con.

Make liberty think that he's all for town and his power is to block. Make liberty think that he's going to block fomar or hex, but then say the next day that he blocked fomar (who he kept saying he thought was innocent, btw. why would he block him when he kept telling me he thought hex was definitely scum?) so that fomar didn't have to back up his claims as being a role cop the next day. And now he can have liberty back him up and say that yes, he did say he'd block fomar and thus he must be a town because of it!

I wondered why he outed himself so fast when I told him straight up that I wouldn't out him unless it looked like he was going to get close to hammered, so as to keep him safe - that I'd let him out himself. Which I 100% was sticking to.

yeah, my thoughts are the third.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
author=Gourd_Clae
Frogge why did you think the announcement could only be reached by people who were town? Is hexatona confirmed to be town and a cop to you?



Odd himself said the broadcast will be pm'd to town. I asked if that meant ONLY town will get it and he said he cannot say, but the people who got the pm and the people who didn't has checked out so far.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Hex is not confirmed town, I think he might be indie because he did not get the pm. His role or the way he's used it definitely does not seem mafia, though.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Either that or Fomar is lying and my theory of only people who do not have special roles being able to get the pm checks out.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
Lying about his role, I mean. He must have either known the contents of the PM or was told of them by a mason partner because he pointed out the Pontypool reference.
If you're saying Gourd is actually the role cop and I'm not, why wouldn't he just tell me who he role cop'd and then I could use that information to look innocent.
author=Frogge
Hex is not confirmed town, I think he might be indie because he did not get the pm. His role or the way he's used it definitely does not seem mafia, though.


Wait Hex said you both were confirmed, I'm sure of it... time to read back and check.
author=psy_wombats
author=Liberty
Maybe he wanted to be able to claim he blocked fomar to save his scumbuddy from having to prove his fake role claim.
I could see this happening only if it was known that gourd's role would be outed. In your interview, did you give any indication that this would be the case?


He was awfully quick to out himself as the person I talked to even though he wasn't under much pressure, nor was I, and everyone was looking to lynch Fomar. That led to a revealing of the hand and really made me question his alignment and reread the interview.


author=psy_wombats
I can't see Gourd's role name getting outed but Gourd supplying incorrect abilities for that role. It's too out-there a play.


He wanted me to know what I thought his ability was before telling me and was incredibly hesitant to give more details, but didn't have an issue dropping the idea of a head mafia (that may very well be a fake-out, btw - it may very well be that there's only two mafia, a number of indie and the rest town).

author=Liberty
I wondered why he outed himself so fast when I told him straight up that I wouldn't out him unless it looked like he was going to get close to hammered, so as to keep him safe - that I'd let him out himself. Which I 100% was sticking to.

I outed myself when you promised that because I didn't want one of town's power roles exposed. If I was scum I'd be more likely to just not tell you anything - or you know... kill you? If my buddy was in danger because you existed I could kill then use my roleblock power on hex. Tada! Then, fomi can fake a claim the next day and if it goes south I just bus him. None of that had to include me in any way.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
i myself am not sure if the broadcast is only received by town or people without special roles. if it's the former, hex is either mafia or indie, but if it's the latter, which I think it is, hex is almost definitely town.
Frogge, do you want to double check you weren't confirmed to each other.
Here's Hex's post for reference.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892671#post892671
author=Gourd_Clae
author=Liberty
I wondered why he outed himself so fast when I told him straight up that I wouldn't out him unless it looked like he was going to get close to hammered, so as to keep him safe - that I'd let him out himself. Which I 100% was sticking to.
I outed myself when you promised that because I didn't want one of town's power roles exposed. If I was scum I'd be more likely to just not tell you anything - or you know... kill you? If my buddy was in danger because you existed I could kill then use my roleblock power on hex. Tada! Then, fomi can fake a claim the next day and if it goes south I just bus him. None of that had to include me in any way.


lol, sure, kill an indie when you could go for town instead? i don't think so. that'd be a waste of a night kill. it's why I'm not too concerned that you lot'll kill me tonight - because your aim is to kill all town. I don't factor into that. I'm safe from your nightly kills and even if you do end up killing me, that's one more night and day for town to get it's act together and destroy your scummy hides.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
author=Fomar0153
Frogge, do you want to double check you weren't confirmed to each other.
Here's Hex's post for reference.
https://rpgmaker.net/forums/topics/24770/?post=892671#post892671


You're right, actually. I didn't ask for clarification as to whether Hex is town or not, but I assumed he was due to stuff he said and his role. Still almost completely sure he is either town or indie, though. Just gotta figure out who got sent my broadcast.
Frogge
I wanna marry ALL the boys!! And Donna is a meanc
18995
I still think we should get rid of Gourd.

If he is town, it will confirm that the people who did not get my broadcast are the ones with special roles.
If he is mafia, it means there's a chance that only town got the broadcast.
author=Liberty
lol, sure, kill an indie when you could go for town instead? i don't think so. that'd be a waste of a night kill. it's why I'm not too concerned that you lot'll kill me tonight - because your aim is to kill all town. I don't factor into that. I'm safe from your nightly kills and even if you do end up killing me, that's one more night and day for town to get it's act together and destroy your scummy hides.


I feel like you're getting in a pre-emptive reason for not being night killed ever. If everything went as you said (which according to Gourd it did), surely you would have been too big a risk to keep alive?

Another possibility you are both scum and this is some amazing bussing. I don't think I've ever heard of double mason like abilities before.
author=Frogge
author=Gourd_Clae
Frogge why did you think the announcement could only be reached by people who were town? Is hexatona confirmed to be town and a cop to you?

Odd himself said the broadcast will be pm'd to town. I asked if that meant ONLY town will get it and he said he cannot say, but the people who got the pm and the people who didn't has checked out so far.

Thanks. I have a theory incoming, then!
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
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author=psy_wombats
Also, I think Fomar is a rolecop, whatever his alignment is. He was around for the game where I was rolecop and got immediately and brutally murdered.

If the claims are taken at their word (Fomar=RC and gourd=RB) then this vaguely makes sense, and they murder Ozzy to try and get us to suspect Hex, forgetting that Frogge can confirm Hex.


Nah, you're reaching here and I know you can do better than that. Now, which one of the two is your buddy.
Cap_H
DIGITAL IDENTITY CRISIS
6625
author=Gourd_Clae
^^All of this is super insulting to my intellect and assumes I forget a lot of things and act irrationally for no apparent reason.



Now, this is a good defense mafia would use. It usually works but it doesn't sit with your character.
#lynch Gourd