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[RMMV] YANFLY EQUIP SKILLS: NORMAL SKILLS ALWAYS EQUIPPED?

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KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
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I'm reposting this old question because I got basically no responses and my last post concerning this was worded poorly, so I'll try again.

In my game there are type types of skills: arts, and abilities. Arts are skills like fire, arc slash, ect that can be used in battle and sometimes on the field and cost AP, or art points. (my game's name for MP) Then there are abilities which are skills that give passive stats such as passive stat boosts, the ability to wield certain weapon types not normally available, conditional stat boosts, and more.

Arts are always available once the actor learns them and as long as the actor is of a class where that skill type is available, but abilities must be equipped with each ability using up a slot and there only being 4 slots per actor. I'm able to accomplish most of this by using Yanfly's Equip Skills plugin, but problem is I want only the abilities to be equippable, not the arts, and I want the arts to be available at all times as long as the actor has the required skill types. How do I accomplish this in MV? Any help is appreciated. Thanks!
Marrend
Guardian of the Description Thread
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If you wanted to re-word your topic, then... why not edit that topic? It hasn't even been a week since that topic was posted. There could be reasons why nobody has responded. Maybe nobody has the time to look it up until later? Maybe nobody knows the answer (arguably the worst-case scenario here, but, the outside possibility exists)? Maybe nobody is inclined to look up the answer (which is a different beast altogether)?
Mirak
Stand back. Artist at work. I paint with enthusiasm if not with talent.
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I'd place my bet on the fact not everyone here uses that plugin. I'd go so far as to raise the bet to "almost nobody here has used it".

Maybe another venue than this forum would be better to find support on specific yanfly plugins, like discord. Maybe Yanfly has a community of sorts like their own discord server? You could try there.
pianotm
The TM is for Totally Magical.
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Marrend
Maybe nobody has the time to look it up until later? Maybe nobody knows the answer (arguably the worst-case scenario here, but, the outside possibility exists)?


I mean, I sure didn't know the answer. I've never used the Equip Skills plugin. And given what it does, which is pretty specific in RPGs, while it's not the most likely scenario, I think nobody knowing the answer is much more likely than you're giving it credit for.
KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
3326
author=Marrend
If you wanted to re-word your topic, then... why not edit that topic? It hasn't even been a week since that topic was posted. There could be reasons why nobody has responded. Maybe nobody has the time to look it up until later? Maybe nobody knows the answer (arguably the worst-case scenario here, but, the outside possibility exists)? Maybe nobody is inclined to look up the answer (which is a different beast altogether)?


I made a new topic because I can't edit the title of the old one. I think that was the problem that drove people away because the title was confusing. It only had around 75 views while the surrounding posts have at least 300 each, sometimes over 1000.
KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
3326
author=Mirak
I'd place my bet on the fact not everyone here uses that plugin. I'd go so far as to raise the bet to "almost nobody here has used it".

Maybe another venue than this forum would be better to find support on specific yanfly plugins, like discord. Maybe Yanfly has a community of sorts like their own discord server? You could try there.


Yanfly has his visustella server but I can't come even near to anything Yanfly related publicly because Yanfly absolutely hates my guts. I can't ask for help anywhere since every single discord Yanfly was a mod in he banned me even if I didn't even post anything. I'm banned from like 3 or 4 different RM discord servers with absolutely no warning. I barely even posted anything on most of them (maybe like 1 intro post at most) and I got banned. I'm not banned from servers not run by Yanfly, but the main thing that all those servers have in common is that Yanfly is a mod on all of them.

The only explanation is that Yanfly has a personal vendetta against me due to me frequenting hating on Visustella and MZ as a whole for it's scummy practices and calling Yanfly out on his bullcrap frequently. On the RPG Maker hub discord (which Yanfly is a mod in) I literally posted NOTHING and yet I was banned about 2 days after joining, probably once Yanfly realized I had joined. I know for a fact that Yanfly knows me personally, as he personally roasted me on the RMN discord (he's not a mod there but he uses it) right before I was muted for the final time and subsequently banned.

I then sought out alternatives since my main source of communication was cut out. I first went to RM Hub as it was, well, a hub for all other RM discords and joined as many as I could. Two days later RM Hub disappeared from my feed along with a couple other servers I don't remember the names of, leaving me a member of only various RM YouTuber's servers (ToastyTime, Driftwood Gaming, etc) and the server for the RPG Maker subreddit.

I went to the subreddit and liked it at first but as soon as I joined general and 18+ chat I realized how toxic the server was outside of the help channels with constant flame wars, trolling, roasts, insults, and general insanity like saying the word "femboy" was a slur and calling me a Nazi because I support rehabilitation for extremists instead of mass geocide and was right wing like 4 years ago. "Once a bigot always a bigot" they said, causing me to rage and leave the server. I might rejoin as there are actually some pretty cool people there outside of the toxicity of general and 18+ chat, but as of now I have nowhere to go. The only RM server I have left with a support section is ToastyTime's server which doesn't have too many users.

TLDR: Yanfly personally hates my guts and banned me from every single server he had influence in, so I can't ask for support in any of Yanfly's servers unless I use my alt account and VPN, but since you now know that Liberty will likely tell Yanfly and he'll be on high alert for suspicious accounts that could be my alt.
KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
3326
author=pianotm
Marrend
Maybe nobody has the time to look it up until later? Maybe nobody knows the answer (arguably the worst-case scenario here, but, the outside possibility exists)?
I mean, I sure didn't know the answer. I've never used the Equip Skills plugin. And given what it does, which is pretty specific in RPGs, while it's not the most likely scenario, I think nobody knowing the answer is much more likely than you're giving it credit for.

It's really not that specific. 9/10 RPGs I've played had equippable abilities as a major mechanic, especially games with a class system. Bravely Default, Bravely Second, Bravely Default II, Octopath Traveler, Dragon Quest 11, Fire Emblem Awakening, Fire Emblem Fates, Fire Emblem Three Houses, Final Fantasy V, literally every single megaten game, etc. Heck, even Pokemon, the simplest and more formulaic of RPGs, is starting to lean into that direction with Legends Arceus having a move pool and skill slots akin to SMT. (albeit without passives in the mix or the complexity of fusion)

Passive skills slots is not a "specific" mechanic, it's used in almost every RPG ever made in the last 10-15 years. It's either that or a system where you learn skills based on the weapons you equip like Final Fantasy IX, FF7 Remake, Final Fantasy Tactics, FF Tactics Advance, FF Tactics A2, Triangle Strategy, Fire Emblem Echoes, etc or a skill tree like Final Fantasy XII, Final Fantasy X, Dragon Quest 8, nearly every western RPG, (except Elder Scrolls) etc. I NEED that mechanic for my game to be fun. It's one of the major features added in 2.0 and helps encourage switching up classes frequently instead of relying on the same classes for the entire game like in 1.0.
KrimsonKatt
Gamedev by sunlight, magical girl by moonlight
3326
Good news! I found an alternate plugin by MoogleX for MV that basically fixes all my issues and does exactly what I need it to do. Of course it has some issues like not being able to have abilities take up multiple slots, but that wasn't too important anyways. I realized by watching the Yanfly YouTube tutorial for that plugin that it didn't have any feature to have certain skills ignore the skill equip system and be usable without equipping them as the video showed both arts and abilities being equipped when I just want abilities to be equipped. So yanfly's plugin was a bust but luckily MoogleX's hit the spot and is even compatible with Yanfly so that's another plus. Good to end this day on a good note for once after dying the the elite 4 in Pokemon BDSP 100 times while trying to train up a breeded Ralts with mean look to at least Lv60 so I can finally catch Misprit.

Edit: You can find all their plugins here: https://github.com/MoogleX/MV_Plugins (This their official github BTW. Not a pirate link.)
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Guardian of the Description Thread
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author=KrimsonKatt
I made a new topic because I can't edit the title of the old one.

There should be an "Edit Topic" button at the bottom of the page under the "Actions" header that allows you to edit the topic title.

*Edit: This isn't the first time I've seen this story about Yanfly from you. I don't know his side of the story, so, I will not comment more.
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