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DOES ANYONE IN PHOENIX EVEN KNOW WHAT HOCKEY IS?
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CloseLiverpool 0-0 BirminghamYUP WE RULE thanks for choosing this week! :D
thanks for playing right into my hands kent. 5 goals is the second highest amount of goals that week so yeah, it is a high scoreline. what point were you making again?
haha do you even know how hard it is to score? oh no incredible feats of defending and goalkeeping we can't have this where are the soft goals
in fact you have given me a good example. that Liverpool-Birmingham game was one of the most exciting games I've had the pleasure of witnessing. nobody scored. it's not about the goals you great prune!
in fact you have given me a good example. that Liverpool-Birmingham game was one of the most exciting games I've had the pleasure of witnessing. nobody scored. it's not about the goals you great prune!
well, incredible feats of knocking the ball away notwithstanding, goals are much more exciting given that the point of the game is to win, and to win you need to score more goals than your opponent.
And if you are looking for awesome goaltending, watch hockey.
And if you are looking for awesome goaltending, watch hockey.
i am not even going to go here with you because it would mean explaining in its entirety why people watch football. no thanks.
Judge rejects Balsillie's bid to buy Coyotes
So Basillie's roundabout attempt at relocating the Coyotes has failed. He still can go through other channels to go through with this, but that means Bettman has to agree and Bettman gets to set the terms. So good luck with that.
Canadian billionaire Jim Balsillie's bid to buy the Phoenix Coyotes and relocate the NHL team to Hamilton was rejected Monday by an Arizona bankruptcy judge.Balsillie, the co-CEO of Research In Motion Ltd., maker of the BlackBerry smartphone, imposed a June 29 deadline to complete the sale - hoping to speed up the process and have the team ready to play in Hamilton for the 2009-10 season.
But in a ruling handed down Monday evening, Judge Redfield Baum said, "This court is unconvinced that it should order that the NHL must decide the relocation application to meet the June 29 deadline."
"Simply put, the court does not think there is sufficient time for all of these issues to be fairly presented to the court given that deadline," Baum said in the 21-page document. "The motion is denied, without prejudice."
So Basillie's roundabout attempt at relocating the Coyotes has failed. He still can go through other channels to go through with this, but that means Bettman has to agree and Bettman gets to set the terms. So good luck with that.
So, in the end NOTHING was resolved.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=293208
So, basically, we are back where we started with no bidders (the other potential bidders all dropped out over the summer), a failing team in bankruptcy and a mountain of debt. Yay. But I understand the ruling - it just sucks. I was really rooting for Basillie...well, I was really rooting against Bettman, who is a turd.
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=293208
Judge Baum threw out the $242.5 million (US) bid by Balsillie, saying it could not work because he could not properly satisfy the NHL's rights regarding relocation. "In the final analysis, the court cannot find or conclude that the interests of the NHL can be adequately protected if the Coyotes are moved to Hamilton without first having a final decision regarding the claimed rights of the NHL and the claims of the debtors and (Balsillie)," he ruled.
He then ruled that the NHL's bid of $140 million would not work because it allows the league to specifically select which of the creditors will be paid. The NHL said it would pay all their creditors in full - with the exception of former head coach Wayne Gretzky and majority owner Jerry Moyes.
"There has been no determination that the Moyes and Gretzky claims are not 'legitimate creditors.' It would be inherently unjust for this court to deprive them of their possible rightful share of any proceeds without first providing all involved a fair trial on their claims."
So, basically, we are back where we started with no bidders (the other potential bidders all dropped out over the summer), a failing team in bankruptcy and a mountain of debt. Yay. But I understand the ruling - it just sucks. I was really rooting for Basillie...well, I was really rooting against Bettman, who is a turd.
Kaempfer
1932
I glossed over most of this topic, but moving a team to Hamilton would remove a great deal of Toronto's fan base, since Hamilton fans have no real team to cheer for, most of them get behind Toronto. As a result, a move to Hamilton wouldn't make the league any money, it would just move it around a little. The reason they want to keep a team in the middle of nowhere is because it draws from an untapped pool of yokels who wouldn't be giving their money to the NHL, otherwise. Of course, it would create a huge deal of interest as the Hamilton-Toronto rivalry heated up, similar to the Rangers/Devils, but Bettman is probably looking where he can generate the most money- which is a VERY BAD PLAN, since more interest automatically means more money (albeit indirectly).
There's no reason a hot place can't have a successful NHL team. Florida has two teams! Seriously though, Thunder Bay should get a team. They're right on the border, so they'd draw US fans, and they'd get people from the Sault (on both sides of the border) and probably from Winnipeg, too. I'd say the 'peg should get another chance, but they blew it the first time so... should they?
There's no reason a hot place can't have a successful NHL team. Florida has two teams! Seriously though, Thunder Bay should get a team. They're right on the border, so they'd draw US fans, and they'd get people from the Sault (on both sides of the border) and probably from Winnipeg, too. I'd say the 'peg should get another chance, but they blew it the first time so... should they?
Well, the Jets went to Phoenix, so was it a wise move in the first place after all? Tampa Bay is floundering, Nashville is too, and I think Atlanta isn't so hot. Florida is so-so. Dallas is a bit of an exception, while the Kings (and all of California) can thank Wayne Gretzky.
Rank Team Current Value 1 ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value 2 (%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income 3 ($mil)
1 Toronto Maple Leafs 448 9 35 160 66.4
2 New York Rangers 411 12 0 137 30.7
3 Montreal Canadiens 334 18 72 139 39.6
4 Detroit Red Wings 303 3 0 110 13.4
5 Philadelphia Flyers 275 13 24 102 -1.8
6 Dallas Stars 273 8 73 105 14.2
7 Boston Bruins 263 8 46 97 -3.0
8 Vancouver Canucks 236 12 47 107 19.2
9 Colorado Avalanche 231 8 21 91 2.3
10 New Jersey Devils 222 14 113 97 1.9
11 Minnesota Wild 217 21 52 94 0.7
12 Los Angeles Kings 210 0 87 91 1.2
13 Ottawa Senators 207 12 63 96 4.7
14 Chicago Blackhawks 205 14 0 79 1.4
15 Calgary Flames 203 24 15 97 7.4
16 Anaheim Ducks 202 3 17 90 1.0
17 Tampa Bay Lightning 200 1 53 84 1.2
18 Pittsburgh Penguins 195 26 51 87 5.1
19 San Jose Sharks 179 9 25 85 2.4
20 Edmonton Oilers 175 11 0 85 11.8
21 Buffalo Sabres 169 4 30 76 -8.9
22 Carolina Hurricanes 168 8 54 75 -11.5
23 Nashville Predators 164 14 49 70 -1.3
24 Florida Panthers 163 8 49 74 -9.4
25 St Louis Blues 162 12 74 73 -8.6
26 Washington Capitals 160 10 43 73 -6.9
27 Atlanta Thrashers 158 6 44 70 -6.1
28 Columbus Blue Jackets 157 4 29 71 -7.1
29 New York Islanders 154 3 65 64 -8.8
30 Phoenix Coyotes 142 -3 63 68 -9.7
I think that the Coyotes might move to Las Vegas in the end.
Rank Team Current Value 1 ($mil) 1-Yr Value Change (%) Debt/Value 2 (%) Revenue ($mil) Operating Income 3 ($mil)
1 Toronto Maple Leafs 448 9 35 160 66.4
2 New York Rangers 411 12 0 137 30.7
3 Montreal Canadiens 334 18 72 139 39.6
4 Detroit Red Wings 303 3 0 110 13.4
5 Philadelphia Flyers 275 13 24 102 -1.8
6 Dallas Stars 273 8 73 105 14.2
7 Boston Bruins 263 8 46 97 -3.0
8 Vancouver Canucks 236 12 47 107 19.2
9 Colorado Avalanche 231 8 21 91 2.3
10 New Jersey Devils 222 14 113 97 1.9
11 Minnesota Wild 217 21 52 94 0.7
12 Los Angeles Kings 210 0 87 91 1.2
13 Ottawa Senators 207 12 63 96 4.7
14 Chicago Blackhawks 205 14 0 79 1.4
15 Calgary Flames 203 24 15 97 7.4
16 Anaheim Ducks 202 3 17 90 1.0
17 Tampa Bay Lightning 200 1 53 84 1.2
18 Pittsburgh Penguins 195 26 51 87 5.1
19 San Jose Sharks 179 9 25 85 2.4
20 Edmonton Oilers 175 11 0 85 11.8
21 Buffalo Sabres 169 4 30 76 -8.9
22 Carolina Hurricanes 168 8 54 75 -11.5
23 Nashville Predators 164 14 49 70 -1.3
24 Florida Panthers 163 8 49 74 -9.4
25 St Louis Blues 162 12 74 73 -8.6
26 Washington Capitals 160 10 43 73 -6.9
27 Atlanta Thrashers 158 6 44 70 -6.1
28 Columbus Blue Jackets 157 4 29 71 -7.1
29 New York Islanders 154 3 65 64 -8.8
30 Phoenix Coyotes 142 -3 63 68 -9.7
I think that the Coyotes might move to Las Vegas in the end.
VideoWizard
2842
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There's no reason a hot place can't have a successful NHL team. Florida has two teams! Seriously though, Thunder Bay should get a team. They're right on the border, so they'd draw US fans, and they'd get people from the Sault (on both sides of the border) and probably from Winnipeg, too. I'd say the 'peg should get another chance, but they blew it the first time so... should they?
Thunder Bay should get a team. The problem is, people would probably confuse it with the Lightning, unless you're proposing that the (Tampa Bay) Lightning move to Canada.
According to the rankings, it is Florida that is floundering (losing 9.4 million/year) and Tampa Bay is barely keeping afloat (1.2 mil/yr). It seems that it would've been a better bet to have a team in Yellowknife than Phoenix (down almost 10 million a year), although travel may be a problem.
