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So I'm back home for the summer in college, and it dawned on me (well, it didn't really DAWN on me, but whatever) that my last year in college is coming up, and while I love my family and have my household has a nice house, I desire my independence more than I do staying at home. So, I realize I'm going to have to look for an apartment soon, and I can at least start right now so I could possibly move in before the years end.

However, I understand its serious business and not exactly cheap; I have some friends that A. Already have their own places or B. Didn't go to college and moved out of the home, so I have some secondhand experience in the matter, but I'd like to ask you guys for advice regarding looking, moving in, and maintaining an apartment. Any tips on dealing with landlords? Where to look? What to look for? How about living with a girlfriend or roommates (or having your girlfriend as a 'roommate')?

Any advice? I know a good bit of us are living on our own, so...
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3964.msg79328#msg79328 date=1244575740
So I'm back home for the summer in college...
I can tell by your forum activity.

Also, I am currently living in my wife's parent's basement (with my wife, who is pregnant). Long story.
9 months long

also your house exploded
author=kentona link=topic=3964.msg79330#msg79330 date=1244576469
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3964.msg79328#msg79328 date=1244575740
So I'm back home for the summer in college...
I can tell by your forum activity.

Well, about that. Most recently, just a little while ago, I was renting out a space in my girlfriends parents house, similar to your situation, and it was nice, but it could be a bit..."inconvenient". Combine that with the fact that the house needed remodeling and the room I was staying in regularly was either very cold or very wet due to no insulation or anything, and well, I'd like my own place now!
author=Fallen-Griever link=topic=3964.msg79346#msg79346 date=1244578907
Having your own place is over-rated.

Unless you're an adult, then it's kind of a requirement.
x is over-rated because I don't like / understand it
author=Fallen-Griever link=topic=3964.msg79346#msg79346 date=1244578907
Having your own place is over-rated.

Well, considering that I am no longer a child, the positives of having my own place infinitely outweigh anything there is not to like about it.

I mean, are you speaking from experience or what?
Actually, a little tidbit from a gas jockey I got years ago:

mooch off your parents for as long as you can. Sage advice, really.
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author=Fallen-Griever link=topic=3964.msg79346#msg79346 date=1244578907
Having your own place is over-rated.
Assuming FG lives in Manchester city he has every right to say this
harmonic
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author=kentona link=topic=3964.msg79360#msg79360 date=1244580432
Actually, a little tidbit from a gas jockey I got years ago:

mooch off your parents for as long as you can. Sage advice, really.

As much as doing so is a burden on your folks, this is true. Friend o mine saved up enough working as a lowbie at walmart in one year to pay cash for a brand new vehicle.
You're in NY, right Feld? I know things are pretty pricey there... I'm currently living "upstate" in a subletted place.

Since you're going to be going back to school soon, I recommend subletting for the summer. Surprisingly enough, there are fairly inexpensive places around Westchester county, and probably in the city too... I think I've seen places for 300-400 a month.

Good luck, man!
author=kentona link=topic=3964.msg79360#msg79360 date=1244580432
mooch off your parents for as long as you can. Sage advice, really.

Pretty much this. Otherwise..

Make sure you have a secure job, and plenty of savings. You should be able to save money every month instead of barely scraping by on the bills. You should also be able to account for something like 2 months (preferably more), in case shit happens and you lose your job/car/limbs/etc.

When you find a place, before you move in, take photos of everything and if anything's broken, make sure that you get that acknowledged in writing from the landlord. This is to ensure that any damages that had occurred before you moved in don't get taken out of your deposit.

Roommate-wise, well chances are, you're not going to be living by yourself unless you have a really well paying job right off the bat. Just make sure everyone's clear on the rules, and do your best to avoid drama/passive aggressive behaviour. Also, don't live with your girlfriend unless you're planning on marrying her.

Also, don't live with your girlfriend unless you're planning on marrying her.

This is good advice fundamentally, but it's hard to gauge. Damn it!
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3964.msg79409#msg79409 date=1244592767
Also, don't live with your girlfriend unless you're planning on marrying her.

This is good advice fundamentally, but it's hard to gauge. Damn it!


Well it's more like, if you ARE planning on marrying her, then before you guys tie the knot, you should live with her to ensure that you guys aren't gonna be at each other's throats 6 months down the line.

If you're still undecided, then don't live with her, because if you two end up breaking up, well you can look forward to a very awkward living environment until you or she moves out.
Hmmm, I've lived with over 20 people since I moved out with my parents. I've gotten along with all of them. I finally got my place this fall and figgin love it. It's so awesome. Yeah, it's also the most expsensive place I've lived, but if you can afford to do this, it is definitely the best option.

If you do decide to live with people, try to find a friend who has teh same living habbits as you. It's definitely more FUN to live with a friend, but if you can't find one that is like you enough to live with, then a neutral stranger might be a better option.
author=Neok link=topic=3964.msg79414#msg79414 date=1244593135
author=Feldschlacht IV link=topic=3964.msg79409#msg79409 date=1244592767
Also, don't live with your girlfriend unless you're planning on marrying her.

This is good advice fundamentally, but it's hard to gauge. Damn it!


Well it's more like, if you ARE planning on marrying her, then before you guys tie the knot, you should live with her to ensure that you guys aren't gonna be at each other's throats 6 months down the line.

Actually, I read something in Psychology Today that this is actually harmful to a marriage. A greater percentage of folks who live together before they're married end up getting divorced. This seems to be because once people are living together, they feel pressure to get married and stay together to avoid an awkward living situation.

I'd reccommend just living with a buddy or something... that way you know you're together because you like each other, and not because you both need to pay the rent.
I love living away from my parents. I moved out when I first went to college; I moved into the dorms and cried a little I think (I know, real men don't cry, I'm a pansy, yada yada yada), but I got into it soon. I moved into a dry-house frat for awhile... yeah... but now I got a house with some other dudes and it's awesome. The only thing I dislike is that my roommates don't use words when we disagree on something like who's turn it is to take out the garbage can. Lately, we've allowed for an impressive mountain of garbage to pile up in it, such that it's leaning against the wall at the moment.

Anyways, my main thought: living on your own may cost more, but you're purchasing a certain amount of happiness, and maybe that will help you do better with college or a career. I didn't really have the option of living with my family, but I'm glad I got the chance to move out.

Also, I wouldn't like to own an apartment of my own... I like having roommates. I'd have to live close to neighbors of about the same age or career type, people I could become friends with. And I'd still probably want to get a small dog or something :-\.
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Get a cheap basement suite or something. You can find those for very cheap, and its great to start. And your girlfriend can come and stay when ever and if you break up its not like you really needed her. Plus that way you will have nights to yourself.

Thats how I started and I've worked my way up to a 1200 squarefoot two bedroom apartmen and I still live on my own.
I live in an apartment/townhouse. Two stories, 2LDK.

Living alone is awesome. I couldn't imagine doing it before I had my degree though.
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