GROOVESHARK LEGALITY

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According to Relyt, oral sex is wrong and an unacceptable thing to do.
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like women and black people voting. It was totally illegal because it was wrong.

Geez man you cannot be this naive.

That's an example that has nothing to do with this subject. I agree, those laws were according to the motives of the lawmakers at the time, and they were wrong for doing that. However, this is STEALING we're talking about, not division based on race. The fact that stealing is illegal has nothing to do with discrimination, hate, or malice. It's done to keep the peace and prevent conflict.
what kind of cocksucker would make that law
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That's an example that has nothing to do with this subject. I agree, those laws were according to the motives of the lawmakers at the time, and they were wrong for doing that. However, this is STEALING we're talking about, not division based on race. The fact that stealing is illegal has nothing to do with discrimination, hate, or malice. It's done to keep the peace and prevent conflict.


It has everything to do with the subject and it was in response to

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I'm saying that they wouldn't make a law against it if it were a perfectly acceptable thing to do.


which was a very stupid, stupid thing to say.
Look Feld, I don't want this to degrade into an argument. I'm just trying to say that the law is in place for a reason, and it's our job as citizens of this country to obey it. I believe that those in authority are put there for a reason, and I've chosen to have a little faith in them. Of course it's also our job to scrutinize and question them, but it's also important to remember that they're innocent until proven guilty.

(that and oral sex is only banned in Missouri...)
And I think that mentality is foolish. The law and what is or isn't legal has very little real correlation with morality. The law exists for the interests and self preservation of whatever society put them in place. I'm not saying don't respect the law for what it is nor am I saying to disobey laws, but looking to the LAW for morality is idiocy. I listen to my own moral compass first, and the law second (of course no one wants to get arrested either, so throw in a little common sense).

Man, people like you are delaying the legalization of marijuana by decades and it MAKES ME UNHAPPY.

I don't want a fistfight either, but if you're going to post your opinion in a public forum, prepare to defend it against people who might challenge it.
Starscream
Conquest is made from the ashes of one's enemies.
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Just pay for the damn music, cheapskates. There are numerous ways to do so legally over the web. If you're worried about DRM, use a service like amazon mp3 or go buy a CD and rip it yourself. Pirating music is almost as bad as outright shoplifting and I have no idea why it is socially acceptable.
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
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I just bought an album off Amazon today. Their album downloader is quite slick.

For the record, pirating music is no better than stealing. Criminals.
I'm a big stickler for having the actual, physical CD when it comes to my music. I'm not sure why, I just like the actual tangibility, and of course it looks impressive to have a shitload of CDs organized in a CD book in the car. However, the advent of plugging in your iPod in your car has made that relatively obsolete, but still!
owning a CD is great. I don't care if people buy or don't buy. I rarely buy. But I can say, as a fellow musician, artists aren't trying to sell their CD, they're trying to make it heard by people. Artists, if they're making a living off of it, will make it from merchandise and live shows. They make money off of albums, but not much compared to what their label makes. The artists WANT you to share their music. The record companies don't.

We're in an era of digital music, where owning the physical copy is merely a novelty these days. The record companies and the RIAA are refusing to keep up with the tide change, and their scare tactics have proven to be useless. Because of their stubbornness, they are going to crumble.

Only a matter of time before everyone can get any song anywhere anytime. No sense in buying the music.

Of course, if the artist you like is on an independent label, then buying the music is a good way to support them.
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post=88925
like women and black people voting. It was totally illegal because it was wrong.

Geez man you cannot be this naive.
That's an example that has nothing to do with this subject. I agree, those laws were according to the motives of the lawmakers at the time, and they were wrong for doing that. However, this is STEALING we're talking about, not division based on race. The fact that stealing is illegal has nothing to do with discrimination, hate, or malice. It's done to keep the peace and prevent conflict.

I can't exactly agree with stealing, cause technically using grooveshark you're listening to others stolen tracks, not stealing them yourself.

When I said I used it, I meant like twice.

Yeah, I like owning a physical copy of something way better than something digital, but some things are hard to get in the small area I live in. I'm not like a super advocate for pirating though.
if you ask me, it's like a user-based all-request radio station. can you download and own the tracks using this software? if not, then there is, morally, nothing at all wrong with it.
Masamune
A guy walks into a bar and his alcoholism is destroying his family.
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I'm going to be honest here, roughly 1/5 of the music I listen to I actually own CDs of. That being said, I know it's wrong and it's stealing but it's just so god damn convenient.




If anyone could find a copy of these two albums for sale I would buy them no questions asked.
Seems like an online radio service, except instead of "commercial radio" its "community radio". Are you able to download the music?

But then I've never used it. I like the "recommendation" feature it advertises though. I'm in need of some new tunes.
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
11363
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owning a CD is great. I don't care if people buy or don't buy. I rarely buy. But I can say, as a fellow musician, artists aren't trying to sell their CD, they're trying to make it heard by people. Artists, if they're making a living off of it, will make it from merchandise and live shows. They make money off of albums, but not much compared to what their label makes. The artists WANT you to share their music. The record companies don't.

We're in an era of digital music, where owning the physical copy is merely a novelty these days. The record companies and the RIAA are refusing to keep up with the tide change, and their scare tactics have proven to be useless. Because of their stubbornness, they are going to crumble.

Only a matter of time before everyone can get any song anywhere anytime. No sense in buying the music.

Of course, if the artist you like is on an independent label, then buying the music is a good way to support them.

I love owning a CD, but as you said it's more novelty than anything. My favorite was NIN's latest album stuff, where you could buy a deluxe edition. Which I did in a heartbeat.
I agree that stealing music is wrong, but when I could take music out of my budget, it was hard to resist.

I own over 400 CDs, but those are all in Canada. I only own about 30 in Japan.
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