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Erave
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CloseWhile, I see where you're coming from with all submissions member based, I think having staff reviews helps get games that might not get as much attention from normal folks to get some good feedback. You got lots of smart people here like Brickroad, Forever, Wip and such... it'd be nice to get some good reviews and announcments on these reviews as a way to bring attention to the games that are gonna get dusty because they are lost in the sea of games.
Just an idea.
Just an idea.
True, I do think that the creators and mods of such a website as this should take it upon themselves to do reviewing; I'd even join the staff as "just a reviewer", actually. It'll be a huge responsiblity running this site the next 2 years, the staff should know what's on it.
Mewd
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I don't think there should be site staff devoted to reviewing games. If they don't enjoy writing up evaluations of every game they try, than there's certainly no point in distracting them from more pressing duties they can attend to. If they DO enjoy it, they're gonna review games even if they don't 'have' to. There's no way that the staff is going to be able to play through every single game that gets fed through here.
Having a 'Spot Light' to shine on interesting games has its appeal, I'll admit. You can maybe acknowledge people who write insightful and useful reviews by giving them the ability to spotlight exceptional games, but having a whole staff regiment devoted to reviewing games just seems to deflate the value of reviews from 'non-staff.'
Having a 'Spot Light' to shine on interesting games has its appeal, I'll admit. You can maybe acknowledge people who write insightful and useful reviews by giving them the ability to spotlight exceptional games, but having a whole staff regiment devoted to reviewing games just seems to deflate the value of reviews from 'non-staff.'
At this point, I'm fairly against having any sort of staff that has a "job" of writing reviews. There are plenty of people capable of writing reviews that can easily submit their own.
james: Nothing is stopping you from writing reviews now. You don't need a "job" to contribute to this site.
james: Nothing is stopping you from writing reviews now. You don't need a "job" to contribute to this site.
Tri-tail
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Most of the time I didn't read non-staff reviews on websites because I wasn't "assured" of their quality. Because someone actually works for the site I'm more inclined to believe that they don't just post "this game sux cuz it uses alex". It's an assurance of quality thing, to me, and provides an easy way to decide if something is worth my interest if I'm on the fence or not because I've read said person's reviews before.
author=Tri-tail link=topic=48.msg638#msg638 date=1181919021Every single review on this site gets passed through moderation. You'll never see a review like that.
Most of the time I didn't read non-staff reviews on websites because I wasn't "assured" of their quality. Because someone actually works for the site I'm more inclined to believe that they don't just post "this game sux cuz it uses alex". It's an assurance of quality thing, to me, and provides an easy way to decide if something is worth my interest if I'm on the fence or not because I've read said person's reviews before.
The Real Brickroad
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author=WIP link=topic=48.msg639#msg639 date=1181919305
Every single review on this site gets passed through moderation. You'll never see a review like that.
Provably false!
Tri-tail
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author=WIP link=topic=48.msg639#msg639 date=1181919305Oh okay nevermind. We should probably bribe some dedicated reviewer to do a lot of reviews for the site. Still need a standard "review to read", here. Can iishenron write complete sentences and add numbers together?author=Tri-tail link=topic=48.msg638#msg638 date=1181919021Every single review on this site gets passed through moderation. You'll never see a review like that.
Most of the time I didn't read non-staff reviews on websites because I wasn't "assured" of their quality. Because someone actually works for the site I'm more inclined to believe that they don't just post "this game sux cuz it uses alex". It's an assurance of quality thing, to me, and provides an easy way to decide if something is worth my interest if I'm on the fence or not because I've read said person's reviews before.
Erave
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author=WIP link=topic=48.msg628#msg628 date=1181893578
At this point, I'm fairly against having any sort of staff that has a "job" of writing reviews. There are plenty of people capable of writing reviews that can easily submit their own.
james: Nothing is stopping you from writing reviews now. You don't need a "job" to contribute to this site.
See I agree with this too. But sometimes some games will just fly under the radar unless someone says, ok you review these games... and so on...
But I mean I guess that's the author's job to promote. I'm gonna try to submit as mucha s time allows me, because I'd really like to see this site grow.
The Real Brickroad
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author=Erave link=topic=48.msg651#msg651 date=1181928026
But I mean I guess that's the author's job to promote. I'm gonna try to submit as mucha s time allows me, because I'd really like to see this site grow.
There's nothing wrong with PMing someone asking for a review. I don't know where I'm at on the idea of staff reviews. I know I don't review every game I play, and I wouldn't want the obligation. Iishenron and RPG-Advocate don't review games anymore, even though they used to review EVERYTHING.
Erave
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I suppose so, but personally I probably wouldn't do that.
I brought this up, because I thought that was one aspect that GW's mainsite (when it still updated) did well. Had weekly reviews.
I brought this up, because I thought that was one aspect that GW's mainsite (when it still updated) did well. Had weekly reviews.
I've always been on the side of having a merit system that users dish out for things they like and demerit things that aren't helpful. Then you can point to the reviews that really help games. And it emphasizes putting actual effort into reviews. This'll probably be the next thread I post about.
Shadowtext
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author=Forever An Ill Fate link=topic=48.msg669#msg669 date=1181932834The problem is that when I see merit systems, I too often see people putting way too much stock in them. I'd be really careful implementing one if I were you.
I've always been on the side of having a merit system that users dish out for things they like and demerit things that aren't helpful. Then you can point to the reviews that really help games. And it emphasizes putting actual effort into reviews. This'll probably be the next thread I post about.
Erave
1444
author=Forever An Ill Fate link=topic=48.msg669#msg669 date=1181932834
I've always been on the side of having a merit system that users dish out for things they like and demerit things that aren't helpful. Then you can point to the reviews that really help games. And it emphasizes putting actual effort into reviews. This'll probably be the next thread I post about.
Well don't the reviews go through Adminstrative review before they are assigned anyway? So if the review is totally unhelpful you could just toss and send the person a note saying they need to improve the review before you can add it.
The Real Brickroad
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author=Erave link=topic=48.msg673#msg673 date=1181933133
Well don't the reviews go through Adminstrative review before they are assigned anyway? So if the review is totally unhelpful you could just toss and send the person a note saying they need to improve the review before you can add it.
I wrote a few unhelpful one-word reviews and WIP still accepted them. But then, WIP is a notorious drunk.
Well, I don't want to deny people's initial comments on a game, though. Which is why I feel there needs to be more than a "Reviews" section. There should be a place to comment on the game, as well.
I still attest to Anime Grapevine, that had a merit system. The site was great (back in the day) and the system really encouraged users, I felt.
Each admin has different taste, but for me, I'll let even initial impressions slide as a review. There's nothing stopping people from submitting a second review.
I still attest to Anime Grapevine, that had a merit system. The site was great (back in the day) and the system really encouraged users, I felt.
Each admin has different taste, but for me, I'll let even initial impressions slide as a review. There's nothing stopping people from submitting a second review.
The Real Brickroad
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author=Forever An Ill Fate link=topic=48.msg684#msg684 date=1181939108
Each admin has different taste, but for me, I'll let even initial impressions slide as a review. There's nothing stopping people from submitting a second review.
You denied my second Push! review. =(
