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Closepost=100576post=100566If it'll make you guys happy, I swear I will do this thing right at some point.
I'd like it if someone genuine did video reviews on YouTube. Also a plus would be if they knew how to use a mic.
Finally, my work as a sound engineer comes in handy. Damn.
holy shit this WILL make me get a playable demo of my game out post haste
post=100576post=100566If it'll make you guys happy, I swear I will do this thing right at some point.
I'd like it if someone genuine did video reviews on YouTube. Also a plus would be if they knew how to use a mic.
Finally, my work as a sound engineer comes in handy. Damn.
Yes.
If I didnt start this thread, this guy wouldn't have had a reason to do this.
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Also, for the record. . I figured I'd let you guys bitch for two more pages before I said this but..
I said, you may not use commercial characters. Characters from places like Squaresoft or things of that nature. I never said you may not use commercial music or sound effects. Infact if you saw the preshow where I explained the whole thing this wouldn't be too much of an issue. Things that cant be excepted are...
Final Fantasy remakes.. (or any commercial remakes)
Any commercial characters..
and that'll be it.
I understand your hostility.. but, seriously.. you guys are acting like I chopped your dicks off. Be reasonable, why should I care about Final Fantasy XP when I already play those types of games on the playstation. Learn2imagination.
AznChipmunk
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That's not what you said in your first post.
Graphics and etc. that do not belong to any commercial groups.
post=100307
You can only submit original games with graphics, and etc that do not belong to any commercial groups.
Graphics and etc. that do not belong to any commercial groups.
Nightblade
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post=100631post=100576Yes.post=100566If it'll make you guys happy, I swear I will do this thing right at some point.
I'd like it if someone genuine did video reviews on YouTube. Also a plus would be if they knew how to use a mic.
Finally, my work as a sound engineer comes in handy. Damn.
If I didnt start this thread, this guy wouldn't have had a reason to do this.
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Also, for the record. . I figured I'd let you guys bitch for two more pages before I said this but..
I said, you may not use commercial characters. Characters from places like Squaresoft or things of that nature. I never said you may not use commercial music or sound effects. Infact if you saw the preshow where I explained the whole thing this wouldn't be too much of an issue. Things that cant be excepted are...
Final Fantasy remakes.. (or any commercial remakes)
Any commercial characters..
and that'll be it.
I understand your hostility.. but, seriously.. you guys are acting like I chopped your dicks off. Be reasonable, why should I care about Final Fantasy XP when I already play those types of games on the playstation. Learn2imagination.
At this juncture, there are only two things left to be said.
1 - No
2 - Get out
That's not what you said in your first post.
I'm surprised he didn't go back an edit that out... Oh wait, no I'm not actually.
Thats what I said in my first video... and I quote.
Posted on "August 27, 2009"
If that doesn't prove anything to you..
Posted 1 month ago in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDEieGP7og
Greetings Guys.
Rose here and I'm usually the one responding to your replies through the video. I've an exciting announcement for subscribers. As the title states I'm starting a review show in which will cover ONLY indie games by indie game makers.
RM, GM, MMF2, and so on.
With this news as you can guess you guys will be candidates for reviews by great reviewers.. see the links.
Here is the deal. You can only submit original games with graphics, and etc that do not belong to any commercial groups. I have to decline/reject any applications that'll get me sued.. (There are some exceptions. However, one thing is for sure. You may not use characters from commercial games!)
Any legal obstacles will screw me royally. So make sure your resources are royalty free. Those are the breaks.
They will do REVIEWS of your game on the LovelesEntertainment Channel which will be in the same format as a small review show. While at the same time having Let's plays uploaded to their youtube channels.
If you forgot.. these are the links. Be sure to subscribe.
These reviewers will play YOUR ORIGINAL game and rate them on a scale of 1 - 5. Our viewers will then be given the option of turning in independent ratings which will be posted at the end of every show. Giving YOU more exposure than even the most prosperous (and sucky) RM site.. and effectively giving your game more of a unbiased crowd.
There are also interactive aspects to this show as well. You will be given a chance to submit video responses advertising your game, asking for a review to be done, or asking to do spotlight reviews which will be put at the end of the show.
If you have other talents other than game making but, relates to game making you can be sponsored here too. We'll display your creation like so and at the end of the show we will put a link with your contact information.. like so..
This show will in all respects resemble a normal television show.. albeit on youtube... about 5-10 minutes long... and done by youtube savvy reviewers.
This will be an entertaining and savvy way to get your game known, rated, and explained to an unbaised audience.
If you are interested there is only one thing to do.
Post your gameplay video as a video response to THIS video. That is all.
Since we have only 3 reviewers at the moment, we will only review 3 games.
Good luck.
Posted on "August 27, 2009"
If that doesn't prove anything to you..
RTDArtist posted:
What do you mean by some exceptions?? I see the rules changed a bit but i understand copyrighted characters.
LovelesEntertainment posted:
Exceptions meaning -
Music, sound fx ,animations
You'll have to ask me if it's cool to use a resource otherwise.?
Posted 1 month ago in http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKDEieGP7og
Nightblade
2723
So... what exactly? You're so incompetent that you cannot even get your own rules straight? Oh, my apologies -
1 - No
2 - Get out
AznChipmunk
4613
Uh. Okay. Well, all I can say is, way to post information here that contradicts what you say elsewhere. Good job. Really.
post=100584post=100577Got a decent mic? If so, you can help.post=100576Ooh! Please, do! And let the community know, so I can sign uppost=100566If it'll make you guys happy, I swear I will do this thing right at some point.
I'd like it if someone genuine did video reviews on YouTube. Also a plus would be if they knew how to use a mic.
Finally, my work as a sound engineer comes in handy. Damn.and sink it like all the other review threads!
Sorry, I got nothin'. I meant I'd be signing up to get my game reviewed, which has proven an instant death to all but two review threads.
post=100648
Uh. Okay. Well, all I can say is, way to post information here that contradicts what you say elsewhere. Good job. Really.
Actually I didn't. I referred you to the preshow that explains everything. It's YOUR fault you didn't read that.
Since I'm an ass I let you guys go on venting how you are so persecuted and I dont care about black people or your rpg maker games.
Right now, you guys have been the douchiest forums I've posted this stuff on. . and trust me I posted it on many forums and I even had someone post it on rmxp.org. . when you're more douche than rmxp.org that's saying something.
I mean this whole thing could have easily been resolved if you asked me more about what I'm trying to do... you know.. because I'm reading the posts here and it may have been a good idea instead of bitching about me hating all things rpg maker..
Our points, however roughly stated, and I say this as a person from the sidelines as I'm not really 'in' on any of the history involved, are:
1. You and your reviewers have a poor reputation here
2. You've offered a service that few qualify for and doesn't seem worth much
3. You're aspiring to a higher degree of excellence than you actually are
That's all I can construe from the pages of angry NightBlade posts and everyone else's comments. That said, I think you have a good idea, but need a better approach. YouTube videos of indie games is a great idea! Look at all the "Let's Play " videos out there! I suppose the biggest problem you've run into here (besides the reputation thing) is that you insist on not covering games with commercial material. Honestly, getting sued by a major corporation for making a video about a game that used a commercial character is the least of your worries. You're too small time for them to even give half a care. Even if they were concerned, they'd be more likely to go after the person that made the game than you!
Maybe if you were a more organized and professionally reputed video review service, you'd need to worry about making waves. But for an early phase like this, be realistic. The scale isn't nearly large enough for the concerns you're expressing.
1. You and your reviewers have a poor reputation here
2. You've offered a service that few qualify for and doesn't seem worth much
3. You're aspiring to a higher degree of excellence than you actually are
That's all I can construe from the pages of angry NightBlade posts and everyone else's comments. That said, I think you have a good idea, but need a better approach. YouTube videos of indie games is a great idea! Look at all the "Let's Play " videos out there! I suppose the biggest problem you've run into here (besides the reputation thing) is that you insist on not covering games with commercial material. Honestly, getting sued by a major corporation for making a video about a game that used a commercial character is the least of your worries. You're too small time for them to even give half a care. Even if they were concerned, they'd be more likely to go after the person that made the game than you!
Maybe if you were a more organized and professionally reputed video review service, you'd need to worry about making waves. But for an early phase like this, be realistic. The scale isn't nearly large enough for the concerns you're expressing.
AznChipmunk
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post=100651post=100648Actually I didn't. I referred you to the preshow that explains everything. It's YOUR fault you didn't read that.
Uh. Okay. Well, all I can say is, way to post information here that contradicts what you say elsewhere. Good job. Really.
Especially when you specifically stated in your first post about graphics from commercial games. And then vaguely stated "etc." from commercial games.
Well, we'll see love.
In one month I have built quite a fanbase just on word of mouth.. 600 friends and 167 subscribers isn't something to sneeze at in regards to rpg maker games. Not to mention you're judging a small segment. Of course, the full show will be 30 minutes long after the reviewers get finished playing the games completely.
I really could careless about reviewing rm games anymore, however I have been challenged. I'll release one episode of the IGRS a month. Of course, you're free to use whatever means you wish to counter my channel and even give me some competition because, my work is not much as you said (even though I became this popular with just videos of my games and stuff like that). You are free to advertise to people that you are going to open a youtube channel with reviews at least once a month.. that is professional quality. Which is why I'm taking so long. I'm working on segment transitions, green screen graphics, original music, lower third, interviews with the makers of the game.. and things like that.
I did listen to a few of RM's podcasts.. *yawn* and if you guys put out anything that is better than my test segment of World Outside (Which even I admitted it was bad in the comment section in the very video) I'll donate 30 dollars to a charity of your choice. I'll be waiting.. you have until the end of January to wipe the smug smile off of my face. I'll tell you this.. by April of next year I'll have a IGRS magazine out so if you want to release one before I get the name published.. be my guest.
Do you want to know what happened to rmxp.org's attempt to give me competition?
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:GE2m9wrgEowJ:www.hbgames.org/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D6%26p%3D671923+RPGM+reviews&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://www.youtube.com/user/RPGMReviews
Laughable view counts, sucky videos, and account closed. You better have the fucking dedication to keep your channel open.
In one month I have built quite a fanbase just on word of mouth.. 600 friends and 167 subscribers isn't something to sneeze at in regards to rpg maker games. Not to mention you're judging a small segment. Of course, the full show will be 30 minutes long after the reviewers get finished playing the games completely.
I really could careless about reviewing rm games anymore, however I have been challenged. I'll release one episode of the IGRS a month. Of course, you're free to use whatever means you wish to counter my channel and even give me some competition because, my work is not much as you said (even though I became this popular with just videos of my games and stuff like that). You are free to advertise to people that you are going to open a youtube channel with reviews at least once a month.. that is professional quality. Which is why I'm taking so long. I'm working on segment transitions, green screen graphics, original music, lower third, interviews with the makers of the game.. and things like that.
I did listen to a few of RM's podcasts.. *yawn* and if you guys put out anything that is better than my test segment of World Outside (Which even I admitted it was bad in the comment section in the very video) I'll donate 30 dollars to a charity of your choice. I'll be waiting.. you have until the end of January to wipe the smug smile off of my face. I'll tell you this.. by April of next year I'll have a IGRS magazine out so if you want to release one before I get the name published.. be my guest.
Do you want to know what happened to rmxp.org's attempt to give me competition?
http://74.125.113.132/search?q=cache:GE2m9wrgEowJ:www.hbgames.org/forums/viewtopic.php%3Ff%3D6%26p%3D671923+RPGM+reviews&cd=3&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=firefox-a
http://www.youtube.com/user/RPGMReviews
Laughable view counts, sucky videos, and account closed. You better have the fucking dedication to keep your channel open.
I'm beginning to see why people get sick of your attitude.
Sorry, but 167 is not a big number. It is a comparatively small number. Even a thousand subscribers would not be all that big time. It's a delusion of grandeur...you aren't that big at all!
Also, our podcasts were never intended to be professional quality. If anything, they were supposed to be a fun way to get feedback and talk about the goings-on in the community. Comparing your productions to them isn't fair, as they aren't created with the same intentions.
I can respect the amount of effort you say you're willing to put into these video reviews of yours, but with an attitude like that, you're never going to make any headway here. I'd say quit while you're ahead, but you're already way, way, waaaay behind. Give up on us. Come back when you're half as impressive as you think you are.
Sorry, but 167 is not a big number. It is a comparatively small number. Even a thousand subscribers would not be all that big time. It's a delusion of grandeur...you aren't that big at all!
Also, our podcasts were never intended to be professional quality. If anything, they were supposed to be a fun way to get feedback and talk about the goings-on in the community. Comparing your productions to them isn't fair, as they aren't created with the same intentions.
I can respect the amount of effort you say you're willing to put into these video reviews of yours, but with an attitude like that, you're never going to make any headway here. I'd say quit while you're ahead, but you're already way, way, waaaay behind. Give up on us. Come back when you're half as impressive as you think you are.
My attitude? I didn't show any attitude until now, sir.
I'm sort of sick of sour grapes here. Put up or shut up. If you think I'm a sucky person for my way of having fun, then do something better and fucking show me. 167 is a huge number based on my genre. I had even got honors for the most responded in a day for gaming. . on youtube. Yep, thats gaming period. My channel had a shining moment of glory. . what I'm going for next is the first rpg maker user that becomes a youtube partner.. It's just a matter of time until that happens, love. I have patience and drive, what do you have? Cynicism?
Cynicism doesn't do shit in life but allows you to be angry at other people for trying their hardest to succeed.. you guys are just that.. an obstacle that wants me to be as unsuccessful as yourselves. Yes, the same types that never finishes a project, that says "I'll do this" and then gives up two seconds later.
If you don't think that you are that way.. I have a few questions for you. How many of you finished a project? Is the project longer than 20 hours? How long did you work on it? Does the game involve poses for specific situations or is it stiff?
If that is too much for you .. I'll just say this. Which do you think this site has more of .. games that will never be finished or games that are actually finished? I could bet money that the majority of people here would have submitted an unfinished demo to be reviewed even if it wasn't me.. and even if it was someone who was more liked in the community.. but you guys have the balls to tell me to give up when I want to finish a project.. imbeciles.
I'm sort of sick of sour grapes here. Put up or shut up. If you think I'm a sucky person for my way of having fun, then do something better and fucking show me. 167 is a huge number based on my genre. I had even got honors for the most responded in a day for gaming. . on youtube. Yep, thats gaming period. My channel had a shining moment of glory. . what I'm going for next is the first rpg maker user that becomes a youtube partner.. It's just a matter of time until that happens, love. I have patience and drive, what do you have? Cynicism?
Cynicism doesn't do shit in life but allows you to be angry at other people for trying their hardest to succeed.. you guys are just that.. an obstacle that wants me to be as unsuccessful as yourselves. Yes, the same types that never finishes a project, that says "I'll do this" and then gives up two seconds later.
If you don't think that you are that way.. I have a few questions for you. How many of you finished a project? Is the project longer than 20 hours? How long did you work on it? Does the game involve poses for specific situations or is it stiff?
If that is too much for you .. I'll just say this. Which do you think this site has more of .. games that will never be finished or games that are actually finished? I could bet money that the majority of people here would have submitted an unfinished demo to be reviewed even if it wasn't me.. and even if it was someone who was more liked in the community.. but you guys have the balls to tell me to give up when I want to finish a project.. imbeciles.
