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i'm not sure what you want us to discuss? everyone with half a brain knows about cultural differences, but that doesn't excuse stereotyping - if that's what you're getting at.
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i'm not sure what you want us to discuss? everyone with half a brain knows about cultural differences, but that doesn't excuse stereotyping - if that's what you're getting at.

I just had a really enlightening discussion on this very same topic with some people on Facebook who posted this article so I figured that discussion was indeed possible. At the very least its an interesting article I wanted to share.

Americans LOVE homogenizing themselves into groups (especially outside of cities) and then hating on groups that are different than they are.

Nope this never happens anywhere else in the world nope never. Also observing and celebrating differences isn't hate so I don't know what the heck you're talking about.

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Read my edit, quickdraw

big ol' edit: I am going to take this time to point out how frequently you make racial observations (not a bad thing) Mog but how you seem to be missing the fact that the way the US views racial differences and the way the rest of the civilized world views racial differences is completely different. Congrats on having such an insular world view

Race is fun. Or rather, since they're often linked, culture is fun. Observing different shit that cultures do is even more fun.

Wait where did I even imply that "yes white people are SUPPOSED to like this goddamit"

I don't know where you are getting this impression but I don't like being accused of being a racist? Please elaborate?

thanks for being a horrible racist Mog

thanks for this. i forgot the part where i burned crosses and said 'stick to your own kind we don't like your kind 'round here'
This article mostly tells me what I've already known from 23 years of observation and traveling; people are generally similar in core values, but when it comes to culture, people can be totally different.

Taken out of context, this quote sounds like you are in no way supporting stereotyping. Except... you posted a link to a list of things that certain races of people are supposed to be inclined to liking immediately after it. Which is a pretty obvious implication that the "cultural differences" you noted are how white folks like van halen and black folks all think they are cool.

I, as a white person, don't like but a few super generic things on any of those lists and don't like to be ever be lumped in with any group of people based on race, not ever. Because lumping people together based on race=racism. If you are lending any credence to anything that lumps people together based on race, you are supporting racism. I'm not saying racial stereotyping isn't often based on things that are true for a majority of the people in any given group, but that's exactly the problem with racial stereotyping, isn't it?

edit: example so you understand my beef with this shit: I meet 20 black people who are lazy. These are all the black people I have met. 100% of the black people I have met are lazy. I withhold making any assumptions. I meet another ten black people. They are all lazy. Finally, I begin to assume all black people are lazy. I meet another black person. He isn't lazy. I assume he is, because he's black. From this point on, no matter how hard this guy works, he will always exist as an anomaly to my belief that black people are lazy. "Well, not all of them," I'll say, "But most of them." I'll pat myself on the back for not being a racist, because I'm friends with this one black guy who's not lazy. I'm willing to accept that not all black people are lazy.

I SHOULDN'T ASSUME BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY. They aren't lazy because they're black, damnit, they just happen to be lazy and black. DON'T YOU GET IT?
Yellow Magic
Could I BE any more Chandler Bing from Friends (TM)?
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That's a good idea. My ethnicity's right between Indian and Middle Eastern.

2/50 White Male
9/50 Black Male
9/50 Hispanic Male
12/50 Asian Male
10/50 Indian Male
19/50 Middle Eastern Male
6/50 Pacific Islander

Yikes (I'd love to show this to everyone who thinks I'm 'whitewashed'...)
big ol' edit: I am going to take this time to point out how frequently you make racial observations (not a bad thing) Mog but how you seem to be missing the fact that the way the US views racial differences and the way the rest of the civilized world views racial differences is completely different. Congrats on having such an insular world view

Okay I'm going to tackle this from a different angle

Growing up in my city, not counting when I lived in NYC, I live in a city (Pittsburgh, and keep in mind that its a relatively large city here) where it's still very much of a WHITE PEOPLE DO THIS/BLACK PEOPLE DO THAT sort of thing. As a kid (and I recently discussed this with another Pittsburgher, who unlike me HAS gotten to travel all over the world and can definitely see this here as well), I never really understood stereotypes as it was, because as far as I saw, in Pittsburgh, most of them held true pretty steadfastly.

It wasn't until I got older and traveled myself (and Pittsburgh itself is starting to rapidly change and become more worldly in recent years) that *gasp* there are white people who enjoy cornbread and fried chicken! Black goths exist! Asian people who enjoy hip hop, what a discovery, whoa! This shit was literally unknown to me as a kid.

As a kid people enjoying things that 'other cultures' generally enjoyed was pretty alien to me because where I grew up, a white kid who liked hip hop was probably not very well recieved by his suburbite brethren (boy did that change, what, white suburban kids are the highest consumers of hip hop now?) and a black kid who enjoyed rock and Final Fantasy (me) was summarily made fun of and was told to pick up a basketball and that Tupac CD over there (and I like Tupac, but liking rock as well? WHOA. That's not very 'black'). Of course all of this changed now that I'm older and more well traveled, but of course my worldview is a bit colored by my upbringing and experiences.

All and all though, I'm a huge fan of cultures intermingling and learning from one another and all that, I'm not even entirely black myself and I know and cherish a lot of my Native American heritage. I dated (and am still close to) a Pacific Islander throughout high school and still remember the food and recipes of the stuff she made. My cousin married a white guy from Cincinatti and showed me stuff from his German heritage for a little while.

While I love and encourage cultural mish mashing, I also cherish the things that makes cultures different and distinct from one another, so I don't mind 'white people do this/black people do that' to a certain degree because that's what makes us all different and unique and all that shit. In no way its static or inherent or whatever.
mog read my edit

edit: stereotypes and cultural traits are two different things. Wearing a ceremonial headdress is different than being crafty or nepotistic or whatever
this is a nothing article. here are some things different loose / outright heterogenous racial groups from an insignificant percentage of american internet users from a particular website like. great job drawing social conclusions from that

i am a latino male
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mog read my edit

edit: stereotypes and cultural traits are two different things. Wearing a ceremonial headdress is different than being crafty or nepotistic or whatever

Good read; my post above I think serves as a viable response to that edit, though (I am not trying to debate your point however so please do not interpret it as such, we are discussing...like gentlemen)

I SHOULDN'T ASSUME BLACK PEOPLE ARE LAZY. They aren't lazy because they're black, damnit, they just happen to be lazy and black. DON'T YOU GET IT?

I never, ever argued otherwise. I have never tried to put forth any sort of statement that says 'black/white people do this BECAUSE they are black/white' There are a great number of factors why culture is attached to race or what color your skin is or what last name you have or what language you speak or where you're from or whatever the fuck but I don't think anyone outside of a splinter racist cult is going to argue that they're inherent or genetic or whatever.

Also where did I ever imply that black culture, for example, appreciating soul food was anything like someone saying that 'JEWS ARE GREEDY FROM THE WOMB'. Quite obviously a culture's appreciation for food, or dance, or a certain type of music or whatever, is cultural and that's it; a white guy raised in a black culture is as likely to appreciate anything culturally 'black' as any other black person, and vice-versa. There is no 'white gene' that activates a love for Tim McGraw or whatever.
WIP
I'm not comfortable with any idea that can't be expressed in the form of men's jewelry
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what the fuck have you guys turned this into

Anyway I read this yesterday and found it just as fascinating as the rest of the calculations OKC does.

EDIT: As a note, OKC is popular in Canada as well.
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what the fuck have you guys turned this into

Anyway I read this yesterday and found it just as fascinating as the rest of the calculations OKC does.

EDIT: As a note, OKC is popular in Canada as well.

Didn't know OKC was popular in Canada. Pretty cool!

edit: stereotypes and cultural traits are two different things. Wearing a ceremonial headdress is different than being crafty or nepotistic or whatever

I am unsure how the word 'stereotype' has crept into this topic but I don't like it at all and it wasn't a part of any point I was ever trying to discuss.

I am agreeing with WIP here; at the end of the day these are just research results from a certain site from a certain group of people which results may or may not relate to you personally. If it does, great, if it doesn't, great. You're not supposed to take it to heart. Also if you aren't a North American than this calculation largely does not apply to you.

Also Kaempfer has gotten the completely wrong impression/idea/response to this article and this topic in general so I'm not sure what to say. Pointing out that different races/cultures happen to like and appreciate different things is racist I guess.
Speaking of which I'm watching through old episodes of Chappelle's Show right now. The show is sometimes just silly and that's it, but Dave Chappelle is a genius at racial commentary and actually being funny while pointing out things/differences between culture and race.

Right now I am watching the Racial Draft skit! Using race/culture to discriminate, antagonize, and hate is a terrible thing and I'm sure its something a lot of us can relate to as far as being on the receiving end. I know I can. But race/culture as something to embrace, celebrate differences, and laugh at and pick apart sometimes is great.
according to this article i am pretty fucking white

maybe i should change my avatar
nah bro dont

seriously
I love fried chicken and watermelon and I AIN'T AFRAID TO SAY IT


That's the blackest thing about me and I cherish it with everything I have

arcan
Having a signature is too mainstream. I'm not part of your system!
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If you're trying to figure out if white dudes like something, put fucking in the middle, and say it out loud. If it sounds totally badass, white dudes probably love it.
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according to this article i am pretty fucking white

maybe i should change my avatar

yes you should
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I love fried chicken and watermelon and I AIN'T AFRAID TO SAY IT


That's the blackest thing about me and I cherish it with everything I have



I love both of those things as well! I'd eat that shit every day if it wouldn't end up killing me.
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Also if you aren't a North American than this calculation largely does not apply to you.
Yeah, my comparisons (abiove) are definitely skewed by the apparent "fact" that only latinos (in America) like good sports...


Hey, no one is trying to propose anything as fact here. :)
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