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Yeah I hate it when people talk about what they're going to do and then NEVER do it. That's why I do it then talk about it.
A lot of my ex gfs get on my case because I never talk about the future. I think about the future all the time, I just never bring it up. I'd rather do it, but I get dumped for having no future and no goals :-)
Funny thing is I end up accomplishing my goals.
The boss of my 2nd full time job would always TALK about everything, what he wanted us to do. Then he'd freak out when I didn't get his goals done. He'd want me to explain every single thing BEFORE I did it and I kept telling him, I'd rather just do the work.
Meanwhile, my original full time job that I've had for 11 years. That manager lets me do the work and not explain it BEFORE :-) Then I givea big long, probably too long report on everything I went through and what's great about what I did.
A lot of my ex gfs get on my case because I never talk about the future. I think about the future all the time, I just never bring it up. I'd rather do it, but I get dumped for having no future and no goals :-)
Funny thing is I end up accomplishing my goals.
The boss of my 2nd full time job would always TALK about everything, what he wanted us to do. Then he'd freak out when I didn't get his goals done. He'd want me to explain every single thing BEFORE I did it and I kept telling him, I'd rather just do the work.
Meanwhile, my original full time job that I've had for 11 years. That manager lets me do the work and not explain it BEFORE :-) Then I givea big long, probably too long report on everything I went through and what's great about what I did.
Woah. I need to watch more TED, even if that guy was only a mediocre speaker.
Anyway, I agree with this, despite it somewhat contradicting my topic on talking to people about stuff. There is , of course, a difference: sharing a sprite is not the same as saying "I'm going to have custom winking, saluting and farting animations for every NPC in my game because I'm making Fable 4."
It's hard not to share, though. :<
Anyway, I agree with this, despite it somewhat contradicting my topic on talking to people about stuff. There is , of course, a difference: sharing a sprite is not the same as saying "I'm going to have custom winking, saluting and farting animations for every NPC in my game because I'm making Fable 4."
It's hard not to share, though. :<
post=210541
Sounds like your ex-gf's and boss can go into game design here.
They would fit in, yeah. I know that I am hella guilty of being enthused about making a gamepage, getting a ton of subscribers, and then dropping the project. "Oh, Edifice? Yeah! Good game! Great reception! Only I never finished it."
Darken
3952
yeah the dude did not elaborate at all, he was just like "hey we did some tests, so shut the fuck up when you get a goal, peace" *leave stage* But really I think the lack of motivation to work towards a game or w/e really sets in when you simply talk about your game vision over and over and then you start to ask questions like: "why exactly am I doing this? what impact will this have on those around me? should I be doing another gam instead? etcetc. When really the answer to all of them is "just fucking do it"
this is why i don't want to make a gamepage for an unfinished game.
this is why i don't want to make a gamepage for an unfinished game.
Strangeluv
2787
Did not need to elaborate. The evidence (cancelled game profiles and GW 7.0 ) speaks for itself.
How do I make a spoiler tag to hide this long vent about my old boss and my exes that isn't pertinant to game making :-)
So sorry to vent here, but I was working 2 full time jobs at the same time. The second full time job was supposed to be a week, but I made this thing that made a company a lot of money, and will FOREVER make the money. So they hired me on. Then they went to phase 2 after 4 months.
The boss tried to downgrade my pay from $50 per hour to $15 an hour, when the kind of programming that I do is $40 an hour. My manager at my first job told me that I should be making $140 an hour. Basically I made software that will be in 1,000 buildings making $4,000 for them per year EACH.
When I asked for $20 an hour he pointed out all of my flaws and said that's the top of his scope and I'd need to give results. Which with programming there are bugs. Programming is easy, but its the bugs that take the longest time.
The boss is a jerk, he'd explain everything that he wants me to do, then freak out when I don't have it done instantly. Instead of doing it my way, everything had to be done his way which would turn a 10 hour job into 100. The smallest thing that he felt was small would take hours upon hours. Worse yet, the smallest thing would impact everything else.
If there was a bug he would say, "Can you explain to me why there's an error here?" Instead of just saying "there's an error here." Then I'd have to explain it to him what I think was wrong instead of just fixing it.
When I quit, he made me feel lik I was WRONG for giving up when they need me. Honestly his product is perfect as is, and he's already sold 10 kiosks with my software on them.
It was basically like an abusive relationship. He and I made a metal baby that was 6' tall 800 lbs kiosk that his company will forever make money off of. He treated me like shit and tried to pay me under the html guys despite the fact that the html guys are disposable and my code is like hand writing. The next guy needs to know my hand writing and the next guy probably can't do what I did in the first place :-)
I'm so sorry for venting. I really need to. My life hurts right now :-)
Speaking of venting. So with my ex gfs. They'd always plot out our future lives together. Like what our kids would be named. Where we'd live. Uggg... Now that I'm an adult. I get the same thing only now they CARE when I don't contribute. Now they figure well he's not contributing, he must not be that into me.
Women are in love with ideas more than actions. Hoobastank even wrote about it. Its not what you do, its what you say.
So sorry to vent here, but I was working 2 full time jobs at the same time. The second full time job was supposed to be a week, but I made this thing that made a company a lot of money, and will FOREVER make the money. So they hired me on. Then they went to phase 2 after 4 months.
The boss tried to downgrade my pay from $50 per hour to $15 an hour, when the kind of programming that I do is $40 an hour. My manager at my first job told me that I should be making $140 an hour. Basically I made software that will be in 1,000 buildings making $4,000 for them per year EACH.
When I asked for $20 an hour he pointed out all of my flaws and said that's the top of his scope and I'd need to give results. Which with programming there are bugs. Programming is easy, but its the bugs that take the longest time.
The boss is a jerk, he'd explain everything that he wants me to do, then freak out when I don't have it done instantly. Instead of doing it my way, everything had to be done his way which would turn a 10 hour job into 100. The smallest thing that he felt was small would take hours upon hours. Worse yet, the smallest thing would impact everything else.
If there was a bug he would say, "Can you explain to me why there's an error here?" Instead of just saying "there's an error here." Then I'd have to explain it to him what I think was wrong instead of just fixing it.
When I quit, he made me feel lik I was WRONG for giving up when they need me. Honestly his product is perfect as is, and he's already sold 10 kiosks with my software on them.
It was basically like an abusive relationship. He and I made a metal baby that was 6' tall 800 lbs kiosk that his company will forever make money off of. He treated me like shit and tried to pay me under the html guys despite the fact that the html guys are disposable and my code is like hand writing. The next guy needs to know my hand writing and the next guy probably can't do what I did in the first place :-)
I'm so sorry for venting. I really need to. My life hurts right now :-)
Speaking of venting. So with my ex gfs. They'd always plot out our future lives together. Like what our kids would be named. Where we'd live. Uggg... Now that I'm an adult. I get the same thing only now they CARE when I don't contribute. Now they figure well he's not contributing, he must not be that into me.
Women are in love with ideas more than actions. Hoobastank even wrote about it. Its not what you do, its what you say.
ok so more pertinant to game making :-)
I'd much rather just post my game update by update and say "hey people, here's my game now play it!!!"
But then I'd get tons of people with bugs when they'rejust stuff that I haven't finished yet :-)
I'd much rather just post my game update by update and say "hey people, here's my game now play it!!!"
But then I'd get tons of people with bugs when they'rejust stuff that I haven't finished yet :-)
Drakonais
2787
I'd never heard it explained quite so clearly. It definitely puts words to a feeling I've had before.
I don't know if the conclusion is "Don't talk about it," but rather "If you decide to talk about it, keep in mind you'll have to really work to pull it off."
I don't know if the conclusion is "Don't talk about it," but rather "If you decide to talk about it, keep in mind you'll have to really work to pull it off."
Strangeluv
2787
post=210552
How do I make a spoiler tag to hide this long vent about my old boss and my exes that isn't pertinant to game making :-)
So sorry to vent here, but I was working 2 full time jobs at the same time. The second full time job was supposed to be a week, but I made this thing that made a company a lot of money, and will FOREVER make the money. So they hired me on. Then they went to phase 2 after 4 months.
The boss tried to downgrade my pay from $50 per hour to $15 an hour, when the kind of programming that I do is $40 an hour. My manager at my first job told me that I should be making $140 an hour. Basically I made software that will be in 1,000 buildings making $4,000 for them per year EACH.
When I asked for $20 an hour he pointed out all of my flaws and said that's the top of his scope and I'd need to give results. Which with programming there are bugs. Programming is easy, but its the bugs that take the longest time.
The boss is a jerk, he'd explain everything that he wants me to do, then freak out when I don't have it done instantly. Instead of doing it my way, everything had to be done his way which would turn a 10 hour job into 100. The smallest thing that he felt was small would take hours upon hours. Worse yet, the smallest thing would impact everything else.
If there was a bug he would say, "Can you explain to me why there's an error here?" Instead of just saying "there's an error here." Then I'd have to explain it to him what I think was wrong instead of just fixing it.
When I quit, he made me feel lik I was WRONG for giving up when they need me. Honestly his product is perfect as is, and he's already sold 10 kiosks with my software on them.
It was basically like an abusive relationship. He and I made a metal baby that was 6' tall 800 lbs kiosk that his company will forever make money off of. He treated me like shit and tried to pay me under the html guys despite the fact that the html guys are disposable and my code is like hand writing. The next guy needs to know my hand writing and the next guy probably can't do what I did in the first place :-)
I'm so sorry for venting. I really need to. My life hurts right now :-)
Speaking of venting. So with my ex gfs. They'd always plot out our future lives together. Like what our kids would be named. Where we'd live. Uggg... Now that I'm an adult. I get the same thing only now they CARE when I don't contribute. Now they figure well he's not contributing, he must not be that into me.
Women are in love with ideas more than actions. Hoobastank even wrote about it. Its not what you do, its what you say.
Sorry =( Why don't you show your boss and your ex-girlfriends EpiQuest
I wish it were suicide booths :-) Its consierge kiosks. It looks like a giant ipod touch or a giant ipad.
I always called it the soul crushing machine. Its imposing and it has a presence. Like even if you're not looking at it, you know its there in the room with you. In fact phase 4 it will have a webcam and a microphone and live operators... inside of it :-)
The funny thing is once I was done with phase 1 I went to a convention center and found a kiosk that did the same thing and blew mine away :-) I loved it a lot more, plus I can tell that designers probably made it better in 1/10th the time that it took me to do exactly what they wanted me to do. They had a committee to tell me what to do, which I'm used to with my original job, but its my manager that meets with committees and not me :-)
As for showing exes Epiquest. I have other professional products and services that I've done and made. They're more impressive. But that's because I work, I don't talk about it :-)
No one in my family really knows what I do, because I don't talk about things.
Maybe that means I'm autistic. They can work for hours on end without talking or thinking about anything else.
I always called it the soul crushing machine. Its imposing and it has a presence. Like even if you're not looking at it, you know its there in the room with you. In fact phase 4 it will have a webcam and a microphone and live operators... inside of it :-)
The funny thing is once I was done with phase 1 I went to a convention center and found a kiosk that did the same thing and blew mine away :-) I loved it a lot more, plus I can tell that designers probably made it better in 1/10th the time that it took me to do exactly what they wanted me to do. They had a committee to tell me what to do, which I'm used to with my original job, but its my manager that meets with committees and not me :-)
As for showing exes Epiquest. I have other professional products and services that I've done and made. They're more impressive. But that's because I work, I don't talk about it :-)
No one in my family really knows what I do, because I don't talk about things.
Maybe that means I'm autistic. They can work for hours on end without talking or thinking about anything else.
Aw heck, I want some gratification. I'm gonna upload a beta for Epiquest 2, even though there's no story :-)
... edit, but that's kind of like throwing in the towel for a lil while.
... edit, but that's kind of like throwing in the towel for a lil while.
WolfCoder
3554
You can completely disregard most of the advice, and just share everything pertaining to video game creation (since that's what you're doing here, right?). Anyone with a sound stage and an audience thinks they're an effen professional.
The only thing you need to avoid doing here is making another Daikatana in this word of making games.
The only thing you need to avoid doing here is making another Daikatana in this word of making games.
SS, about your ex gfs, I think it's okay to relate your goals to ppl you're dating. They need to know you have at least 'some' ambition, otherwise it makes sense that they'd lose interest. It's the ONLY thing the parents wanna know when it comes time to meet them too lol
Shoot high and fail. :-)
Wives get on their husband's cases for saying. I'm gonna build you an X... and then 2 years go by and then the guy says I'm gonna build you a Y. Then the wife brings up X :-)
There's a Rollin's song. Don't talk about it. DO IT DO IT!!!
Wives get on their husband's cases for saying. I'm gonna build you an X... and then 2 years go by and then the guy says I'm gonna build you a Y. Then the wife brings up X :-)
There's a Rollin's song. Don't talk about it. DO IT DO IT!!!
Darken
3952
post=210575
You can completely disregard most of the advice, and just share everything pertaining to video game creation (since that's what you're doing here, right?)
its okay to share stuff i guess, just kind of annoying when someone has 2 games with the most blog posts filled with "u can now move up and down" with both of them not completed.
