OBJECTION! THERE AREN'T ANY ACE ATTORNEY THREADS!

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So Apollo Justice: Ace Attorney saw it's release last Tuesday and I just finished beating it on Saturday. Verdict: It was definitely fun, but playing it made me realize how much I love Trials and Tribulations. I'd place it above Justice for All and possibly the original Phoenix Wright, but below Trials and Tribulations.

My major problem with Apollo Justice is that there just wasn't any (visible) antagonist. Traditionally, the prosecutors served as a strong oppositional force. Klavier, the prosecutor in this game, was extremely laid-back and cooperative. I love the glimmerous fop, but he totally didn't do his job. One of the great things about having Phoenix and Edgeworth or Godot battling it out was that they were determined to find the truth by putting up the best fight they possibly could.

BIG SPOILERS:
I'm really divided on Phoenix's role in the game. On one hand, the part of me that played the past three games loves the plans he made, the huge changes he enacted, and the justice he helped serve to Kristoph.

On the other hand, the part of me that recognizes that this is supposed to be sort of a fresh start dislikes how much he overshadowed Apollo in the end. I'm all for cameos and recurring characters playing an important role here and there, but I'd like to see Apollo handle things on his own a little bit more. It always bugged me in the past games when Mia would come and save the day for Phoenix, when I didn't feel like I needed it. That was sort of how I felt at the end, though Phoenix certainly had a good reason to interject.

Still, the twists at the end were brilliant and I surprisingly didn't see the familial ones coming.



Anyway, here are some Apollo Justice pictures that I loved:


Large non-spoilery images:

I haven't played an Ace Attorney in ages. Might try out this one, sounds good enough.
author=demondestiny link=topic=731.msg9758#msg9758 date=1204106453
I haven't played an Ace Attorney.
I haven't played this either, but I heard that our friend Jack Thompson is a hidden character.

author=kentona link=topic=731.msg9764#msg9764 date=1204127260
I Suck!!!

You don't have to tell me twice. ;D

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Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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author=demondestiny link=topic=731.msg9784#msg9784 date=1204143124
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Stop talking like that. This isn't rmxp.org.

Anyway, I plan on picking this up after I finish the last case in Trials & Tibulations. I don't really like the new characters (although Emma is pretty awesome), though. Why can't it be, like, DICK GUMSHOE: ACE ATTORNEY???


Please?
author=Craze link=topic=731.msg9866#msg9866 date=1204283124
author=demondestiny link=topic=731.msg9784#msg9784 date=1204143124
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Stop talking like that. This isn't rmxp.org.

Anyway, I plan on picking this up after I finish the last case in Trials & Tibulations. I don't really like the new characters (although Emma is pretty awesome), though. Why can't it be, like, DICK GUMSHOE: ACE ATTORNEY???


Please?
That's crazy talk. No arguments that he's one of the best characters in the series, but Dick Gumshoe could never be an ace attorney, bub. It's all he can do to be a passable detective!

How about MILES EDGEWORTH: ACE ATTORNEY?
MATLOCK: ACE ATTORNEY

I rest my case.
Craze
why would i heal when i could equip a morningstar
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author=Shadowtext link=topic=731.msg9874#msg9874 date=1204300544
author=Craze link=topic=731.msg9866#msg9866 date=1204283124
author=demondestiny link=topic=731.msg9784#msg9784 date=1204143124
(please don't ban me)
Stop talking like that. This isn't rmxp.org.

Anyway, I plan on picking this up after I finish the last case in Trials & Tibulations. I don't really like the new characters (although Emma is pretty awesome), though. Why can't it be, like, DICK GUMSHOE: ACE ATTORNEY???


Please?
That's crazy talk. No arguments that he's one of the best characters in the series, but Dick Gumshoe could never be an ace attorney, bub. It's all he can do to be a passable detective!

How about MILES EDGEWORTH: ACE ATTORNEY?

I'm shunning you.

Also,
he was so bad during the Edgeworth-is-playable sequence. Like, seriously. It sucked (outside of the ZOMGYES factor).


^--Justice for All spoiler (as if you didn't aleady know)
author=Craze link=topic=731.msg9896#msg9896 date=1204332111
author=Shadowtext link=topic=731.msg9874#msg9874 date=1204300544
author=Craze link=topic=731.msg9866#msg9866 date=1204283124
author=demondestiny link=topic=731.msg9784#msg9784 date=1204143124
(please don't ban me)
Stop talking like that. This isn't rmxp.org.

Anyway, I plan on picking this up after I finish the last case in Trials & Tibulations. I don't really like the new characters (although Emma is pretty awesome), though. Why can't it be, like, DICK GUMSHOE: ACE ATTORNEY???


Please?
That's crazy talk. No arguments that he's one of the best characters in the series, but Dick Gumshoe could never be an ace attorney, bub. It's all he can do to be a passable detective!

How about MILES EDGEWORTH: ACE ATTORNEY?

I'm shunning you.

Also,
he was so bad during the Edgeworth-is-playable sequence. Like, seriously. It sucked (outside of the ZOMGYES factor).


^--Justice for All spoiler (as if you didn't aleady know)
Actually, I haven't finished JfA OR TaT. I'm halfway through both due to a tedious story involving miscommunication, staggered pay schedules, and mental illness.
I really don't like all the chanelling stuff. Yeah maybe in the first one it's okay but it gets quite ridiculous but I guess it's just a game...


Apollo Justice was a bit disappointing for me. As you said, PW played a large part in the story plot but I wanted it to be focused in on Apollo but I guess Capcom wanted continuity rather than something fresh. One thing I did like was the whole 3D inspection thing but to be honest, the ending was a bit naff.


What do you make of the chances of a second Apollo game? I reckon it's highly likely but I really want PW to be cast in the shadows and let Apollo take center stage. Gavin was pretty awesome though, much more tolerable than that German girl.
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