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CloseNot in particular, sir. A more denotative definition would be: "A prejudiced person who is intolerant of any opinions differing from his own."
On a side note, in a world of %50 percent divorce rates (vast majority of Western countries), if two consenting people want to love each other, more power to them.
In a world where child aren't care for adequately, if two people can provide them a warm and loving home with a shot at a good future, awesome!
On a side note, in a world of %50 percent divorce rates (vast majority of Western countries), if two consenting people want to love each other, more power to them.
In a world where child aren't care for adequately, if two people can provide them a warm and loving home with a shot at a good future, awesome!
maoville
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Well, i do find this quite disgusting but that could be because i am not that old. I do agree with demon that it is unnatural but i guess if this is what he wants then that is fine.
The thing about this, is that it's PRETTY natural. He's still a woman. Getting breasts removed and taking testosterone treatments doesn't automatically make you male.
Dude Demondestiny cool down my friend
Look, I will agree this is just freakin unnatural, it is don't call me a ignorant cuban, I don't care it is unnatural. Him having a baby is unnatural, getting a sex-change is still unnatural but still people do it. But what I don't get you want to be man! Men don't have babies. But that's his choice and to people who say "it's not unnatural", you are ignorant. Cause the definition of "unnatural" is:
Something that wasn't made by nature or done by nature
Changing gender is unnatural, wy because nature didn't plan it, nature made you a girl, you make yourself a boy. Nature didn't make man have babies, they made women.
But yet again it is his choice and his choice alone, and yes he will get bad publicity and you people know that and everyone just pelase cool down.
Look, I will agree this is just freakin unnatural, it is don't call me a ignorant cuban, I don't care it is unnatural. Him having a baby is unnatural, getting a sex-change is still unnatural but still people do it. But what I don't get you want to be man! Men don't have babies. But that's his choice and to people who say "it's not unnatural", you are ignorant. Cause the definition of "unnatural" is:
Something that wasn't made by nature or done by nature
Changing gender is unnatural, wy because nature didn't plan it, nature made you a girl, you make yourself a boy. Nature didn't make man have babies, they made women.
But yet again it is his choice and his choice alone, and yes he will get bad publicity and you people know that and everyone just pelase cool down.
Darken
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But that's his choice and to people who say "it's not unnatural", you are ignorant. Cause the definition of "unnatural" is:
Something that wasn't made by nature or done by nature
Spoiler: everything comes from nature. If your going say "LOLOLOL NATURE = NOT MADE BY HUMANS." Pretty much every child birth is regulated by humans using human-made drugs, therapy, etc. nowadays.
At first I thought this was about the hoax from China, but it appears I was thinking about something different.
I don't have anything against it. It may be socially awkward, but a lot of things are that should receive acceptance anyway.
A little biological fact- all human babies start out female in the womb, with female organs. Whether or not male reproductive organs surface later, and the female organs stop developing, is of course dependent on the Y and X chromosomes and various hormones present. Sometimes one or two of those factors can be altered, usually by substances consumed by the mother. What gender you are, physically, isn't as much of a black and white thing as people often think it is.
This, as Brandonabley and NoblemanNick pointed out, isn't really a case of a "man", biologically speaking, being pregnant anywho- since the individual in question was born a female.
Socially awkward, yes. Morally wrong or disgusting, no. These are all value judgments, however, and can not be proved by science in either direction.
Here comes some icky biological genital talk, so kiddies better think twice about reading.
...Although I can think of a situation where a "male pregnancy" would be possible. The female organs every baby starts off with, that I mentioned? Some children can be born, externally, looking like one gender and have sexual organs of the other. (Such as testes or ovaries, with the external features being only superficial). Or, they can have both where one simply didn't develop enough to cause any external physical changes, but is otherwise capable of preforming it's function. Although the possibility seems rather slim, I can imagine that an individual could be born with functioning, male external organs and have a developed womb on the inside with no external, female sex characteristics. Whether or not that organ in question would be able to do anything depends a lot on hormones, and that's tricky business.
Basically, your options aren't just male/female/hermaphrodite. There's in betweens. A lot of people probably aren't one "definite gender" and don't even know it.
I'm no doctor, but these are things professionals and textbooks have told me. I admit I take the above scenario as a slightly altered example from a medical TV show, however, so that should warn you as to how credible I am in this situation. I'm just trying to shed some useful information on the topic, as well as my own musings. Believe me at your own risk.
I don't have anything against it. It may be socially awkward, but a lot of things are that should receive acceptance anyway.
A little biological fact- all human babies start out female in the womb, with female organs. Whether or not male reproductive organs surface later, and the female organs stop developing, is of course dependent on the Y and X chromosomes and various hormones present. Sometimes one or two of those factors can be altered, usually by substances consumed by the mother. What gender you are, physically, isn't as much of a black and white thing as people often think it is.
This, as Brandonabley and NoblemanNick pointed out, isn't really a case of a "man", biologically speaking, being pregnant anywho- since the individual in question was born a female.
Socially awkward, yes. Morally wrong or disgusting, no. These are all value judgments, however, and can not be proved by science in either direction.
Here comes some icky biological genital talk, so kiddies better think twice about reading.
...Although I can think of a situation where a "male pregnancy" would be possible. The female organs every baby starts off with, that I mentioned? Some children can be born, externally, looking like one gender and have sexual organs of the other. (Such as testes or ovaries, with the external features being only superficial). Or, they can have both where one simply didn't develop enough to cause any external physical changes, but is otherwise capable of preforming it's function. Although the possibility seems rather slim, I can imagine that an individual could be born with functioning, male external organs and have a developed womb on the inside with no external, female sex characteristics. Whether or not that organ in question would be able to do anything depends a lot on hormones, and that's tricky business.
Basically, your options aren't just male/female/hermaphrodite. There's in betweens. A lot of people probably aren't one "definite gender" and don't even know it.
I'm no doctor, but these are things professionals and textbooks have told me. I admit I take the above scenario as a slightly altered example from a medical TV show, however, so that should warn you as to how credible I am in this situation. I'm just trying to shed some useful information on the topic, as well as my own musings. Believe me at your own risk.
myersguy
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wow, this is crazy. Also, by the way, after seeing this, my weird and twisted mind came up with something.
Now, picture this, you are a man, you go and store your sperm somewhere, get a sex change, come back, and use your own sperm to become pregnant. Have that child, and you have a real mini you!
This is assuming you can become pregnant after a male-female sex change, which as far as I know, you can't. Nonetheless, would this be considered incest?
Now, picture this, you are a man, you go and store your sperm somewhere, get a sex change, come back, and use your own sperm to become pregnant. Have that child, and you have a real mini you!
This is assuming you can become pregnant after a male-female sex change, which as far as I know, you can't. Nonetheless, would this be considered incest?
author=myersguy link=topic=841.msg11680#msg11680 date=1207703957
wow, this is crazy. Also, by the way, after seeing this, my weird and twisted mind came up with something.
Now, picture this, you are a man, you go and store your sperm somewhere, get a sex change, come back, and use your own sperm to become pregnant. Have that child, and you have a real mini you!
This is assuming you can become pregnant after a male-female sex change, which as far as I know, you can't. Nonetheless, would this be considered incest?
I don't think so. Assuming that an individual's body produces both egg and sperm cells, (Which would not be the case in the situation you describe, from my understanding) it still doesn't seem possible. The genetic defects present in children whose parents are as genetically different as cousins can sometimes be crippling- I can't imagine the odds of that child developing into a healthy adult.
Out of my own curiosity, I went and did some research on cloning, and it's an entirely different process. A single cell is "programmed" to develop into an entire organism- all of your cells contain all of your DNA, which makes this possible. So there are no forms of cloning that are the result of contact between two genetically identical sex cells- possibly, fertilization can't even happen under that circumstance.
I don't think incest is the word. Something close, though.
maladroithim
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author=Veridianne link=topic=841.msg11467#msg11467 date=1207293516
On a side note, in a world of %50 percent divorce rates (vast majority of Western countries), if two consenting people want to love each other, more power to them.
I just want to mention that this statistic is very misleading because for many people their first divorce is not their last. It is just as common to find someone who is on their fifth marriage as it is to find someone who has lived their entire lives in a single marriage. The people who remarry frequently (I am not implying this is unethical) greatly inflate the statistic.
author=myersguy link=topic=841.msg11680#msg11680 date=1207703957This would be considered asexual reproduction.
wow, this is crazy. Also, by the way, after seeing this, my weird and twisted mind came up with something.
Now, picture this, you are a man, you go and store your sperm somewhere, get a sex change, come back, and use your own sperm to become pregnant. Have that child, and you have a real mini you!
This is assuming you can become pregnant after a male-female sex change, which as far as I know, you can't. Nonetheless, would this be considered incest?
myersguy
292
...really, I definately did not learn this in 10th grade biology. Lol. Although thanks anyways.
Also, I feel bad for the kid.
Teacher: So, when did your mommy give birth to you
Child: Oh, my mommy didn't give birth to me, my daddy did!
also, the male will have to do the breast feeding, won't he. AWKWARD!
Also, I feel bad for the kid.
Teacher: So, when did your mommy give birth to you
Child: Oh, my mommy didn't give birth to me, my daddy did!
also, the male will have to do the breast feeding, won't he. AWKWARD!
demondestiny
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I don't really see why a teacher would ask something like that. It has nothing to do with her. Anyway, it would give him some good training on being a woman if he breast feeds the kid and so on.
maladroithim
1495
author=myersguy link=topic=841.msg11680#msg11680 date=1207703957
Now, picture this, you are a man, you go and store your sperm somewhere, get a sex change, come back, and use your own sperm to become pregnant. Have that child, and you have a real mini you!
This is not that unlike how an angler fish reproduces.
The females are the digusting ones that you think of when you picture the angler fish. The males, however, are small and eel-like. What the male does is bite the female on the outside (like on the stomach or whatever) and latch on, like a lamprey does. The male holds on for many months and eventually the female's skin grows into it and the male is incorporated into the female's body. Then, the male's organs are dissolved, including its brain and heart, and it's entire body with one exception -- the male testes remain. They are now, however, the female's testes, as the male fish has been destroyed. The female, which now has testes, reproduces with itself.
Curiously, one female angler can serve as a host for up to a dozen or more male anglers. Personally, I think it's probably the coolest reproduction method ever.
author=demondestiny link=topic=841.msg11766#msg11766 date=1207807293
it would give him some good training on being a woman if he breast feeds the kid and so on.
. . .
author=myersguy link=topic=841.msg11761#msg11761 date=1207804878
also, the male will have to do the breast feeding, won't he. AWKWARD!
The child will probably be fed with formula. There is a large movement of people who think formula is more nutritious than real breast milk (there is much research to support this). Whether or not that it is true that formula is better than real milk, it shows that it is probably not harmful to raise a child exclusively on formula.
